Campaign discussion

[Gwynplaine]

This week most nations regained some zones on my server.
beastmen 13, 5, 2, 1
Bastok continues to suck a nard. Although North Gustaburg fort being extremely far to walk to as opposed to Ronf/Saruta doesn't help. And Venomtail is a huge asshole to kill. If the npc's are given little or no support they always seem to lose, simply because of all the nuke-ga and fast casting from the NM. Invincible Sheild also has patently retarded A.I. Just when he's losing a fight to one mob, he gets bored and targets a new one to kill himself faster. For some reason too there are people who will always wait right at the Markets entrance. Every time the mobs enter it's a swift lesson in natural selection, but at least it's entertaining. Honestly though I'm sick of city campaign. It was neat at first, but now I just want quick travel and Ops back.

[6souls]

This week most nations regained some zones on my server.
13, 5, 2, 1
Bastok continues to suck a nard.

looks like they control 14 zones on your server.

[Aerin]

This week most nations regained some zones on my server.
13, 5, 2, 1
Bastok continues to suck a nard.

looks like they control 14 zones on your server.

Bastok ftw. Venomtail and Herohunter are both horrible. When Herohunter is the only mob left in the city and everyone gathers to kill him, just wait a minute and half of all those people will be dead.

[Max™]

God Herohunter is awesome.

Shadowhand and him hit together the other day.


Oh wait, did I say awesome? I meant THE MOTHERFUCKING HOLOCAUST!

[Gwynplaine]

You were correct. Warmachine used to be my favorite destroyer of worlds, but I think it has been surpassed by Shadowhand now. Anywhere she is, a good time is sure to follow. Herohunter (and most NM's) can be relatively easily kited using grav/bind/damage gear, and he stops constantly to use his ore toss move. Shadowhand doesn't stop for much though, and once she can reach you you're doomed. Fun though, even when you're being eviscerated by 'em.

This week most nations regained some zones on my server.
13, 5, 2, 1
Bastok continues to suck a nard.

looks like they control 14 zones on your server.

It's right, maybe you forgot to count a city or something.

[Sagacious Sundi]

This week most nations regained some zones on my server.
13, 5, 2, 1
Bastok continues to suck a nard.

looks like they control 14 zones on your server.

It's right, maybe you forgot to count a city or something.

I think it was a joke on how there's 2 Bastok flags, because they both come out as : bflag :.

[Wootles]

Venomtail is a joke. Sure, the ga3's are painful, as is his 80hp/tic enpoison, but he's so easily kited.

Shadowhand, however, is up there. A cheap bastard that spams AoE WS and sleepga + ele -ga3. Impossible to kite since she likes to chase you down and down you with a couple of retributions. Not to mention her minions are one of the more annoying ones to fight (when I go as DNC). I would like to say that Pashhow's Gi'Ghi Rockchopper can compete, with petrifications all around, especially when his pets are around.

[Lordwafik]

I get annoyed @ SE for making Bastok obnoxiously unnatractive for people to campaign in / with.

Our NPCs are awesome, yes, however all the gear that's useful is the Iron Ram gear (San d'Oria) , the Cobra Unit gear (Windurst). Nothing useful from bastok AN whatsoever. To top it off, the missions were the most boring of the three. SE just hates bastok

[Melios]

I get annoyed @ SE for making Bastok obnoxiously unnatractive for people to campaign in / with.

Our NPCs are awesome, yes, however all the gear that's useful is the Iron Ram gear (San d'Oria) , the Cobra Unit gear (Windurst). Nothing useful from bastok AN whatsoever. To top it off, the missions were the most boring of the three. SE just hates bastok

Now that I have my SCH AF done, there's almost literally no reason to go to Bastok Markets (S) anymore. Not to mention, I detest the fluorescent nighttime glow in North Gustaberg (S); there must be radioactive ore in the region.......

[Lordwafik]

Oops! Forgot to add how annoying it is to get to bastok itself from the teleport that dumps you down below on the other side of the damned map, in comparison to the small tiny stroll from Ronf/Saruta to their cities.

Oh also to add, the "Bastok region" of sandworm is none other than the oh so saught after GUIVRE. Yeah, Sandy line gets KA with V.belt/D.cloth, windy gets serket with Vclaw/Serket ring, bastok gets... Guivre's skull.

SE hates bastok >:

[Max™]

>.> For the brief period in between dinging into lvl 74~75 Str gear, the Fourth Str gear is awesome.

The legs are pretty sweet if you have shit luck getting one of the higher Str alternatives.

I personally am loving this, people keep bitching "I want the battles to stop."

GO SOMEWHERE ELSE THEN!

I fondly remember the crazy battles that happened the first few hours WoTG went live, some of the super glitched neverending battles, and having a chance to pop on and 95% of the time jump into a battle ROCKS!

City campaign is seriously the best campaigning ever, fuck rolanberry, fuck anywhere that it goes good til the NPC deathsquads rape everything, in Markets you pray for the NPC's to show up so you can kite the mobs to them when four squads pop at once and EVERYFUCKINGBODY hits the dirt in 30 seconds.

Oh hey guys, Di'Dha, Hundredfist, Shadowhorn, Shadowhand, and a Kaiser behemoth just showed up, have we killed Raigegue yet? What? Shadowfang popped up too? Boodlix as well?

Fuckin' hearty!

[Lordwafik]

I agree city campaign are awesomely epic, but I would love if they changed these things :

- Teleporting to bastok puts you close to the city, not the other side of the map

- Key NPCs don't depop. If they don't offer services, then they better fight amongst us since there's no excuse!

[Gwynplaine]

Not only that but there's a decent chance that Bastok has to do a little better if you ever want to have that stupid Balestarius you keep flapping gum about :wink:

[Dawezy]

Got around 4 merits from molesting Fort-Fundungo for the majority of Sunday eve, to gain influence for the conquest tally. Won a last second battle which secure the Fort for Windurst again.. no more town battles finally, much relief. All the other zones are still occupied but the exp is fucking INSANE when the npcs spawn to defend the Forts, regularly seeing 2~3k a fight..

Merit party? lol


On and unrelated note, Kirin is a stingy snot. Dorps sucked today ;_;

[Max™]

Eh, I've come to accept that either you have to own the beastmen stronghold, or be max rank to get the OP, so it will be a while.

NPC's shouldn't depop though, Sigil/Warper at least.

[Max™]

So yeah, I love City Campaigns.

Bo'Dho, De'Vyu, Headhunter, are zerging us...

Shadowfang runs in, me and my bud get dark eles on us, die in a corner.

Watch the battle go for a while, get a raise for me, I heal up, find a raise for him (so I think) and then Shadowhand runs in, with bastardly perfect comedic timing, utterly pwns my new raise and says "HAY GUYZ, I HERD U LIKE BUTTSECHZ!"

Raise gets up, comes to us, casts reraise, heals mp...

Stands up, starts to raise my friend, and a Woundpatcher raises him instead right then.

Best shit ever, seriously, I hope it never ends.

1820 for laughing my ass off and laying there dead for 5 minutes between beating up some quad grunts and the last few mobs.

[Dawezy]

3hour+ (used Manafont twice) battle in Fort-Fundungo this evening, on my BLM75 and I only got 2865* exp =\
In the process before I left, we managed our way through 14 waves of Yagudo, with Shadowhand/Fang making a cameo.
Kaiser Behemoth spawned twice, and 3 Turrets were summoned by Pilgrims when they managed to get past us.

On Wings of Integrity too.

Thought the cap for the new medal was like, 5000exp+?

*got 3200~ exp on SAM75 yesterday in West Saruta, and the battle was 30 mins tops.

[Max™]

Damage Dealt, Damage Taken, Damage Cured
JA use categories
Self Buffs
Other Buffs
Debuffs
Cures (besides the amount cured)

Spell cast categories
Self Buffs
Other Buffs
Debuffs
Raises
Cures (besides the amount cured)

Sure there are more little details, but those are the big things to keep in mind.

Your Sam took a lot more damage than your Blm did, I'm fairly sure.

On Blm you're fighting against the damage dealt, some self buff, and probably few other category limits.

They seem to hit a point where the returns dramatically slow down, but it FEELS to me like 1000/1000/1000 is roughly the max you'll get per damage category, with the other 2000 possible being from JA use/Spells Cast/Raises, and the various points you get for actually using an ability, getting initial aggro, how long you had aggro (it seems that taking AoE damage vs actually holding hate has a different reward) and so on.

I go War/Dnc and for one good wave it is strange for me to get under 1500, in a long battle I always get up in the 2200-2700 range due to pushing up against the dealt/taken/cured buffers, and spamming JA's constantly.

If you only do one specific thing most of the time, you'll want to find out the caps for them and refresh tags periodically.

[Dawezy]

Yeah, I'm over it~ just felt like I was jacked around.

Went back on SAM, done battles on/off for rest of evening today.. SAM/RNG with melee/Sidewinder spam before I ran out of ammo (1 1/2 hours? tops), I got 3321 exp off first trading of Tags.. second trade before I thought I was gonna d/c (about an hour), about 1200~ exp with no ammo and normal WS's. Next set of tags (2 or so hours worth) saw me 1915 exp from melee/ws, no moar ammo for that either.

So random~

Was killed atleast 5~10 times between each gap of tags too, lol.

[Gwynplaine]

Are the Allied Armored Belfry new? I'm not sure if they've been around since the older update or if they were ninja'd into this last one. Either way I haven't seen them but I'm curious what they're like. They're listed in dats with Royal Esquire x 6, 1st Legion Mercenary x 6, or Cardian Prototype x 6 which seem to spawn from them.

Note that it is called "armored" and not the regular "Allied Belfry" which calls different troops: Royal Banneret x 6, 1st Legion Aidman x 6, or Wildcat Vanguard x 6

Edit: They are definitely from the older update. I checked the wiki page history date. Wish there was some way of knowing how to utilize them, they seem like they would be helpful