Campaign discussion

[Lordwafik]

It's been a few weeks now. I think it's safe to say the new campaign battle features from the update are inexplicably unapparent. Freelance NPC's are the only new part of Campaign that I have witnessed. The siege turrets, mantles, bell towers, and battles in beastmen cities might as well not even have been implemented. SE would do well to explain the inner workings of campaign better if there's some niche factor required. Kind of boring and bewildering.

They seem implemented fine. They said when the beastmen's technology levels are very high, the towers pop as a part of their stuff.

[Riios]

No not really, the point of the additions was to make it different than before so it wouldn't become dull. I've done a shit ton of campaign (all windy areas) since and seen: no new mobs, no belfries, no turrets. If a big part of an update is new content for campaign, I'd like to experience it a little more than 0% of the time. The same with bstman strongholds. Having to own all territories sucks. Hurray for new content that I have to wait for weeks at a time to enjoy.

[Kyreth]

I've actually seen new mobs- Windy on Ragnarok regularly gets visits from Kindred freelancers at Fort K-N...I've seen the corse, KB, Eurytos, and the gobbies all show up there. (Scarily enough, at one point all FOUR showed up during Campaign. Owies.)

But no Belfries, no Siege Towers, no Mantlets.

[Guitarman]

So I'm at Holyknight emblem, and theres no new medals implemented yet. Anyone know what i tell my evaluation person? My 30 days on this medal is almost up, do i let it go, tell her end the evaluation, or what? I'd like to stay at holyknight yet be able to rank up once new medals are implemented.

[Suiram]

So I'm at Holyknight emblem, and theres no new medals implemented yet. Anyone know what i tell my evaluation person? My 30 days on this medal is almost up, do i let it go, tell her end the evaluation, or what? I'd like to stay at holyknight yet be able to rank up once new medals are implemented.

If she says something like, "You have the highest medal we can offer, would you like to end the evaluation and maintain your honors?" then just end it, you'll keep your medal and restart the 30day timer. If she says something that indicates you'll lose it if you end now then go campaign some checking back with her periodically and hope you make enough to maintain before the 30 days runs out.

On the topic of campaign additions, I've seen a tower in Pashhow that spawned Khroma Quadavs but I still haven't seen the one for the allied side nor have I see any of the huge warmachines.

[Naver]

So I'm at Holyknight emblem, and theres no new medals implemented yet. Anyone know what i tell my evaluation person? My 30 days on this medal is almost up, do i let it go, tell her end the evaluation, or what? I'd like to stay at holyknight yet be able to rank up once new medals are implemented.

If she says something like, "You have the highest medal we can offer, would you like to end the evaluation and maintain your honors?" then just end it, you'll keep your medal and restart the 30day timer. If she says something that indicates you'll lose it if you end now then go campaign some checking back with her periodically and hope you make enough to maintain before the 30 days runs out.

On the topic of campaign additions, I've seen a tower in Pashhow that spawned Khroma Quadavs but I still haven't seen the one for the allied side nor have I see any of the huge warmachines.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1...uationText.jpg

This ^

[Guitarman]

So that'll basically keep resetting my 30 day timer then. Thanks!

And on the topic of belfry's (ies?). Pashow has them periodically on the beastmen side, but i've not seen them anywhere else and never for allied forces. Kind of strange.

[Kittyn]

It seems to me that if you're already Holy Knight status it's better to not accept your medal until almost 30 days after your previous evaluation. I'm pretty sure it requires more time to qualify for your Holy Knight Medal every 5-10 days than to do your evaluation every 25-30 days.

This is all moot of course if you're a campaign fiend.

[Tokitoki]

I think it's glitched honestly. I see that message semi-regularly for Gochakzuk as well (Bastok, Pandemonium, Recon 10), and I've never seen it for any leader of any unit of Sandy, Bastok, Windy, Quadav, Yagudo, or Kindred, nor have I seen it for any of the other Orc unit leaders.

That's why I found it odd, too. I tend to AFK in my Mog House overnight, then look through the messages to see if anything new showed up. He was the only one I could find. I thought it was odd that only one leader was defeated all night (or any other time I'm in the past).

Update on this. Just now I saw "Commanding Officer Else of the First Division Cavaliers has suffered grievous wounds on the field of battle." Recon is level 7 at the moment.

Edit: Another thing I've noticed that I haven't seen mentioned is that Hundredfists job was changed to WAR it seems. I don't have my chat filters set to see the name of the 2H when he used it but last night each time he 2Hed his attack speed stayed the same and every time he hit me it was a crit, so I think he does Mighty Strikes now.

Edit 2: Prozpuz of Prozpuz' Throatrippers was gravely wounded in the course of battle. I wonder if they did a ninja maintenance on this.

Just as a little more on this. About 2 weeks ago when I was home I was seeing these messages in every city. This was basically how I decided where to move next when the campaign map was already covered in battles. The messages are slow though (of course, damn SE and their slow status refreshing) and usually happen a couple minutes after something actually happens.

[terranova]

Exactly how do you get evaluated? I must have talked to every NPC out there, and I whore out campaign like a mad man.

[Guitarman]

There's an npc somewhere around the central area in your nation that gives you evaluations. I don't know the other cities but for bastok its annabelle. Should be someone near the C.A.

[Naver]

Exactly how do you get evaluated? I must have talked to every NPC out there, and I whore out campaign like a mad man.

Stolen information from FailWiki:

Annabelle Bastok Markets (S) (F - 8)
Alfred Southern San d'Oria (S) (K - 10)
Llewellyn Windurst Waters (S) (G - 9)

[terranova]

Thanks.

I have to wait 11 RL days for a new one >.

[Wintermute]

Is it me or as some of the NMs broken?

Keep seeing occasions where it's hanging out just outside of the Fortification and regardless of the action taken on it, it remains glued to the spot.

I've seen Three-Eye Prozpuz take a Shield Bash, Nuke, Ranged Attack, and a Slugshot and not even move.
That was in Vunkerl, happened again with Bootlix and all his Gobbie pals in Jugner.

Though if you run into melee range it'll attack as if it was Bound or some such, but it'll never Ranged Attack.

Anyone else seeing this?

[Bakthi]

I've only seen it in Vunkerl, same behaviour you described, but I never go to Jugner. This BLU and I (on BRD/WHM) had to walk out to Three-Eyed and gradually whittle him down; the BLU would whack him with spells, and I'd run in and melee until he got a couple of hits in past my Stoneskin, then retreat. He stayed glued to the spot until he died; thankfully a PLD arrived eventually to help. If someone could have held hate out of range, it would have been way too easy.

[Jones]

Is it me or as some of the NMs broken?

Keep seeing occasions where it's hanging out just outside of the Fortification and regardless of the action taken on it, it remains glued to the spot.

I've seen Three-Eye Prozpuz take a Shield Bash, Nuke, Ranged Attack, and a Slugshot and not even move.
That was in Vunkerl, happened again with Bootlix and all his Gobbie pals in Jugner.

Though if you run into melee range it'll attack as if it was Bound or some such, but it'll never Ranged Attack.

Anyone else seeing this?

Binding Tube? I've seen this too, but just assumed someone used a tube on it. Is the binding tube's bind supposed to break like normal bind, or does it stick for a set time?

[LD]

I'm starting to think fortifications control how fast you can gain influence. This may seem kind of obvious, but I think it affects more than just what is gained by damaging the structure. I noticed the ~150 areas always seem to be in flux, but the ~300s never seem to waver. Now that non-city areas have also hit 300, you can't say its because of a lack of activity anymore. It could be that the influence gained by killing enemy mobs (or whatever affects influence) correlates to the current fort level. This explains how the enemy can wail on the fortification for a long while, but the influence doesn't change much. Not to say damaging the fort doesn't affect influence directly, but I think it might mean to strike a balance between sabotage and direct confrontation. You'll be accomplishing something either way, but you'll eventually have to kill the enemy.

[Wintermute]

Anyone notice any changes after last update?

Bagodek is being more of a cunt than ususal and Prozpuz was using Bindga, which I've not seen from him before.

EDIT:
Gutrenders using Flash, seem to be PLD now, think they were DRK earlier?
One-Eyed Gwajoj now PLD? Using Invincible. Thought he was DRK?

Re-EDIT:
Nvm, looks like they always did that. Guess SE fixed the NMs up instead of having them just stare at you.

[Geostigma]

Has anyone here had any experiences with Shadowhand? She basically just soloed an entire bastok army before 2 more appeared and finally overwealmed her. She basically just spammed staff WS after WS and skillchained herself over and over then casted sleepga and thundaga 3 and repeated the process.

[Kkel]

Has anyone here had any experiences with Shadowhand? She basically just soloed an entire bastok army before 2 more appeared and finally overwealmed her. She basically just spammed staff WS after WS and skillchained herself over and over then casted sleepga and thundaga 3 and repeated the process.

Sounds like a pretty par-for-the-course Shadowhand. She's a beast.