Monster / Notorious Monster Discussion

[Max™]

Well, there are Monk orcs.

I remember one of them in Ronfaure used Hundred Fists into a fresh Seigan/Third Eye, I got like 9 Anticipates, hit twice, and then he died.

[Rocl]

So, no DAN, no MNK, just ORC. 8)

He might be named Dan, you never know.

(Learn your abbreviations. :/)

Edit: Also, has anyone seen any DNC NPCs? We've seen SCH NPCs, but...

Bastok has a whole platoon of Dancers and a Dancer General. (And a whole platoon of Scholars and a Scholar general!)

EDIT: You're bastokan and you don't even know about Sonia and the Field Musician Guard, for shame!

[fantasticdan]

Getting back to that Orc NM, it's not a DNC. I soloed it for the quest and saw the move you're thinking of, Orcish Dance. Immediately after he used it my chatlog showed him gaining the effect of haste. No status effect on me indicating a daze, just a strait up self-haste buff. I've actually seen Bakgodek use it in Campaing battles as well, and we know he's a PLD. Chalk it up to a new TP move available to Orcs in the past.

I don't see how you can determine whether or not he's a dnc... Dances are JAs, so beastmen probably wouldn't use them anyway.

[Max™]

Getting back to that Orc NM, it's not a DNC. I soloed it for the quest and saw the move you're thinking of, Orcish Dance. Immediately after he used it my chatlog showed him gaining the effect of haste. No status effect on me indicating a daze, just a strait up self-haste buff. I've actually seen Bakgodek use it in Campaing battles as well, and we know he's a PLD. Chalk it up to a new TP move available to Orcs in the past.

I don't see how you can determine whether or not he's a dnc... Dances are JAs, so beastmen probably wouldn't use them anyway.

Can't prove a negative?

He might be a Dancer, but he probably wouldn't use any Dances, so we cannot say for sure if he is a Dancer, so he might be a Thief or Corsair for all we know.

[fantasticdan]

Getting back to that Orc NM, it's not a DNC. I soloed it for the quest and saw the move you're thinking of, Orcish Dance. Immediately after he used it my chatlog showed him gaining the effect of haste. No status effect on me indicating a daze, just a strait up self-haste buff. I've actually seen Bakgodek use it in Campaing battles as well, and we know he's a PLD. Chalk it up to a new TP move available to Orcs in the past.

I don't see how you can determine whether or not he's a dnc... Dances are JAs, so beastmen probably wouldn't use them anyway.

Can't prove a negative?

He might be a Dancer, but he probably wouldn't use any Dances, so we cannot say for sure if he is a Dancer, so he might be a Thief or Corsair for all we know.

THF would be obvious with triple attack... but really, the reason people probably assume he's a dnc is because of the CS, which I did at the time as well.

[Max™]

Was just giving hypotheticals.

You can't say a four legged mammal with hooves isn't a horse because you haven't seen someone ride it.

[Gwynplaine]

. . . . . .
So anyways, about them WotG enemies...
Since the past zones have so much space, I thought maybe it would be helpful if people wanted to list mobs by zone and what their level range is. These are all the North Gustaberg [S] mobs checked using a level 40 job.

IT: All Quadav, Lesser Wivre, Most Goblins.

VT: Coppercap.

T: Maneating Hornet.

EM: Maneating Hornet.

DC: Revenant, Huge Hornet.

EP: Rock Eater, Huge Spider, Enchanted Bones.

TW: Walking Sapling, Tunnel Worm, Vulture, Ornary Sheep, Rock Lizard, Stone Eater, River Crab.

[Kaylia]

Regular Orcs get the Counterstance Dance, Orc NMs get the Haste Dance afaik

This is correct.

You will see Bakgodek and Rognoj and Proz kinda dance around in place, really funny looking, see it almost every Orc Campaign battle if you watch for it.

Best part was Rojgnoj dancing over my corpse after scroring a 1200dmg hits.

[Shabazz]

Sorry, but i thought it would be obvious to know Bakgodek is a Paladin, he even gives it away with his 2hour Invincible^^ Just added him with Beserker Dance and Orcish Counterstance, he does swing faster than his future self(not including a counter hit...)

[Wizerd]

Sorry, but i thought it would be obvious to know Bakgodek is a Paladin, he even gives it away with his 2hour Invincible^^ Just added him with Beserker Dance and Orcish Counterstance, he does swing faster than his future self(not including a counter hit...)

Hits weaker & probably has a little less HP.

[Shabazz]

I wouldn't be so sure about that ;_;
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/Sephkk2/dmg.jpg

[Kaylia]

Someone earlier said monster were losing their tp when they don't have tp regen (ie: after fire weather wear off). I pulled 2 crawler in halvung the other day, and by fire breathx2 on light day/no weater.

[Max™]

I fought the Orc NM (Fingerfilcher I believe) for the Angelstone earlier, besides owning myself with Mighty Strikes up when he popped Counterstance (hi2u306dmg counters T.T) I was able to determine a couple of things.

He doesn't cast anything in the two times that I fought him, his defense is not representative of a Pld mob, nor is he as squishy as a mage, with 2hr and WC I did a 2.2k Steel Cyclone, and followed with an 1100 Raging Rush.

I'd put him at the bottom end of Campaign Mobs, and I'd say he is War/War, as he double attacks pretty regularly but uses no other stand out abilities.

[Gobo]

Is Gradual Petrify from Peiste for NMs (received it in Campaign) only or can regular Peiste cause it?

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6...petrifygv5.png

Gave a 20 second counter. Spring Water didn't cure it. Was petrified before a WHM could try to cure it. Also caused a massive Movement speed down, running was at walking speed. Really didn't notice a Slow effect, but really wasn't paying attention.

[Kaylia]

Is Gradual Petrify from Peiste for NMs (received it in Campaign) only or can regular Peiste cause it?

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6...petrifygv5.png

Gave a 20 second counter. Spring Water didn't cure it. Was petrified before a WHM could try to cure it. Also caused a massive Movement speed down, running was at walking speed. Really didn't notice a Slow effect, but really wasn't paying attention.

They need to add "soft" in game. Maybe the tincture heal it?

[Dre]

are there any NM's that actually drop stuff that isnt for quests?
When ToAU came out SE added NM's with the version updatea month or 2 after ToAU was released so maybe they will do that again.

[Rocl]

are there any NM's that actually drop stuff that isnt for quests?
When ToAU came out SE added NM's with the version updatea month or 2 after ToAU was released so maybe they will do that again.

No NMs except those involved in quests afaik

[Kaslo]

are there any NM's that actually drop stuff that isnt for quests?
When ToAU came out SE added NM's with the version updatea month or 2 after ToAU was released so maybe they will do that again.

No NMs except those involved in quests afaik

and... SANDWORM!!!

[Kyreth]

That sounds about right. Similar to how Yagudo all get Feathered Furor(sp) (line of sight, strips random equipment slot) and Yagudo NMs get Dark Invocation (huge single-target darkness attack).

Normal Yagudo Ninja get Dark Invocation as well- had an EP one bounce it off my Stoneskin in Sarutabaruta outside of Campaign time.

[Bakthi]

They need to add "soft" in game. Maybe the tincture heal it?

They badly need the ability to use items on other players. Especially when I'm in Salvage telling people to buy the hi-pots out of my bazaar, and they just die instead. That, and Phoenix Downs please. Oh sure, they couldn't be too common, but having the option would be great (I'm sure everyone's seen a wipe where the only 2 people who didn't reraise and die again were like a MNK and a DRG).