All Worlds Maintenance (Nov. 19)

[Neb]

Sam's Have A skill in parry

[Sho]

Sam's Have A skill in parry

Even with capped Parrying Skill + Merits, Parry wouldn't proc enough at this time to warrent tanking efficiency as SAM.

[Asrun]

Maintenance right after the fanfest, still gives me hope for new job announcements!

They confirmed no new jobs on the 1up.com interview. They stated instead of a new tank job they will modify a "average popular" job to tank instead... speculation has begun!

WAR tank go.. you obviously have Defender and Provoke and all that Enmity for a reason. Who cares if you get hit like a truck and can't cure yourself or evade enough to make sure you're not casting Utsusemi nonstop while you tank. ;D

When I first read "average popular", I immediately thought of WAR. I have a feeling there will be some new equipment or new job abilities/traits to allow them to blood tank. Defense Bonus II, III and IV?

[RKenshin]

Sam's Have A skill in parry

Even with capped Parrying Skill + Merits, Parry wouldn't proc enough at this time to warrent tanking efficiency as SAM.

Blahblahblah not true outside of some HNMs blahblahblah.

Not to say Parry is some saving glory with tanking on SAM, but just the idea of tanking on SAM isn't so impossible as most think. I don't even feel like debating it much anymore.

[Xanthe]

Sam's Have A skill in parry

Even with capped Parrying Skill + Merits, Parry wouldn't proc enough at this time to warrent tanking efficiency as SAM.

Blahblahblah not true outside of some HNMs blahblahblah.

Not to say Parry is some saving glory with tanking on SAM, but just the idea of tanking on SAM isn't so impossible as most think. I don't even feel like debating it much anymore.

Seconded. My SAM is nowhere near god status and my parrying is only 169, but I still notice the procs, and used wisely Seigan+Third Eye works wonders.

[Okuza]

Their goal seems to be to give people a new tank job to level up because all the tank players already have their PLD and/or NIN leveled up and aren't interested in leveling another one. They want more low level tanks. So, whatever job it is, it will be a job that most people have NOT leveled up yet.

I think that crosses WAR off the list. Every melee player has at least War37 already. No new tank population to be mined there. So, that points at one of the other jobs. Hard to say which job it will be, though. All kinds of jobs have the potential to be a good "tank". You could turn just about any of the melee jobs into a successful low level tank with the addition of a spike hate ability and a mitigation ability (defense or evasion).

[Sho]

Sam's Have A skill in parry

Even with capped Parrying Skill + Merits, Parry wouldn't proc enough at this time to warrent tanking efficiency as SAM.

Blahblahblah not true outside of some HNMs blahblahblah.

Not to say Parry is some saving glory with tanking on SAM, but just the idea of tanking on SAM isn't so impossible as most think. I don't even feel like debating it much anymore.

Seconded. My SAM is nowhere near god status and my parrying is only 169, but I still notice the procs, and used wisely Seigan+Third Eye works wonders.

Don't get me wrong about SAM tanking, lol. I've been trying to get at that for a minute-- I have just over 200 Parrying skill on SAM and still working on it. I'm just saying that it won't be as effective, even in clinch tanking, if you know what I mean. Also the problem of magic damage is there. Also would need to add something to SAM that would push the norm into wanting to use them as tanks and not DD.

[Keria]

THF tanks: you saw it here first.

all that enmity on relic hands was put there for a reason AMIRITE

so cunning SE, so cunning

[Asrun]

Their goal seems to be to give people a new tank job to level up because all the tank players already have their PLD and/or NIN leveled up and aren't interested in leveling another one. They want more low level tanks. So, whatever job it is, it will be a job that most people have NOT leveled up yet.

I think that crosses WAR off the list. Every melee player has at least War37 already. No new tank population to be mined there. So, that points at one of the other jobs. Hard to say which job it will be, though. All kinds of jobs have the potential to be a good "tank". You could turn just about any of the melee jobs into a successful low level tank with the addition of a spike hate ability and a mitigation ability (defense or evasion).

ibtlolDRG

[Damane]

new tank will be MNK

they will just alter guard the way shield was altered for pld and maybe up the procrate on counter voila you just got a tank (maybe with a few configurations here and there).

[Phla]

new tank will be MNK

they will just alter guard the way shield was altered for pld and maybe up the procrate on counter voila you just got a tank (maybe with a few configurations here and there).

that just sounds like making /war a more mp efficient sub (tho nin sub would still be best there)

[Intense]

Maybe also lowering Chakra recast in addition to Guard changes?

[cassiraa]

When I first read "average popular", I immediately thought of WAR. I have a feeling there will be some new equipment or new job abilities/traits to allow them to blood tank. Defense Bonus II, III and IV?

This is exactly what they need to tank. Barring the groundshattering addition of 40 defense;

Could give Samurai a 'Parrying Mastery' trait. Give them a trait not unlike the PLD Shield Mastery trait, combine it with Seigan. I could see them doing this.

TBH, no matter what they do to an existing job to make it more "tankey" the biggest hurdle will be telling the player base "Hey, you can tank with THIS!" and having people accept it over the already established working tanks. For that, it might be easier to make the whole new job.

Speaking of which, I think Fencer and Geomancer should be added, both as tanks.

[sunb1ind]

Whatever they manage to do, its going to be something minor that will only affect low level exp. They're not going to buff WAR to where they can take dmg like a PLD or evade like a NIN. Same for MNK, being the other likely choice; imagine how broken it would be to have tanking traits in merits.

Personally I could give a shit less on what they do, they already said it won't be for tanking HNMs, it won't be enough to substitute the complete blow-off to what everyone wanted -a new tank job.

On a side note, I can't wait to join a PT full of female dancers(no galkas) and schoolgirls when the expansion comes out :D

[RKenshin]

I'm betting it's like BLU or something. Or maybe PUP.

In all seriousness they probably could make BLU a tank pretty easily.

[Shadowhusky]

Changes and Additions planned for future updates.

For Tuesday - effect everyone - with WotG or not.

New macro pallets. New gobbiebags. Mog house visits.

Pankration- you can get the time your battle will happen. New feral skills. New pets. New practice pit is possible in near future - a place for training and to allow people to check out their friend's pets.

New reward for adventuring recruitment system is being considered.

In-game seasonal events.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Fan_F ... #Dev_Panel

[aznmajiktaru]

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnew ... 1881.shtml

Nov. 19, 2007 01:00 [PST] From: FINAL FANTASY XI
File Size for Nov. 19 Update

Downloadable file size and time required for FINAL FANTASY XI version update that is scheduled on Nov, 19 2007 8:00 (PST) are as follow.

[File size for clients with "Chains of Promathia" and "Treasures of Aht Urhgan" installed.]

"PlayStation 2" Version
Downloadable file size: 63.9MB
>>Analog modem (56Kbps) users:
About 5 hour, 6 minutes
>>DSL (1Mbps) users:
About 52 minutes

Windows Version
Downloadable file size: 111.3MB
>>Analog modem (56Kbps) users:
About 4 hours, 58 minutes
>>DSL (1Mbps) users:
About 50 minutes

Xbox 360 Version
Downloadable file size: 108.2MB
>>DSL (1Mbps) users:
About 53 minutes


[File size for clients without "Chains of Promathia" and "Treasures of Aht Urhgan" installed.]

"PlayStation 2" Version
Downloadable file size: 54.7MB
>>Analog modem (56Kbps) users:
About 4 hour, 24 minutes
>>DSL (1Mbps) users:
About 46 minutes

Windows Version
Downloadable file size: 99.8MB
>>Analog modem (56Kbps) users:
About 4 hour, 30 minutes
>>DSL (1Mbps) users:
About 47 minutes, 30 seconds

Xbox 360 Version
Downloadable file size: 99.5MB
>>DSL (1Mbps) users:
About 49 minutes

*Please note that the above times are the total approximate time for file check, download, and installation. The above times are for reference only. Download times depend on individual users' network environment and may vary from those shown above. Also, this update will require more time if previous version updates were not completed.

* You may receive errors such as "POL-1160" or "POL-0010" during the download process due to heavy server traffic. If you are unable to access the update, we ask that you please wait a while and then try again. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding in making this a smooth version update.

wow 111.3 mb D: wonder how long that's gonna take to d/l lol.

[arshesney]

hi2u 5+ hrs download, my only hope is for them to make patch downloadable soon after they shut down servers.

For S-E rep, I KNOW YOU WILL READ THIS: please, please, please, consider using BitTorrent to deploy patches... at least the ones bigger than 20MB. (It will ease traffic on YOUR servers also)

edit: typos

[Isiolia]

Still would not surprise me if the new tank is meant to be BST.

Look at the changes it's getting in this patch. Pet enmity spike. Adjustments that seem to favor being able to heal pets faster (faster Stay regen, new food to cure status ailments, shorter reward timer...

Figure, BST/WAR, 'voke, Snarl, pet takes most damage...that, to me, sounds like the start of making BST a viable small group/XP tank. Or at least something like a first-voke merit party member.

'course, it'd be contingent on being able to keep pets alive and keep hate...so sorta remain to be seen. WAR or MNK or something wouldn't have that issue due to direct healing ability and easily being able to generate hate.

Far as "moderately popular"...I'd say BST is, it's just a job that's rarely seen in XP/merit despite that a number of people play it.

[Kirst]

hi2u 5+ hrs download, my only hope is for them to make patch downloadable soon after they shut down servers.

This is what I'm hoping for as well.