The New Jobs Nov. 20. 2007

[Damane]

I cannot even apply 1 of the weather bonuses as whm/sch, or brd/sch to the pt, wtf is this scholar is starting allready to fail as SJ before I started to play it

[Kaslo]

Doesn't the grimoire's give a boost themselves? I forget with all the incoming info o.O

[Damane]

Doesn't the grimoire's give a boost themselves? I forget with all the incoming info o.O

yeah because the boost in enhancing, divine and *gasp" healing magic skill will break my whm and give me healing potency +35... (well enhancing could do something for barspells depending on the potency of the +skill)

[Seigfried Of Pandy]

Well, subbing SCH doesnt look very attractive anymore.

Seriously. They went like "We wanted this job to be a new SJ for mages!" except for you know.. you can't do the AoE thing and you can't store the JAs. The Art bonuses and 2 JA we get would have to be really good to be worth using.

tbh though i also wouldnt want everything whored out to /sch and make the main job pointless.

[Lordender]

doesn't look like scholar is even worth it subbing for blm.

[Kaslo]

Doesn't the grimoire's give a boost themselves? I forget with all the incoming info o.O

yeah because the boost in enhancing, divine and *gasp" healing magic skill will break my whm and give me healing potency +35... (well enhancing could do something for barspells depending on the potency of the +skill)

Well the boost to enfeeble or elemental magic may be beneficial for BLM and RDM situationally.

[Max™]

I thought Light/Dark Arts gave a Conserve MP effect in addition to the boost to said magic types?

[Lordender]

Well the boost to enfeeble or elemental magic may be beneficial for BLM and RDM situationally.

I don't see how thats going to be worth losing mp you would get by subbing whm or the int you get by subbing rdm for blm.

[Genosync]

doesn't look like scholar is even worth it subbing for blm.

Might want to take that back, if Scholar gets Gravity before Lv37.

Because otherwise, it's everything you were getting from Red Mage to begin with, unless you're going to go batshit crazy over two Resist Petrify traits that never proc.

[Damane]

doesn't look like scholar is even worth it subbing for blm.

its better then /rdm, just for the fact that you get kind of "fast cast" with dark arts and have reduced MP cost on it. + you have some -na spells at your disposal. not to forget the boost on skill itself.

for whm it just seem shitty, since whm spells dont even rely nearly as bad on skills as blm (ecxeption is if you want to enfeeb)

[Lordender]

i doubt scholar is going to give more int subbed than rdm though :D

[Genosync]

INT: B (same as SMN)

found at fanfest

and guess what, that's one INT higher than red mage.

god, do some research.

and no, having the books open already does lower cast time and mp cost a little.

[Remyo]

doesn't look like scholar is even worth it subbing for blm.

Might want to take that back, if Scholar gets Gravity before Lv37.

Because otherwise, it's everything you were getting from Red Mage to begin with, unless you're going to go batshit crazy over two Resist Petrify traits that never proc.

plus a lvl 30 max mp boost you wouldnt get from whm or rdm

[Genosync]

doesn't look like scholar is even worth it subbing for blm.

Might want to take that back, if Scholar gets Gravity before Lv37.

Because otherwise, it's everything you were getting from Red Mage to begin with, unless you're going to go batshit crazy over two Resist Petrify traits that never proc.

plus a lvl 30 max mp boost you wouldnt get from whm or rdm

hell yeah that 10 mp is going to kick ass

seriously, 10 mp? whatever

[Elavon]

Bye bye Hastega. Kinda lame they didn't make that a lower level to give that to WHM+RDM.

i missed something... how can you say that?

[Remyo]

doesn't look like scholar is even worth it subbing for blm.

Might want to take that back, if Scholar gets Gravity before Lv37.

Because otherwise, it's everything you were getting from Red Mage to begin with, unless you're going to go batshit crazy over two Resist Petrify traits that never proc.

plus a lvl 30 max mp boost you wouldnt get from whm or rdm

hell yeah that 10 mp is going to kick ass

seriously, 10 mp? whatever

hey I was on your side. ((((

[Genosync]

Bye bye Hastega. Kinda lame they didn't make that a lower level to give that to WHM+RDM.

i missed something... how can you say that?

They made the AoE ability for magic learned at Lv55. So, any hope some of us had of having Hastega and Refreshga is now toast.

doesn't look like scholar is even worth it subbing for blm.

Might want to take that back, if Scholar gets Gravity before Lv37.

Because otherwise, it's everything you were getting from Red Mage to begin with, unless you're going to go batshit crazy over two Resist Petrify traits that never proc.

plus a lvl 30 max mp boost you wouldnt get from whm or rdm

hell yeah that 10 mp is going to kick ass

seriously, 10 mp? whatever

hey I was on your side. ((((

I know, but... just bitching about them only giving probably one MP Boost trait.

[Elavon]

Bye bye Hastega. Kinda lame they didn't make that a lower level to give that to WHM+RDM.

i missed something... how can you say that?

They made the AoE ability for magic learned at Lv55. So, any hope some of us had of having Hastega and Refreshga is now toast.

i hope that refresh and haste can be used by sch, then... that's our last chance

[Remyo]

[quote=Genosync]

Bye bye Hastega. Kinda lame they didn't make that a lower level to give that to WHM+RDM.

i missed something... how can you say that?

They made the AoE ability for magic learned at Lv55. So, any hope some of us had of having Hastega and Refreshga is now toast.

doesn't look like scholar is even worth it subbing for blm.

Might want to take that back, if Scholar gets Gravity before Lv37.

Because otherwise, it's everything you were getting from Red Mage to begin with, unless you're going to go batshit crazy over two Resist Petrify traits that never proc.

plus a lvl 30 max mp boost you wouldnt get from whm or rdm

hell yeah that 10 mp is going to kick ass

seriously, 10 mp? whatever

hey I was on your side. ((((

I know, but... just bitching about them only giving probably one MP Boost trait.[/quote:1jpc3zt1]
was there any word on scholar getting access to teleports?

[Damane]

They made the AoE ability for magic learned at Lv55. So, any hope some of us had of having Hastega and Refreshga is now toast.

which was actually almost the whole point for me to lvl SCH as a sub for whm (besides the nice constant conserv mp of 10% or so from white arts)