Campaign discussion

[BRP]

It IS in their time line, but if I'm correct in that you can't refresh your 30 day duration without actually ranking up, then they HAVE to add new ranks at least within 30 days of the first person getting Holyknight.

Huh? You can refresh your duration without ranking up.

[Xanthe]

You retain your medals and the evaluation timer resets if you end your evaluation while they are pleased with your performance, but not enough to rank you up.

[Max™]

Yeah, but all of us who made a point to rank up ASAP to be "ahead of the curve" just got the curve flattened, and effectively lost 6 medals, assuming the next update is only a month from now.

[Tymon]

It IS in their time line, but if I'm correct in that you can't refresh your 30 day duration without actually ranking up, then they HAVE to add new ranks at least within 30 days of the first person getting Holyknight.

Huh? You can refresh your duration without ranking up.

Okay, that's what I wasn't sure about.

Still:

Yeah, but all of us who made a point to rank up ASAP to be "ahead of the curve" just got the curve flattened, and effectively lost 6 medals, assuming the next update is only a month from now.

[Bakthi]

I hit the same thing with Assault, though. Every time new ranks were released, we'd already have 25+ "points" built up, and be able to immediately rank up the day of the version update. I'm sure some people stayed on the "edge" of CoP missions too (I didn't, because my LS at the time was new to sky, and they didn't want to hear it...so my staff skill is still uncapped.)

However, there are still people running around who play regularly and are PSC, no sea, and/or haven't touched WotG. Every curve tends to flatten eventually (hard to get more than an A+), but that's just the way it is; SE doesn't release content on a schedule designed for those who complete things ASAP (witness ToAU missions). Yeah, some people will catch up, so if a good AN item is released with higher ranks you won't have quite the hold on the market you might have But we're still ahead of most.

[Kaslo]

Yeah, but all of us who made a point to rank up ASAP to be "ahead of the curve" just got the curve flattened, and effectively lost 6 medals, assuming the next update is only a month from now.

Just like you got flattened when you reached the limit on Assault rank ups before the next update? It's pretty damn similar and not worth crying about imo

[jibini]

Yeah, but all of us who made a point to rank up ASAP to be "ahead of the curve" just got the curve flattened, and effectively lost 6 medals, assuming the next update is only a month from now.

Just like you got flattened when you reached the limit on Assault rank ups before the next update? It's pretty damn similar and not worth crying about imo

Especially the 12/06 update, when they didn't even bother to add any assault ranks...

[Thistle]

For those with holyknight rank, did you do battles generally in one zone or all over?

To my great surprise, I was refused a promotion to holyknight ("good work, but go do more..."). I have 376,733 AN total (edit: And I bought 4 20K weapons, so my official total should be higher). I get 10K XP through Campaign three days out of five and 5K the other remaining two week days. On weekends I make 20K XP a day. So that's 80K XP in one week, with AN at about half that amount.

This last week I was going on RDM (high 60s) instead of DRK (75). Reward was the same though (RDM is easier to get reward on than DRK, even with the level difference).

I've generally stayed in Jugner, though this week I've been tossing in a few evenings in Pashhow to be social with LS people (they like that zone).

I've done an ops every day since getting Wings access (couple days after JP people got it).

Campaign battles are basically the only thing I do in game, so this came as a big surprise to me. Any ideas why it might have happened? I'm going to keep doing more battles until I can rank, but it seems silly that I can't. (A LS member does roughly a third of the battles I do, and he ranked up to holyknight...)

[Darte]

That is odd...

I wasn't really expecting to get HolyKnight right on day 5 since i've been reading that you need roughly 8K+ AN to qualify, and i've only had time for many short "bursts" of campaign, none adding up to more then 6000AN (And that is bieng extremely generous), and surprisingly i got the offer to rank up.

I did zero Campaign ops (haven't done any for a while, so my total has been stuck for about a week now @7 op credits)
But i pretty much went every where (ie: Different areas, bastok, sandoria and windurst owned areas) and campaigned.

[Khamsin]

Maybe Wings really is implemented, but you just have to work really hard to get it. Afterall, it is the final rank, the highest achievement possible in Campaign, and indeed, all of WotG. Although, even if it was implemented next update, that'd be it, anyway. There's really no reason to space it out peacemeal like Assaults when we're already at the end.

On another topic, anyone notice an issue where their pet isn't getting hit by AoE in Campaign? I was on PUP tonight, and my automaton never got hit once despite standing next to me, and me getting hit with Banishga, Diaga, Wrath of Gu'Dha, that AoE Ore move, etc. It's funny, considering that I specifically chose quadav campaigns so my automaton wouldn't get raped by aoe spam from orcs/yagudo.

[DragoonChita]

For Holyknight, I generally just do Bastokan area's since it's cost effective for both Porting and reporting to Bastok Markets [S]. As for Campaign ops... lol Bastokan forces are set on just Supply runs for now so it's kinda weak.

As for the wings I'm sure they aren't accessible yet. Someone would have gotten them by now either NA or JP, but if someone out thier does have them then I'll take this statement back. Still no Wing Rank even after 3 days of my regular eval (8 days total). Plus the patch they gave us revealed all the items avaible to "Current Campaign Ranks" therefore it kinda proves that the rank hasn't been released.

But hey here's to more battles no matter if the next update is Feb or Mar. Fyi Maximilian needs to be nerfed after the slaughter I saw last night.

[guiriguiri]

On another topic, anyone notice an issue where their pet isn't getting hit by AoE in Campaign? I was on PUP tonight, and my automaton never got hit once despite standing next to me, and me getting hit with Banishga, Diaga, Wrath of Gu'Dha, that AoE Ore move, etc. It's funny, considering that I specifically chose quadav campaigns so my automaton wouldn't get raped by aoe spam from orcs/yagudo.

That's not an "issue" as such. It was implemented in one of the emergency post-WOTG updates and can be found in the patch notes. I'm quite happy about it, it means when I take my PUP out to campaign, my auto actually stands a chance (and as such, so do I).

[Ryushii]

Maybe Wings really is implemented, but you just have to work really hard to get it. Afterall, it is the final rank, the highest achievement possible in Campaign, and indeed, all of WotG. Although, even if it was implemented next update, that'd be it, anyway. There's really no reason to space it out peacemeal like Assaults when we're already at the end.

I thought I'd point at that there is a rank above wings: Medals. So essentially, you, sir, are wrong.

[Max™]

To seriously think that you would have to go from 8k > 80k to rank up is a little ridiculous, and yeah, Emblems > Wings > Medals.

[Khamsin]

Maybe Wings really is implemented, but you just have to work really hard to get it. Afterall, it is the final rank, the highest achievement possible in Campaign, and indeed, all of WotG. Although, even if it was implemented next update, that'd be it, anyway. There's really no reason to space it out peacemeal like Assaults when we're already at the end.

I thought I'd point at that there is a rank above wings: Medals. So essentially, you, sir, are wrong.

You're right, sorry, I was thinking Wings of Altana for some reason, instead of Wings of Honor and Medal of Altana.

Still, at least we're over halfway to the end. Maybe the final two rank categories (wings and medals) will be added next update, and that'll wrap up the promotion system.

That's not an "issue" as such. It was implemented in one of the emergency post-WOTG updates and can be found in the patch notes. I'm quite happy about it, it means when I take my PUP out to campaign, my auto actually stands a chance (and as such, so do I).

Oh nice... does this apply to all pets, or just automatons?

[Thistle]

Blah blah blah, can't rank up.

How's this for odd? I have the holyknight keyitem even though I was refused three times. I have screenshots of every rank up CS (I screenshot everything), so I know I didn't somehow get it and forget it -- not that it would be easy to have forgotten it. I was due to rank up yesterday at 11 AM. I tried then, I tried last night, and I tried just now.

Very strange.

[Sargas]

That's not an "issue" as such. It was implemented in one of the emergency post-WOTG updates and can be found in the patch notes. I'm quite happy about it, it means when I take my PUP out to campaign, my auto actually stands a chance (and as such, so do I).

Oh nice... does this apply to all pets, or just automatons?

All pets. It's a side effect of the patch that stops campaign mob AoEs from hitting people without tags. Since pets don't get the tag status, they don't get hit by AoEs (unless they have hate and are the target of the move, of course).

[Kimkytaru]

Any tips on getting good exp on blm in campaign ? Got some problem capping exp as blm.

[Suiram]

Any tips on getting good exp on blm in campaign ? Got some problem capping exp as blm.

Run up to a pack of mobs, -ga them, run around aimlessly as though there was anything anyone could do to save you, and then die next to someone who won't be able to handle all the shit that links to them. Then reraise up, don't bother about raising the person you just MPKed, and repeat.

Okay, don't actually do that, I hate those idiots. But you can get decent exp just by nuking stuff and babysitting a few mobs if there's not many people/NPCs and they're on the fort. I like to nuke with my staff engaged because you seem to get the auto-attack points from doing this as well. BLM isn't going to to be making the kind of exp some who can solo melee mobs will, so you'll probably want to refresh your tags more often, maybe every wave if you're at a higher rank.

[Max™]

I've seen two or three Rdm's in Garlaige with three or four mobs slept, one hitting them/being meleed down.

Mind, he had great gear, dalm/wlegs/blahblahblah, but I have to wonder if sleeping a bunch of mobs/sleep nuking one wouldn't be the best route, rather than Tardga III > RR.