more info on Scholar/Dancer

[donnie]

This info is what I've been able to glean so far from the Osaka event. Also updated the OP to include additional info from below.

2hr (For the duration, both White and Black magic is enhanced. Also allow use of War Scrolls without using charge)
White Grimoire (1min recast - Gives skill boost to Divine/Healing/Enhancing skills)
Black Grimoire (Most likely 1min recast - Gives skill boost to Enfeebling/Elemental/Dark skills)
??? (Ability increases any DoT damage on target while halving effect time)
War Scrolls (Ability to use magic effectively during corresponding Grimoire)
- ??? - (Allows use of next WHM magic at half MP cost)
- ??? - (Allows use of next WHM magic at half cast/recast time)
- ??? - (Allows increased effectiveness of next WHM magic)
- Divine ??? - (Allows Curing or Enhancing single-target spell to become AoE spells. Most likely MP cost 3x, Spell Recast 2x)

- ??? - (Allows use of next BLM magic at half MP cost)
- ??? - (Allows use of next BLM magic at half cast/recast time)
- ??? - (Allows increased effectiveness of next BLM magic)
- Elemental ??? - (Allows Enfeebling or Dark-based single-target spell to become AoE spells. MP cost 3x, Spell Recast 2x)

By default Scholar main has 3 charges at 4:00 recast. You can mix-and-match War Scrolls, ie. you can use 2 charges, one half-cast one AOE-cast, on the same spell, but you'd be left with 1 charge left and have to wait 4:00 before you regain a charge.

Half-cast spells fire at 37.5% or so. Stoneskin casted at roughly 3.5 sec or so in the demo.

Weather-changing spells are considered Black Magic. Scholar will also get access to new DoT spells that are supposedly more powerful than existing ones.

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Spell list active during White Grimoire

Cure I (7MP)-IV
Raise I-II
Poisona
Paralyna
Blindna
Silena
Stona
Viruna
Cursna (27MP)
Dia I-II
Diaga
Protect I-IV
Shell I-IV
Blink (18MP)
Stoneskin (27MP)
Aquaveil
Paralyze
Silence
Barfire/bliz/aero/stone/thunder/water
(and about 24 more spells that aren't shown)

So it seems White Grimoire has an effect of -10% MP spell use for WHM spells. Since I didn't see Curaga, it's a good indication that Osaka (demo char) wasn't /WHM.

For Black Grimoire
Fire I (22MP)-IV
Blizzard I-IV
Aero I-IV
Stone I (9MP)-IV
Thunder I-IV
Water I-IV
Gravity (72MP)
Poison
Bio I-II
Drain
Aspir
Blaze Spikes
Sleep
Bind
Dispel
Stone Weather Spell?
(and maybe another 7 spells)

The reason Gravity is 72MP is because the Elemental ??? ability was active. Apparently it requires use of 3x MP and recast is 2x. Since Osaka did not have access to -ga either, that means that she wasn't /BLM (but still got access to Drain and Aspir).

And unfortunately, it does seem that the charges are going to work like Assult tags. Max of 3 up, 4:00 to recharge one, as I distinctly heard the person say "it's going to require 4 min recast times 3" when describing it.

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DANCER:

This info is what I've been able to glean so far from the Osaka event.

Dancer JA
Trance (probable 2hr)
Samba Mode (Self-buff move)
- Drain Samba (10TP)
- Drain Samba II
- Drain Samba III
- Aspir Samba
- Aspir Samba II
- Haste Samba
Waltz Mode (Heals PT member)
Gigue Mode (Gives special status to self)
Step (required to use Flourish)
- Quick Step (10TP (Lv.1 Step) - Evasion Down effect)
- Box Step (10TP - Defense Down effect)
- Stutter Step (10TP - Magic Evasion Down effect)
Flourish
- A.Flourish (1 Step - Provoke Effect)
- D.Flourish
- R.Flourish
- V.Flourish
- B.Flourish
- W.Flourish

They said that various Flourish may require more than one level of step, and that some of the effect was to enhance WSes, convert the steps into TP, or open a particular SC. Some of the stuff I could not see because portions of the screen were obscured.


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i dont take credit for that, some freind did this but here you go :D

[Khamsin]

What's going on in Osaka? They're having an event at the same time as the Fanfest here?

[Akiyama]

Awesome information! Holy crap at the Scholar's spell range.. Lots of spells for the White/Black Grimoires.

Dancer looks pretty nifty too. Thanks a lot.

[spooky]

I like how Scholar gets access to top teir BLM spells but not top teir WHM spells. Making BLM even more redundent. Thanks SE.
It will make a nice sub for BLM I think. But I doubt it's going to do anything to get us back into PTs.
Oh well, hope they add more places to manaburn.

[Max™]

Well, Dancer is looking interesting. If Box/Quick steps are potent enough, that is effectively Minuet/Madrigal.

[Pergo]

I think "Osaka" is the name of the demo char

...and idk but the more and more i learn about these jobs, the less impressed i am

[Lordshin]

I like how Scholar gets access to top teir BLM spells but not top teir WHM spells. Making BLM even more redundent. Thanks SE.
It will make a nice sub for BLM I think. But I doubt it's going to do anything to get us back into PTs.
Oh well, hope they add more places to manaburn.

you forget they are giving us(blms) new spells hopefully they will be useful in TP burn-like parties.... or enhance normal setups


also.. where are you getting this info from cu this is the first time ive seen it Dx

[Rocl]

I like how Scholar gets access to top teir BLM spells but not top teir WHM spells. Making BLM even more redundent. Thanks SE.
It will make a nice sub for BLM I think. But I doubt it's going to do anything to get us back into PTs.
Oh well, hope they add more places to manaburn.

Do it again and I swear to god I'll get you banned.

[Max™]

I think "Osaka" is the name of the demo char

...and idk but the more and more i learn about these jobs, the less impressed i am

New healer option, New (de)buff option, and lord knows what adjustments in store for us.

[spooky]

I like how Scholar gets access to top teir BLM spells but not top teir WHM spells. Making BLM even more redundent. Thanks SE.
It will make a nice sub for BLM I think. But I doubt it's going to do anything to get us back into PTs.
Oh well, hope they add more places to manaburn.

Do it again and I swear to god I'll get you banned.

Can you explain what exactly I've done wrong please?

[Not Kuno]

QQing about blm.

As a blm I don't see anything particularly frightening about that list. But this post isn't meant to be argued so don't.

[Rocl]

I like how Scholar gets access to top teir BLM spells but not top teir WHM spells. Making BLM even more redundent. Thanks SE.
It will make a nice sub for BLM I think. But I doubt it's going to do anything to get us back into PTs.
Oh well, hope they add more places to manaburn.

Do it again and I swear to god I'll get you banned.

Can you explain what exactly I've done wrong please?

I'm going with what would be called "griefing" the topic, like you always do about how BLM is dying and SE should save it, and oh man poor Black Mages don't get enough stuff QQQQQQ

It's annoying and you've been asked to stop several times.

[Sho]

Anyways from BLM QQness >.>

Scholar is ftw. I don't like BLM. I don't like WHM. But god dammit, i'ma speed lvl SCH. >.>

[DAKPluto]

wait, wut? BLM is the job that needs help?

I almost shot milk out of my nose on that one.

[Dakana]

A.Flourish (1 Step - Provoke Effect)

/nin tank?

[lost071]

Anyways from BLM QQness >.>

Scholar is ftw. I don't like BLM. I don't like WHM. But god dammit, i'ma speed lvl SCH. >.>

Why? >.> From the sounds of things scholar is a combination of white mage and black mage both of which you don't like. What makes you think you're gonna like a job that combines the two lol? I mean you'll either be nuking like a BLM or you'll be healing like a WHM. The only reason I could see you wanting to lvl it is because its new?

[Khamsin]

It'll be interesting to see what Scholar's elemental skill rating is, and what sorts of equipment they can use. I expect they'll at least have A+ elemental and access to as much or more MAB, skill, and INT equipment as BLMs. But only time will tell.

There is the possibility that they may fall behind BLMs in sheer damage output if they don't have any meritable spells that can compete with a BLM's AMIIs, or in the slim chance that their options for MAB, skill and INT gear are more limited than anticipated. But for what we know right now, it looks like BLM has some competition.

[Isiolia]

It seems like it'll get most of what the three mage jobs have. Given the additional list of White magic, could well have Refresh on there too.

The catch is going to be whether or not they can use all of them on-demand effectively. I suspect not.

Still, I do hope WHM, RDM, and BLM get some new stuff as well to further differentiate them and make the jobs fresh after so many years.

[levish]

I was on the fence before about dancer and scholar but from taking a look at those abilities and imagining how they'd work together they actually seem very interesting.

I was definately not interested before this in Dancer but now it actually looks like something I might enjoy.

[lost071]

You have to realize there has to be some limits to what the job can do. I don't think you'll be able to switch from nuking to healing on the spot without some sort of penalty. That wouldnt make sense.