The Version Update Has Arrived! (11/19/2007)

[Isiolia]

Yay to pretty much everything except

It is not possible to take screenshots in windowed mode by pressing the Alt key and the Print Screen key.

I don't know crap about game coding, but would this have really been such a pain to make possible? blech.

Hope the OS (Windows) can take care of that.... normally when you hit PrintScreen a snapshot of your full desktop is taken and stored in RAM, a simple copypasta in any image editing preogram and you're done.

Not sure if that can be disabled by software.

It can be disabled. Run a copyrighted DVD in Windows Media player and trying taking a screenshot of it with Print Screen, you get a screen shot of WMP showing nothing but black.

You get that because the DVD is being drawn in via overlay, not because it's specifically disabled by the player. The player is actually putting a specific color there, and the hardware/software decoder is drawing the DVD video onto that color. Used to be able to use that trick to play DVDs as wallpaper and such.
'course, it -could- be different now, but that's how it was years ago the last time I looked at it.

any word on what rdm is getting to make them move up to the frontlines?

Jack shit at this time. Most likely period, they probably just told us that so we wouldn't complain RDM wasn't getting anything.

[Kaslo]

Client: Bluffnix (Muckvix's Junk Shop, Lower Jeuno)Summary: Bluffnix will make your pack even bigger if you bring him the following: a square of lynx leather, an adaman ingot, a square of rainbow cloth, and a deathstone.

Client: Bluffnix (Muckvix's Junk Shop, Lower Jeuno)Summary: Bluffnix will make your pack even bigger if you bring him the following: a square of smilodon leather, an electrum ingot, a square of cilice, and an angelstone.

So much for leveling up Smithing for a while.

/nod
Time for ripping people off

yay maybe I can actually get people to camp Aspid!

[SephYuyX]

Yay to pretty much everything except

It is not possible to take screenshots in windowed mode by pressing the Alt key and the Print Screen key.

I don't know crap about game coding, but would this have really been such a pain to make possible? blech.

Hope the OS (Windows) can take care of that.... normally when you hit PrintScreen a snapshot of your full desktop is taken and stored in RAM, a simple copypasta in any image editing preogram and you're done.

Not sure if that can be disabled by software.

It can be disabled. Run a copyrighted DVD in Windows Media player and trying taking a screenshot of it with Print Screen, you get a screen shot of WMP showing nothing but black.

That happens with everything WMP plays, there is a trick to get that to work though.

[bolkin]

I won't rush into saying that Gekko, Kasha and Yukikaze got nerfed. The effects of the following weapon skills have been adjusted:
Tachi: Yukikaze
Tachi: Gekko
Tachi: Kasha
Who knows if they were referring to the elemental attributes of those WS. Maybe they will lower the effects or raise them. Let's just wait and see.

Edit: Fixed the font color.

[Spira]

i dunno if im doing something wrong...

but i looked thru the equip models after my update completed..

other than DNC and SCH af, theres seems to be only 2 new equipment models. Both are metallic looking. 1 plate armor, the other semi cloth i think.

I also dont see new weapon models.. but im not familiar with those

[Xanthe]

Sounds like Two-handed jobs might be worse off than before the original two-handed update

I don't see how that can be possible unless the attribute bonuses have gone below 2:1.

Err... part of the patch info says that the attribute modifier for 2-handed weapons changed. Given they were going to nerf this, I can't exactly imagine it going up. This was like THE key to the weapon changes... honestly I don't give a damn if they went back to the original dmg calculators so long as they left this intact. Fail. I know someone theorized they might have slightly raised the calculations, but I'd be very surprised. Welcome back to everyone begging for war/nins.

Err... the 2:1 ratio is what it was pre-august patch, I know what the patch details said. 1:1 is what it was before today. 1:1 is better than 2:1. Anything less than 2:1 would be considered worse off than before the original patch.

FInally, thanks SE, for giving out a freaking ton of good info at fanfest, then not actually implementing any of it (except the nerfs). Why in gods name were they so specific about what most of the job changes did and the NOT implement them? Fail. It'd be nice to stop promising crap before it's designed. Good to know nerfing is a top priority versus content. So basically, we got our nerfs, RNG and WHM actually did get their new features... but past that nothing. So they're handing us the new expansion without actually coughing up what they thought were appropriate changes that could be of benefit (namely, tanking-related things... since they confessed being too lazy to make a new tank job).

They kind of told us only the WHM, THF, BST, and RNG changes were happening this patch. The rest was just planned for future patches.

[Amele]

im @2000 shells to apocalypse and im not complaining about my catastrophe, which is INT AGI mod, and whether the 2H patch will screw me up

WHY ARE YOU SAM SPENDING 1M ON HAGUN COMPLAINING SO MUCH WHEN ACTUAL RESULTS NOT OUT YET?!

Because Dex being 1:1 with Acc opened up a ton of equipment options and elevated gear like Askar and Ares from "lol, maybe for WS" to full-time awesome. This just forces us all back into wearing the same shit. It also keeps 2h from taking advantage of their higher damage weapons by piling on attack. Goodbye, merits on my Sam. Welcome back, War only.

it's almost like SE wants us to all wear the same shit..

[Saraphym]

holding off on bitching about 2h "adjustments". Most likely a nerf but until we know how bad it is, theres not not much to bitch about. For the good though, yay for gobbie bags and no more rent-a-room bs.

[Xno Kappa]

Two years ago I probably would have agreed to RDM's not getting anything but that was two freaking years ago. RDM and MNK are probably the two most archaic jobs in this game.

[Arthars]

im @2000 shells to apocalypse and im not complaining about my catastrophe, which is INT AGI mod, and whether the 2H patch will screw me up

WHY ARE YOU SAM SPENDING 1M ON HAGUN COMPLAINING SO MUCH WHEN ACTUAL RESULTS NOT OUT YET?!

Because Dex being 1:1 with Acc opened up a ton of equipment options and elevated gear like Askar and Ares from "lol, maybe for WS" to full-time awesome. This just forces us all back into wearing the same shit. It also keeps 2h from taking advantage of their higher damage weapons by piling on attack. Goodbye, merits on my Sam. Welcome back, War only.

ok my bad for yelling. your right for 1:1 thing but i dont think they going back to 2:1 either
when they said to buff at previous patch, they mean TO BUFF. and they also kinda mention they will monitor the balance issues which is what they doing.

1. You have to admit SAM is all over the place now like 2004 RNGs
2. 1:1 adjustment means all 2Hers not only SAM
3. they wont be so stupid to pay some sundi look-alike to buff 2H, then go back to pre patch
4. 2Hers not going to be screwed im sure
5. stay positive and wait for results

[Verb]

Is this an old dat? If not, is it a new icon for ls ?

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...fxi/wuthuh.jpg

[recuperi]

I won't rush into saying that Gekko, Kasha and Yukikaze got nerfed. The effects of the following weapon skills have been adjusted:
Tachi: Yukikaze
Tachi: Gekko
Tachi: Kasha
Who knows if they were referring to the elemental attributes of those WS. Maybe they will lower the effects or raise them. Let's just wait and see.

It seems a fairly reasonable assumption that the damage formula is in some way going to be adjusted in favor of SC resistance rate going down, from what they said at fanfest and all.

and also, blue

[Skeetaru]

Is this an old dat? If not, is it a new icon for ls ?

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...fxi/wuthuh.jpg

Hi Verb, see u in DA in like 2.5 hrs! <3

THANK GOD THEY ARE NERFING 2HANDERS NOW I DONT HAVE TO REDO ANY MERITS!

[S N K]

I won't rush into saying that Gekko, Kasha and Yukikaze got nerfed. The effects of the following weapon skills have been adjusted:
Tachi: Yukikaze
Tachi: Gekko
Tachi: Kasha
Who knows if they were referring to the elemental attributes of those WS. Maybe they will lower the effects or raise them. Let's just wait and see.

Is there any reason why you felt the need to be "special" and change the color font of your text to bleed like shit on my screen?

[Deftscythe]

im @2000 shells to apocalypse and im not complaining about my catastrophe, which is INT AGI mod, and whether the 2H patch will screw me up

WHY ARE YOU SAM SPENDING 1M ON HAGUN COMPLAINING SO MUCH WHEN ACTUAL RESULTS NOT OUT YET?!

Because Dex being 1:1 with Acc opened up a ton of equipment options and elevated gear like Askar and Ares from "lol, maybe for WS" to full-time awesome. This just forces us all back into wearing the same shit. It also keeps 2h from taking advantage of their higher damage weapons by piling on attack. Goodbye, merits on my Sam. Welcome back, War only.

ok my bad for yelling. your right for 1:1 thing but i dont think they going back to 2:1 either
when they said to buff at previous patch, they mean TO BUFF. and they also kinda mention they will monitor the balance issues which is what they doing.

1. You have to admit SAM is all over the place now like 2004 RNGs
2. 1:1 adjustment means all 2Hers not only SAM
3. they wont be so stupid to pay some sundi look-alike to buff 2H, then go back to pre patch
4. 2Hers not going to be screwed im sure
5. stay positive and wait for results

1) Sam is not even close to pre-nerf RNG.
2) I talked about all 2H instead of just Sam because SE seems to think they're the same thing and because I don't care about YGK getting nerfed.
3)Past evidence implies that they are absolutely capable of being that stupid.
4) See 3.
5) See 3.

[Izzy]

I won't rush into saying that Gekko, Kasha and Yukikaze got nerfed. The effects of the following weapon skills have been adjusted:
Tachi: Yukikaze
Tachi: Gekko
Tachi: Kasha
Who knows if they were referring to the elemental attributes of those WS. Maybe they will lower the effects or raise them. Let's just wait and see.

Is there any reason why you felt the need to be "special" and change the color font of your text to bleed like shit on my screen?

Grats on being a dick for no reason!

[Isiolia]

Two years ago I probably would have agreed to RDM's not getting anything but that was two freaking years ago. RDM and MNK are probably the two most archaic jobs in this game.

I've played RDM as my main since the day I started the game (PC release). So I've gotten just a little cynical about RDM stuff in updates. >.>;

[Kuponut]

Sounds like Two-handed jobs might be worse off than before the original two-handed update

I don't see how that can be possible unless the attribute bonuses have gone below 2:1.

Err... part of the patch info says that the attribute modifier for 2-handed weapons changed. Given they were going to nerf this, I can't exactly imagine it going up. This was like THE key to the weapon changes... honestly I don't give a damn if they went back to the original dmg calculators so long as they left this intact. Fail. I know someone theorized they might have slightly raised the calculations, but I'd be very surprised. Welcome back to everyone begging for war/nins.

Err... the 2:1 ratio is what it was pre-august patch, I know what the patch details said. 1:1 is what it was before today. 1:1 is better than 2:1. Anything less than 2:1 would be considered worse off than before the original patch.

FInally, thanks SE, for giving out a freaking ton of good info at fanfest, then not actually implementing any of it (except the nerfs). Why in gods name were they so specific about what most of the job changes did and the NOT implement them? Fail. It'd be nice to stop promising crap before it's designed. Good to know nerfing is a top priority versus content. So basically, we got our nerfs, RNG and WHM actually did get their new features... but past that nothing. So they're handing us the new expansion without actually coughing up what they thought were appropriate changes that could be of benefit (namely, tanking-related things... since they confessed being too lazy to make a new tank job).

They kind of told us only the WHM, THF, BST, and RNG changes were happening this patch. The rest was just planned for future patches.

I say worse off, because a Month or two ago they nerfed some of the two-handed weaponskills to "adjust" them to the two-handed weapon update, and the 1:1 ratio of STR/DEX and Attack/Accuracy really was amazing, hopefully they don't revert it back to the 2:1 ratio, but if they did, they would be worse off. That's why I said "might" be worse off and such.

Soo... here's hoping!

[Remyo]

Is this an old dat? If not, is it a new icon for ls ?

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...fxi/wuthuh.jpg

access to a beastmen linkshell? they did say at fanfest gobs have linkpearls in their heads...

[Arthars]

looks like beastmen in FFXI gotta be like agents in matrix

headpiece to communicate