Windowed mode @ tues patch

[GSDragoon]

Anything with the DX9 additions to FFXI with this windowed mode? I'd like to play a this 5 year old game at full speed during dynamis one of these day. (Assuming it's not something stupid and just adding shaders). Though I guess that's asking too much to fix the game engine.

[Daahan]

Taj/Aikar, clarify a few things for me please.

1) So after Tuesday we should under no circumstances use Windower and instead just use SE's Windowed mode?

2) Are you guys just going to release a new version of Windower or just make something that adds the apps in to SE's windower?

Sucks for people that use windower macros (me being one of them).

[Spoony Bob]

Obviously alone on this, but I'll welcome the official windower. Anything to get away from the project that Taj was a part of.

[Alleya]

No windower macros. Hm.

Guess I'm not playing til the real windower is fixed.

[Tajin]

I have always been able to resize the window using windower >.>

[yrpaine]

I have always been able to resize the window using windower >.>

things would become smaller and scaled though. I'm assuming what they mean by fully scalable is text stays same size and window size shrinks?

[Solarus]

Woohoo, finally.

Well, 2 years ago this would have been a godsend. Though there are other benefits to Windower, I'd rather live without it. I've already got 2 strikes on one of my accounts due to actions of other people, so I'd rather not take any risks. TParty, nice but I can live without it. Windower macros, Spellcast, Recast, Autosort... also very nice little additions, but I lived without all of those just fine til recently, so I'll deal with it.

The only thing I am a little worried about is the capability to dual box =/ Though most of the time my connection kills that anyway.

[Thistle]

This is going to be fun. COR static on Tuesday. Wheee trying to get rolls on the right person without the distance plugin!

I can do without TP watch and even recast (though loss of recast will hurt), but without distance COR is going to be a challenge. (We have a PLD tank.)

[Kaylia]

Taj/Aikar, clarify a few things for me please.

1) So after Tuesday we should under no circumstances use Windower and instead just use SE's Windowed mode?

2) Are you guys just going to release a new version of Windower or just make something that adds the apps in to SE's windower?

Sucks for people that use windower macros (me being one of them).

1) They will probably update their engine more than a little after this update. They could easily add something to detect windower and other program running, so trying to use it might not be safe. Doubt old windower will still run after this update anyway,

2) Game is not playable without windower macro, tppluging, distance pluging and two boxing once you get used to it. Hope they will fix it >_>.

[SephYuyX]

I could care less about any other windower function aside from macros.

[Taj]

It'll obviously be fixed, but it might take a couple of days after the expansion release, so you'll be stuck playing without Windower macros for a short while.

[Tajin]

Which sucks, but on the other hand, everyone is going to be leveling new jobs / low level jobs anyway, so no real harm.

[Furtwangler]

whenever I resized the current windower or any previous if I remember right it messes up the text and stuff gets blurry etc, so having that in SE's is nice. I still won't give up the dual-boxing/plugins though lol

[Alleya]

It'll obviously be fixed, but it might take a couple of days after the expansion release, so you'll be stuck playing without Windower macros for a short while.

Aka not playing.

I think only 2-3 of my whm macros actually fit on a standard pallet these days.

[Fiofio]

No windower macros. Hm.

Guess I'm not playing til the real windower is fixed.

6 lines per macro, no TParty, no Distance, no windower scripts, no ambient lighting.... it would feel like the Dark Ages to me!

[yrpaine]

No windower macros. Hm.

Guess I'm not playing til the real windower is fixed.

6 lines per macro, no TParty, no Distance, no windower scripts, no ambient lighting.... it would feel like the Dark Ages to me!

isn't that the point of this update? supposed to be moving into the past

[Lucavi]

isn't that the point of this update? supposed to be moving into the past

I see what you did there.

[Kaylia]

No windower macros. Hm.

Guess I'm not playing til the real windower is fixed.

6 lines per macro, no TParty, no Distance, no windower scripts, no ambient lighting.... it would feel like the Dark Ages to me!

No alliance mp too. People always forget that one.


To answer first post in that quote, windower will never be "real" again, cause the window mode is now obsolete :D

[Fiofio]

I made a pun and didn't know

[Toxictaru]

Bah, why the fuck can't SE just give us more lines for our macros? "Hi, lets give you lots of cool gear and stuff that makes you better, but lets make it so you have to hit ALT+1+2+3+4+5 to actually make it useful!" Fuck that, I want my windower macros.

SE said something about not banning people outright for using windower anyway, that continued use would be at your own risk. Meh, who knows what that means, but eh. Regardless, it'll probably break anyway simply based on the client being updated, so we're likely going to be without ANYWAY.