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  1. #61
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Ffs stop saying unofficial windower, ours is the Official Windower.

    SE is not making a windower, they are enabling the option to run the game in Windowed
    Mode.

    http://www.Windower.net is the OFFICIAL windower.

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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Semantics aside, I have a question that hopefully the windower people reading this thread can answer. I made a post a few days ago in Technical Support forums, but the answer I got I can't figure out how to execute. Basically when I use windower I like game_gamma 50, and when I don't use windower it looks like the equivalent of game_gamma 60. I like game_gamma 50 brightness, but have no clue how to change that without windower. Since we won't have access to windower for an indefinite period of time starting next week, this problem is of the utmost urgency (to me)! Would one of you mind a quick answer here or in the thread I made in Tech Support?

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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony Bob
    Obviously alone on this, but I'll welcome the official windower. Anything to get away from the project that Taj was a part of.

    seriously, people need to get over this.

  4. #64
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Suiram
    Semantics aside, I have a question that hopefully the windower people reading this thread can answer. I made a post a few days ago in Technical Support forums, but the answer I got I can't figure out how to execute. Basically when I use windower I like game_gamma 50, and when I don't use windower it looks like the equivalent of game_gamma 60. I like game_gamma 50 brightness, but have no clue how to change that without windower. Since we won't have access to windower for an indefinite period of time starting next week, this problem is of the utmost urgency (to me)! Would one of you mind a quick answer here or in the thread I made in Tech Support?
    Open FFXI config, adjust gamma base until it matches what you want.

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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    I set this to -0.5 and now it looks exactly how I want it to. Thanks a lot. :D

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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Aikar
    Ffs stop saying unofficial windower, ours is the Official Windower.

    SE is not making a windower, they are enabling the option to run the game in Windowed
    Mode.

    http://www.Windower.net is the OFFICIAL windower.
    not to be an ass, but i feel the need to point out here thats its far less than official.
    may i suggest referring to it as the Windower Project when comparing to the new (and actually official) windowed mode.

  7. #67
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasantath
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikar
    Ffs stop saying unofficial windower, ours is the Official Windower.

    SE is not making a windower, they are enabling the option to run the game in Windowed
    Mode.

    http://www.Windower.net is the OFFICIAL windower.
    not to be an ass, but i feel the need to point out here thats its far less than official.
    may i suggest referring to it as the Windower Project when comparing to the new (and actually official) windowed mode.

    Gotta agree with you. I've been using the windower myself for some time but it alway felt like shoddy and buggy third party software. There were always issues no matter how minor. I've always had major lag issues with the windower that didn't exist without it. I never had to use the windower macros or other functionality only for convenience of being able to task switch . Needless to say I will be using SE's version in the upcoming patch.

    For someone affiliated with the windower team to come out and say they are the 'official' windower just screams of arrogance and just pushed me away farther. Plus after the fact I don't trust anything Taj associates with now after the crap that happened in the past.

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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin
    will DX9 resolved issues with nvidia cards?
    the latest driver from nvidia (like, july 2007) resolved issues with 99% of nvidia cards (certainly did for all of my 7 and 6 series cards; can't speak for 8 series)

  9. #69
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    It did not resolve issues for 8x00 series running vista, been trying with various drivers from 169.09 (works horrible) and down. The least bad one seems to be 158.45 which still gives me some 16 FPS just from running in north sandy, so the game is by no means playable event style then either. I'm keeping my fingers crossed really bad for next update ; ;

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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathzel
    It did not resolve issues for 8x00 series running vista, been trying with various drivers from 169.09 (works horrible) and down. The least bad one seems to be 158.45 which still gives me some 16 FPS just from running in north sandy, so the game is by no means playable event style then either. I'm keeping my fingers crossed really bad for next update ; ;
    Running Vista by chance? Vista has a lot of issues with FFXI. Hopefully a Directx9 migration will alleviate those issues.

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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Attila
    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony Bob
    Obviously alone on this, but I'll welcome the official windower. Anything to get away from the project that Taj was a part of.

    seriously, people need to get over this.
    Seriously, people need to quit humping Taj's leg already. He made his choices. As a result of his choices the two larger projects that he was working on have lost some credibility; one of those being the Windower. The BG Wiki also lost a lot of his steam when it's main proponent turned out to be nothing more than a misguided teenager who gets off on having his ego stroked.

  12. #72
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by shirizaan
    Quote Originally Posted by Attila
    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony Bob
    Obviously alone on this, but I'll welcome the official windower. Anything to get away from the project that Taj was a part of.

    seriously, people need to get over this.
    Seriously, people need to quit humping Taj's leg already. He made his choices. As a result of his choices the two larger projects that he was working on have lost some credibility; one of those being the Windower. The BG Wiki also lost a lot of his steam when it's main proponent turned out to be nothing more than a misguided teenager who gets off on having his ego stroked.
    I don't think anyone would consider Taj BGwiki's "main proponent". Taj was doing the items, but was not an admin or representative of BGwiki.

    I have mixed feelings on Taj, myself. He did well exposing otherwiki's fraud, but worldshifting people away from their friends on their own credit cards for 90 days was unacceptable. However, doing one thing does not invalidate anything else he's ever done. He's been a helpful addition to jumpstarting BGwiki, but he's also been an ass.

    Either way, neither BGwiki nor Windower has lost any steam in my eyes based on Taj's actions. Windower simply because there are others there who watch what goes into Windower, and BGwiki because Taj does not run or admin the wiki. It's in Sonomaa and FANetwork's (Aikar's?) hands.

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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by shirizaan
    Quote Originally Posted by Attila
    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony Bob
    Obviously alone on this, but I'll welcome the official windower. Anything to get away from the project that Taj was a part of.

    seriously, people need to get over this.
    Seriously, people need to quit humping Taj's leg already. He made his choices. As a result of his choices the two larger projects that he was working on have lost some credibility; one of those being the Windower. The BG Wiki also lost a lot of his steam when it's main proponent turned out to be nothing more than a misguided teenager who gets off on having his ego stroked.
    I don't think anyone would consider Taj BGwiki's "main proponent". Taj was doing the items, but was not an admin or representative of BGwiki.

    I have mixed feelings on Taj, myself. He did well exposing otherwiki's fraud, but worldshifting people away from their friends on their own credit cards for 90 days was unacceptable. However, doing one thing does not invalidate anything else he's ever done. He's been a helpful addition to jumpstarting BGwiki, but he's also been an ass.

    Either way, neither BGwiki nor Windower has lost any steam in my eyes based on Taj's actions. Windower simply because there are others there who watch what goes into Windower, and BGwiki because Taj does not run or admin the wiki. It's in Sonomaa and FANetwork's (Aikar's?) hands.
    It was his notoriety that propelled the project in the first place.

  14. #74
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Dude.. if anything you are humping his leg even more than anyone by mentioning it in multiple threads.

  15. #75
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Ok to clear up why the BG-Wiki was formed instead of people pulling answers out of their asses, Aikar and Vega approached Sonomaa and I with an offer for a server, if they could advertise on it. Yes, the BG-Wiki was created because of what happened with FFXIclopedia, but it was done so that the people who were no longer using that wiki, would have somewhere to go, without feeling like they were lining someones pockets. Taj is not an admin of the wiki, he helped with some technical stuff for items and later was banned from it after taking his actions too far. He's not associated with the BG-Wiki staff and that's coming straight from the BG Admins, so cut the shit and stop repeating this over and over. Derail anymore threads with this and you will be banned.

  16. #76
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Does this resizable window mode of FF support usage of Japanese for NA version of FF?

    Japanese usage is very impt to me hence I would like to know abit more. Thanks

  17. #77
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Bennettz
    Does this resizable window mode of FF support usage of Japanese for NA version of FF?

    Japanese usage is very impt to me hence I would like to know abit more. Thanks
    no

  18. #78
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaros
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasantath
    Quote Originally Posted by Aikar
    Ffs stop saying unofficial windower, ours is the Official Windower.

    SE is not making a windower, they are enabling the option to run the game in Windowed
    Mode.

    http://www.Windower.net is the OFFICIAL windower.
    not to be an ass, but i feel the need to point out here thats its far less than official.
    may i suggest referring to it as the Windower Project when comparing to the new (and actually official) windowed mode.
    For someone affiliated with the windower team to come out and say they are the 'official' windower just screams of arrogance and just pushed me away farther. Plus after the fact I don't trust anything Taj associates with now after the crap that happened in the past.
    Technically, Aikar is right, their program is the official "Windower." As in their name, it's not arrogant, but fact. Thus their program is the official Windower.

    SE's windower isn't called windower, but in fact just their game in just windowed mode. Nothing more, nothing less.

    God dam people and their inside the box thinking >=(

    Anyways, should be Windowed and Windower imo lol.

    And life without my gear swaps on COR? SE u can fk me right out lol. I'll need about 7 macros exclusively for how much I change gear on that job alone =/

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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    Aye, windower was out long long before SE even thought of the idea of having a windowed mode.

  20. #80
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    Re: Windowed mode @ tues patch

    so it is official DX9 ? i know they said they were gonna do it. but i didn't actually see when they were gonna do it.

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