Dancer discussion

[Koeta]

Anyone else 40+ feel like they evade a bit more ?
i swear im starting to think DNC gets Evasion Bonus II, i was evading IT Hell bats and Goblins pretty good with like +2 evasion in gear on (+3 mantle +3 gloves -4 earrings) just had to keep the evasion down move off.

[Koyangi]

When pulling some Puk's as 60dnc/nin (puller dc'd) I evaded on avg 50% as it was brought to camp, usually still had 1-2 shadows up, a few pulls it would miss 4 in a row. SH+1, nomads, battle gloves, and emp pin for evasion, squid+1 for food.

[Max™]

Just to add, if noone else has noticed, this makes an awesome low man melee sub.

As an example, I give you, WARDANCER

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3...074150aed4.jpg

Using this for sky farming/sea farming/assaults/campaign, etc once I get it to 37 til I can get it leveled up the rest of the way.

[Seigfried Of Pandy]

you look like elton john

[Max™]

you look like elton john

I noticed the hilarious similarity too, and it makes me laugh like a dolt.

[Lilswitche]

I'm not even leveling Dancer, but I thought I would post this up to tingle some people's curiosity. Wild Flourish can make 2nd lvl Skillchains.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...202_192601.png

I'm also being told from another party that Wild Flourish -> Sturmwind = Fragmentation.

[Beckwin]

whoa that's pretty kewl. I may have not been following the thread close, but I didn't know other party members could "close" off of wild flourish.

[Lordwafik]

Any dancer on asura wanna test with mercy stroke when I get home from work? (approx 6h from now). Haven't seen anyone test with a relic, wondering if it'll make darkness.

[Zilong]

Sorry if this has already been answered, but do healing waltz clears multiple status one by one like erase, or do they clear them all at once like vicar drinks/remedy?

[Lilswitche]

Sorry if this has already been answered, but do healing waltz clears multiple status one by one like erase, or do they clear them all at once like vicar drinks/remedy?

One by one.

[Tulun]

Still no word on whether or not haste samba is uncapped?

I would be very curious to hear the answer to this......

If Haste Samba especially stacks with Haste + March, even at 5%, it would give drks a theoretical 98.3% reduction.

That would be so batshit crazy...

About a 4x increase in damage. (Delays with B.Z. & the -2% offhand: 470 normal, 31.51 with 93.3%, 7.9968 with 98.8%)

Double attack off grip would be better, no? Rune Chopper has no natural proc.

What's the delay difference in the end?

Either way.. jesus tap dancing christ 4x better???

[Max™]

Wild Flourish > Fusion Priority WS > Fusion Light Closer=mirrored 3 Man light?

I'm still dying to see if this works out.

[Lordwafik]

Wild Flourish > Mercy Stroke = nothing .

Thanks for helping test it Chichicha

[Max™]

Wild Flourish > Mercy Stroke = nothing .

Thanks for helping test it Chichicha

That is REALLY odd, but kind of makes sense given the weird SC properties of relic WSes.

Since you're trying to close half of Darkness+Double Darkness (right?), maybe the game doesn't know what effect to give without an opener.

Hmmm...doesn't WF > EV do Compression? (gotta check, don't see the post yet) maybe have them do a WV > EV or SB to Mercy?

[Lordwafik]

I could only test it quick as I'm about to do something else, but if I'm done and they're online / not in party i'll go back and test a bit with them.

Mercy stroke doesn't carry any level 1 properties, it can do gravitation and darkness only.

[Max™]

lol, I did a ninjafied edit in there, and yeah that confirms what I was thinking.

I'll do a lot of testing on it whenever I get Dnc up, as I still dig making SC's after all this time, but surely it will have been worked out before then. Only 16 Dnc atm.

[chichicha]

Lordwafik, Thanks for testing
I didn't read my text, I am not sure if I missed my Flourish ^.^
If w/e I am not in party or any lolevents I am taking part, you can always look me up for any test you can think off
More than happy to discover the potential of DNC with people.

Demostrate one solo method on dmg (which I am pretty happy with - taru is always happy with tiny dmg they have done ^.^)
At DNC60/NIN30

Picture attached, hope it tells - Time stamp included.
Have fun, all DNC

p.s.
Test WS - SC
WF -> Evisceration -> Transfixion
WF -> Dancing Edge -> Scission
WF -> Shark Bite -> Dum dum dum ! Nothing (Tried twice)
WF -> Savage Blade -> Scission
WF -> Gust Slash -> Detonation
WF -> Rampage -> Scission

[Max™]

That is pretty sweet, but whats this about tarus doing tiny damage? >.>



<Wardancer>

So I've been thinking about subs, Dnc/Drg was interesting since it gives the 5%/6% Haste at 30, 10% with Swift Belt, 15% with Haste Samba (effectively) which doesn't sound like anything to scoff at, and hey free attacks to get a bit more TP. Dnc/War gives a nice balance of Chr/Vit for self curing at early solo, Dnc/Nin is good for being cured by it's Chr is kind of low.

Dnc/Thf gives +5 Dagger skill at 30 from the belt, and +2 loldex on ear, and SA for landing Steps/etc.

Dnc/Sam has the obvious store tp/meditate, but not sure how much store TP it takes for dagger hits to lose a round to 100, and even more interestingly, since you only need 10-30% for most dances, how much it can reduce the time needed for those.

[Xanthe]

That is pretty sweet, but whats this about tarus doing tiny damage? >.>



<Wardancer>

So I've been thinking about subs, Dnc/Drg was interesting since it gives the 5%/6% Haste at 30, 10% with Swift Belt, 15% with Haste Samba (effectively) which doesn't sound like anything to scoff at, and hey free attacks to get a bit more TP. Dnc/War gives a nice balance of Chr/Vit for self curing at early solo, Dnc/Nin is good for being cured by it's Chr is kind of low.

Dnc/Thf gives +5 Dagger skill at 30 from the belt, and +2 loldex on ear, and SA for landing Steps/etc.

Dnc/Sam has the obvious store tp/meditate, but not sure how much store TP it takes for dagger hits to lose a round to 100, and even more interestingly, since you only need 10-30% for most dances, how much it can reduce the time needed for those.

I wouldn't go DNC/DRG. DNC/NIN will have a 10% delay reduction at 20 and you also get the added benefit from the offhand weapon stats. Wouldn't even consider /SAM until 60+, but I doubt I'd use it even then except situationally. DNC/THF *maybe* from 30-40, but DNC/NIN with Tilt belt at 40 would be better and I still would be hard-pressed to give up those offhand stats.

[chichicha]

honestly, I haven't been thinking much about endgame/ merit party yet.

But, so far, from DNC21 till DNC60, I didn't suffer with not getting enough TP.
Especially, after DNC40, I got TP fairly quick. You will love Reverse Flourish (RF) so much. (i.e. Invest 20 TP on 2 Steps, RF and you get back 46TP)
And bare in mind, while you are doing all these, both of your hands are still swing your daggers still.



Just in my opinion, after I see that how WF is working. (Just duo'd with my BST on a bit of his empress band.)
DNC can do good for party to kill quick, imo.
Two Steps -> you can open 2 x SC for ppl in 30 sec.

We killed birds, I first do my self-sc (like I posted before), then WF again for BST to Rampage. Bird's HP dropped significantly quick to less than 5% ^.^

p.s. Confirmed - Violent Flourish (Stun), as long as you don't miss, you get TP. I got 5 TP from my dagger Flourish. Not sure about other weapons.