Dancer discussion

[Rowe]

Sounds to me DNC could be a pretty good Kiter.

[safer]

how do you get tp without hitting the mob

(/sam can only go so far)

[Amanada]

21 freaking hours from 66 to 75. That's some good consistent zombie partying right there. <_<

/sigh

So much a waste; ; The new jobs are not even properly tested and adjusted.

(2nd post ever... Weeee)

[Varg]

21 freaking hours from 66 to 75. That's some good consistent zombie partying right there. <_<

/sigh

So much a waste; ; The new jobs are not even properly tested and adjusted.

(2nd post ever... Weeee)

There is always a post like this when people speed through, I understand your opinion and for myself, I do agree to an extent, but their goals are clearly not the same as yours so its not really a waste to the individuals who achieved it.

As for waiting to properly test and adjust the jobs... If I were to have followed that line of thought, I wouldn't have puppetmaster at 75, in fact it would still be at level 1.

[Amanada]

Wild Flourish -> Dancing Edge = Scission

So Flourish is basically a WS?

There is always a post like this when people speed through, I understand your opinion and for myself, I do agree to an extent, but their goals are clearly not the same as yours so its not really a waste to the individuals who achieved it.

As for waiting to properly test and adjust the jobs... If I were to have followed that line of thought, I wouldn't have puppetmaster at 75, in fact it would still be at level 1.

I would at least wait for the AF before passing the 60. The AF looks cute anyway for me

[Falisa]

Wild Flourish -> Dancing Edge = Scission

So Flourish is basically a WS?

Wild Flourish starts a skillchain

[Koga]

Wild Flourish -> Dancing Edge = Scission

So Flourish is basically a WS?

Wild Flourish starts a skillchain

Think Chain Affinity for Dancer.

[Judai]

21 freaking hours from 66 to 75. That's some good consistent zombie partying right there. <_<

/sigh

So much a waste; ; The new jobs are not even properly tested and adjusted.

(2nd post ever... Weeee)

I don't see the thinking here. If anything, getting to 75 faster means you can test things better. Not only that, who is to say they didn't work on things while they exp'd? I'm sure most of the people leveling the job now are testing things as they exp and level up. The only way to really learn a job is to level it. If talking about AF, most jobs don't even use their AF or only use 1-2 pieces.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Note to self: Never level DNC on Imps

[Anakron]

From what I've seen (eye-balling so not very scientific), I've noticed that crits (about 2x normal hit) don't always drain more than normal hits, and when they do, it's usually within a few points, so that's a little more evidence that it's not (entirely) damage-related.

[Amanada]

Wild Flourish starts a skillchain

Think Chain Affinity for Dancer.

May be I am not understanding what exactly you meant. Even for Chain Affinity (if I not mistaken) is to combine two BLU spell or a WS to BLU spell to work. So would not:

Wild Flourish -> Dancing Edge = Scission

still require an extra WS of something to work?

/confused

(Literally, what does preparing a target to SC means exactly?)

[Judai]

Think of Wild Flourish as the opening WS that does no damage and when you follow with your own WS it creates a SC based on the ending WSs properties.

[Amanada]

Think of Wild Flourish as the opening WS that does no damage and when you follow with your own WS it creates a SC based on the ending WSs properties.

That makes more sense now. If DNC can use Shark Bite (does anyone check that yet?), then they can basically solo a level 2 SC then...

Also does anyone also checked if DNC is B+/B/B- in dagger?

[Eaglestrike]

Think of Wild Flourish as the opening WS that does no damage and when you follow with your own WS it creates a SC based on the ending WSs properties.

That makes more sense now. If DNC can use Shark Bite (does anyone check that yet?), then they can basically solo a level 2 SC then...

Also does anyone also checked if DNC is B+/B/B- in dagger?

I don't know but I bet those people who are 75 could tell you.

[Anakron]

If DNC can use Shark Bite (does anyone check that yet?), then they can basically solo a level 2 SC then...

With a B in dagger, I would assume they get Evisceration, in which case they would be able to solo at least Gravitation, which I guess is fairly useless.

I'm really curious how often endgame DNCs will actually use WSs, though. With cures costing over 50TP, Haste Samba at 35TP, and Steps at 10TP each, I don't see much room for WSs.

[Kurokikaze]

If DNC can use Shark Bite (does anyone check that yet?), then they can basically solo a level 2 SC then...

With a B in dagger, I would assume they get Evisceration, in which case they would be able to solo at least Gravitation, which I guess is fairly useless.

I'm really curious how often endgame DNCs will actually use WSs, though. With cures costing over 50TP, Haste Samba at 35TP, and Steps at 10TP each, I don't see much room for WSs.

Yeah. Reverse Samba needs to give more TP/step. :/

[Anakron]

If DNC can use Shark Bite (does anyone check that yet?), then they can basically solo a level 2 SC then...

With a B in dagger, I would assume they get Evisceration, in which case they would be able to solo at least Gravitation, which I guess is fairly useless.

I'm really curious how often endgame DNCs will actually use WSs, though. With cures costing over 50TP, Haste Samba at 35TP, and Steps at 10TP each, I don't see much room for WSs.

Yeah. Reverse Samba needs to give more TP/step. :/

I think the rate is really not too bad as it is, but the problem is that it'll share recast with the other 2 Flourish IIs, and Building or Wild Flourish will probably see more use out of the 3 in a party/alliance environment. From the description, it seems that you can set up SCs for other people (i.e. Wild Flourish > Party/Alliance Member WS = SC), can anybody confirm this?

[Shadowhusky]

If DNC can use Shark Bite (does anyone check that yet?), then they can basically solo a level 2 SC then...

With a B in dagger, I would assume they get Evisceration, in which case they would be able to solo at least Gravitation, which I guess is fairly useless.

I'm really curious how often endgame DNCs will actually use WSs, though. With cures costing over 50TP, Haste Samba at 35TP, and Steps at 10TP each, I don't see much room for WSs.

I don't remember where, but it's been stated that DNC get's Evisceration. Highly doubt on shark bite though.

[Judai]

If DNC can use Shark Bite (does anyone check that yet?), then they can basically solo a level 2 SC then...

With a B in dagger, I would assume they get Evisceration, in which case they would be able to solo at least Gravitation, which I guess is fairly useless.

I'm really curious how often endgame DNCs will actually use WSs, though. With cures costing over 50TP, Haste Samba at 35TP, and Steps at 10TP each, I don't see much room for WSs.

I don't remember where, but it's been stated that DNC get's Evisceration. Highly doubt on shark bite though.

Not that it can be relied on but a DNC in one of the videos used Evis.

[Naphtali]

They do get Shark Bite I think.