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  1. #21
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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    It might be like Dynamis - Buburimu, except instead of a NM you just kill the normal monsters. You might even need to do it before AV pops, just at the last 10% HP of Love. No idea, at least this is a pathway, its not 100% clear but its a road

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Someone go pop AV.

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Going to fanfest, see you later.

  4. #24
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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Quote Originally Posted by Markus
    It might be like Dynamis - Buburimu, except instead of a NM you just kill the normal monsters. You might even need to do it before AV pops, just at the last 10% HP of Love. No idea, at least this is a pathway, its not 100% clear but its a road
    Was thinking the same

  5. #25
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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Quote Originally Posted by LordBane
    Quote Originally Posted by Markus
    You might even need to do it before AV pops, just at the last 10% HP of Love.
    Was thinking the same
    This is what i was thinking as i was reading the above, since they said JoL also effects it somehow. I'll have my ls attempt this next time we kill JoL making sure its people inside alliance killing them also.

  6. #26
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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    If you have to kill all the aerns, om or otherwise, it would be completely unrealistic. The manpower necessary to kill every freakin aern in the zone, and keep them killed when the respawn is pretty fast, is ridiculous. All of that would have to be juggled while swapping dead people in and out of the AV fight. If that's the way to kill it, then SE is smoking gigantic fat bowls of crack.

  7. #27
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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    In (highly speculative) theory, this means the most effective way to kill AV is to literally burn the zone clean of life beforehand- that AV's power is linked to the zone itself.

    Or is there somewhere you could kite the mobs in Sea that would force-depop them, leaving them despawned when you finish off JoL and spawn AV?

  8. #28
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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    It's not humanly possible to clean the entire zone, unless you had like 100 people PER section. Then another 2-3 alliances just focusing on AV

  9. #29
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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    its a valiant effort trying to get this mystery solved but that is just way too vague, he should have just laughed and ignored the question >.>

  10. #30
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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    What if rather than kill them all, there has to be a certain number of a specific job 'aern alive block the 2Hr?

    SE is kinda sick like that

    /lurk

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Could possibly be a thing like "Well, he's still going to be using these spells, but while you hold him at the start of the fight have a party go out and start taking out aerns, after X amount of a specific job is killed, that 2 hour is locked for the fight" or something like that. Just a thought, though. Maybe the lack of WHM Aerns means you have to spend extra time finding and killing more WHM Aerns to kill in order to lock Benediction...

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Remember that LS who killed 10 sets of AV's Wynav and then have its 2hr locked? *points at advanced discussion again*
    EDIT : after 95% HP >.>

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Thinking about this some more...

    Maybe use Widescan to target say 10 mobs previous to JoL/AV on the list and kill them. JoL and AV should share the same spot in the Widescan List unless i'm mistaken, possibly the mobs closest to them on the list might have an effect on AV.

    Buuuuuuut then again >_>, mobs like Om'hpemdes yovras and om'phuabos naturally shouldnt appear on the list because under/over water status, so therein lies something else gay to take into consideration. But hey, it just might be the aerns after all! Hopefully they'll just run a damn video and be done with the crap...

  14. #34
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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Have Linkshells had AV pop "Alone" before? As in -ga'd the Aerns at the end of JoL and AV popped with nothing around it?

    I am pretty sure a LS out there has, but I gotta ask.

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    maybe its something simple like keeping all of the Yovra dead. They are 45 min (iirc) pops arent they? So doing this wouldnt be so tough i would think. Just a suggestion lol

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    I don't think the trick has anything to do with keeping mobs alive or killing them. If this was true, then rival ls's can come and mpk an AV session by simply holding certain mobs (or killing them). . .

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Hummm,


    Anyone going to pop AV anytime soon?

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    I'm not trying to discredit this information, I'd just recommend approaching it with caution seeing as how it didn't come from one of the QA sessions, rather some random guy. I have a few questions for you.

    1. Do you know who the person that you asked was?
    2. Was there a shirt color coding scheme for different staff members?
    3. Do you have any pictures of the person you asked?

    Unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend this year. I was able to attend last year, however, and volunteered to help out. Every volunteer, myself included, were given black shirts with the letters "EVENT STAFF" on the back. Basically, what I'm saying is that it could have just been some random zammer volunteer or what have you yanking your chain.

    I think the best way to dig deeper would be to find out exactly who it was you asked the questions to. Take his picture if you must >_> Restating the information you recieved in question form tomorrow at the developer panel could also prove useful. "Does killing non-notorious aern, phaubo, hpemde monsters as well as yovra monsters have an effect on the two hour abilities Absolute Virtue has access to or the frequency that it can use them?" or something along those lines.

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Quote Originally Posted by Markus
    Hummm,


    Anyone going to pop AV anytime soon?
    3x JoL pops tomorrow...

    LS Leader has some theories about AV even before this stuff, so we'll see.

    But yeah... hard to really know anything from this. Kinda thinking it was just some random helper than doesn't actually know o_O But we'll see I guess.

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    Re: So I asked a question ….

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo
    I'm not trying to discredit this information, I'd just recommend approaching it with caution seeing as how it didn't come from one of the QA sessions, rather some random guy. I have a few questions for you.

    1. Do you know who the person that you asked was?
    2. Was there a shirt color coding scheme for different staff members?
    3. Do you have any pictures of the person you asked?

    Unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend this year. I was able to attend last year, however, and volunteered to help out. Every volunteer, myself included, were given black shirts with the letters "EVENT STAFF" on the back. Basically, what I'm saying is that it could have just been some random zammer volunteer or what have you yanking your chain.

    I think the best way to dig deeper would be to find out exactly who it was you asked the questions to. Take his picture if you must >_> Restating the information you recieved in question form tomorrow at the developer panel could also prove useful. "Does killing non-notorious aern, phaubo, hpemde monsters as well as yovra monsters have an effect on the two hour abilities Absolute Virtue has access to or the frequency that it can use them?" or something along those lines.
    Awww, you ruined it Mojo! A million members of the BG Hive Mind were about to subscribe to the words of a Zamtard like it was law. Epic lulz would have ensued.

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