Equipment discussion

[epigram]

So it looks like we will see new Star rank items in two weeks? I guess that would be the level 45 stuff.

[Tarage]

So... anyone find anything for SMN yet? Or have we been jyped again. ;_;

[lost071]

So... anyone find anything for SMN yet? Or have we been jyped again. ;_;

Theres no hope until the next update at the very least. All of the currently obtainable items were found using .dats on the day of the last update.

[Tarage]

So... anyone find anything for SMN yet? Or have we been jyped again. ;_;

Theres no hope until the next update at the very least. All of the currently obtainable items were found using .dats on the day of the last update.

I'm starting to think SMN is the PUP of equiptment.

[Varg]

So... anyone find anything for SMN yet? Or have we been jyped again. ;_;

Theres no hope until the next update at the very least. All of the currently obtainable items were found using .dats on the day of the last update.

I'm starting to think SMN is the PUP of equiptment.

PUP is the PUP of equipment... not sure why SMNs moan about equipment as there are very good pieces and each af2 piece has merit. All PUP has is pahluwan and errant gear after 70 and then have to work toward usukane. Their best back slot is attk+6 and their only DD gear throughout the levels comes from 'all job' equipment. They've got you trumped on all accounts.

[lost071]

So... anyone find anything for SMN yet? Or have we been jyped again. ;_;

Theres no hope until the next update at the very least. All of the currently obtainable items were found using .dats on the day of the last update.

I'm starting to think SMN is the PUP of equiptment.

PUP is the PUP of equipment... not sure why SMNs moan about equipment as there are very good pieces and each af2 piece has merit. All PUP has is pahluwan and errant gear after 70 and then have to work toward usukane. Their best back slot is attk+6 and their only DD gear throughout the levels comes from 'all job' equipment. They've got you trumped on all accounts.

This is exactly why we moan about equipment. Most other jobs have AF2 and other sets that they can use at 75. We have one set thats ok. Honestly AF2 for SMN is useful, but its far from good. The only stats that are really good for it are the-blood pact from each piece, and the "Enhances Avatar acc" and +10 summoning magic from gloves. SMN Af2 is far from good.

[Maxxthepenguin]

So... anyone find anything for SMN yet? Or have we been jyped again. ;_;

Theres no hope until the next update at the very least. All of the currently obtainable items were found using .dats on the day of the last update.

I'm starting to think SMN is the PUP of equiptment.

PUP is the PUP of equipment... not sure why SMNs moan about equipment as there are very good pieces and each af2 piece has merit. All PUP has is pahluwan and errant gear after 70 and then have to work toward usukane. Their best back slot is attk+6 and their only DD gear throughout the levels comes from 'all job' equipment. They've got you trumped on all accounts.

This is exactly why we moan about equipment. Most other jobs have AF2 and other sets that they can use at 75. We have one set thats ok. Honestly AF2 for SMN is useful, but its far from good. The only stats that are really good for it are the-blood pact from each piece, and the "Enhances Avatar acc" and +10 summoning magic from gloves. SMN Af2 is far from good.

So...you have useful pieces of AF2 and each has at least some use.

Compare to DRK. Quitcherbitchin.

[epigram]

bst: At least drk and smn have useful jse >.>;

rng & mnk: At least you have JSE

bst: Like you'd use it anyway because it'll suck

rng & mnk: touche'

pup: SE hates us.

everyone: yeah

I think we've grinded through this before a few thousand times. The only thing I would seriously complain about smn is the lack of useful bloodpacts pre 65. It's a dirt cheap job compaired to others, but does require a lot of time and effort to equip regardless.

BTW, anyone rank up yet?

[lost071]

[quote=Maxxthepenguin]

So... anyone find anything for SMN yet? Or have we been jyped again. ;_;

Theres no hope until the next update at the very least. All of the currently obtainable items were found using .dats on the day of the last update.

I'm starting to think SMN is the PUP of equiptment.

PUP is the PUP of equipment... not sure why SMNs moan about equipment as there are very good pieces and each af2 piece has merit. All PUP has is pahluwan and errant gear after 70 and then have to work toward usukane. Their best back slot is attk+6 and their only DD gear throughout the levels comes from 'all job' equipment. They've got you trumped on all accounts.

This is exactly why we moan about equipment. Most other jobs have AF2 and other sets that they can use at 75. We have one set thats ok. Honestly AF2 for SMN is useful, but its far from good. The only stats that are really good for it are the-blood pact from each piece, and the "Enhances Avatar acc" and +10 summoning magic from gloves. SMN Af2 is far from good.

So...you have useful pieces of AF2 and each has at least some use.

Compare to DRK. Quitcherbitchin.[/quote:iql2qx6e]

Oh really? Last I knew DRK could equip homam, ares, and askar? SMN hasn't gotten a good set since dynamis was added which was how many years ago? I'd gladly trade AF2 for 3 good sets. K thx.

[BRP]

SMN not getting any good gear has a lot to do with the fact no stat but specific shit like skill, -bpdelay, and -perprate actually helps them. I don't think SE is all too willing to make every job SMN gets paired up on these armor sets have all this -perprate.

[Rocl]

BTW, anyone rank up yet?

I should be getting my medal at 2 AM I think, if not 2 AM the next morning <_<

[lost071]

SMN not getting any good gear has a lot to do with the fact no stat but specific shit like skill, -bpdelay, and -perprate actually helps them. I don't think SE is all too willing to make every job SMN gets paired up on these armor sets have all this -perprate.

Why can't they make new stats then? Maybe gear with Pet: Physical Damage +5% or something along those lines. This would help both SMN, and DRG/PUP maybe.

[BRP]

SMN not getting any good gear has a lot to do with the fact no stat but specific shit like skill, -bpdelay, and -perprate actually helps them. I don't think SE is all too willing to make every job SMN gets paired up on these armor sets have all this -perprate.

Why can't they make new stats then? Maybe gear with Pet: Physical Damage +5% or something along those lines. This would help both SMN, and DRG/PUP maybe.

Yeah, but unfortunately most gear is going to be based stats. Like Morrigan's for example. Three mage jobs that benefits from (either or both) the INT and MND. Most gear is going to include stuff like Accuracy or INT+... SMN has nothing to benefit from anything that isn't extremely specific. It's either JSE or bust for them. Or a set like Nashira that flings magical skill around.

[Max™]

I'll have my medal a little before 9 Pm I think.

Not sure how many others hit the town and went straight to doing missions, but I'll be posting what the items/costs are if others don't beat me too it.

[Myrrial]

The person arguing that SMN is on par with PUP for gear options needs to try actually playing PUP. SMN usually don't look pretty because they're wearing some bastard assortment of Yigit/Nashira/Yingyang/whatever but the gear -is- there.

Are you -seriously- complaining that your armor doesn't have relevant stat bonuses? Do you have any idea how much +CHR I can access as PUP in relation to STR?

[Ryushii]

I haven't seen this posted anywhere. What is the Windurst Star Rank Items?

[Lucavi]

Just give smns gear that gives avatars job traits, like double or triple attack, and killer effects. :D

[Xanthe]

I haven't seen this posted anywhere. What are the Windurst Star Rank Items?

Cobra Unit Hat:
DEF:17 INT+2 MP recovered while healing +1 Set: Increases MP
Lv.55 MNK/WHM/BLM/RDM/THF/DRK/BRD/RNG/SMN/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC/SCH

Cobra Unit Coat:
DEF:32 INT+2 MND+2 CHR+2 Set: Increases MP
Lv.55 MNK/WHM/BLM/RDM/THF/DRK/BRD/RNG/SMN/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC/SCH

Cobra Unit Cuffs:
DEF:11 INT+1 MND+1 CHR+1 Evasion+5 Set: Increases MP
Lv.55 MNK/WHM/BLM/RDM/THF/DRK/BRD/RNG/SMN/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC/SCH

Cobra Unit Slops:
DEF:23 INT+1 CHR+1 Set: Increases MP
Lv.55 MNK/WHM/BLM/RDM/THF/DRK/BRD/RNG/SMN/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC/SCH

Cobra Unit Pigaches:
DEF:10 MND+2 CHR+2 Set: Increases MP
Lv.55 MNK/WHM/BLM/RDM/THF/DRK/BRD/RNG/SMN/BLU/COR/PUP/DNC/SCH

[EdgeMoragan]

Hello- I haven't seen it so I am posting it here. I have completed the Iron Ram set tonight, and the ATK bonus is....


*Drumroll*


4 ATK

QQ......... Acc I'm guessing is the same, I am selling my set as a package deal right this moment to a willing rich player.

However I did notice something interesting to note here-! And it gives me hope for the remaining armors of the other nations... The set increase was Gradual as in, once I went above a single piece, some of the ATK bonus began adding up, with no visible ATK stats from gear. (Hence 4 atk, as in, 4 slots after the first slot. 5 Total Slots filled).

This gives me some hope for Fourth gear, and possibly Cobra gear. :sandy:

[Xanthe]

Hello- I haven't seen it so I am posting it here. I have completed the Iron Ram set tonight, and the ATK bonus is....


*Drumroll*


4 ATK

QQ......... Acc I'm guessing is the same, I am selling my set as a package deal right this moment to a willing rich player.

However I did notice something interesting to note here-! And it gives me hope for the remaining armors of the other nations... The set increase was Gradual as in, once I went above a single piece, some of the ATK bonus began adding up, with no visible ATK stats from gear. (Hence 4 atk, as in, 4 slots after the first slot. 5 Total Slots filled).

This gives me some hope for Fourth gear, and possibly Cobra gear. :sandy:

So basically +1 attack(/accuracy assumed) per piece you added after the first piece?