Dancer discussion

[Wizerd]

I went to Dynamis a few time with my DNC75.

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Not sure if that's being one of the work, but we cleared the entired zoned with 20 to 30 mins left. (Probably this is also my dynamis ls is impossible to gauge ! )

Third runs - Xarcabard ... I am still lotting my THF hands, so I didn't go DNC, but THF. Unfortunately (luckily), I won my hands. So, I won't be going as any other jobs except THF to dynamis, unless we have too much TH4...

Cheers!

20-30min left in Bastok is pretty normal for a skilled linkshell without being undermanned. It's still a good accomplishment, especially if you can do it regularly.

Grats on the THF hands, but why would you need to go THF every time? Remember, once a THF touches a mob, it has Treasure Hunter, so you only need 1 TH4 in the run to work efficiently. 2 if the dude AFKs a lot or engages slowly.

[Max™]

War/Dnc, dungeon zones, soloing lesser campaign mobs, I kill fast enough to drop a couple of mobs per wave myself, I straight up blood tank them so I get the holy trifecta of damage in campaign.

Deal it, Take it, Fix it, win.

Copper Emblem of Service doesn't hurt.

1500-1800 for a single wave, 2k+ easy for a couple of waves, gotten 3330 as my highest for a multi wave one.

Generally the fights come fast, and I can beat yagudos down into the ground at a good pace by myself.

I can use Warrior's charge every 10 minutes, I can generally get through two or three mobs per WC. If I had a constant stream of Campaign mobs, I bet I could do 8 or 9 per hour, but it usually winds up being 3 or 4 per hour solo. 1300-1500 per mob normally, thus 5-6k/hour.

[kenshyn]

Anyone try out /drk at 65 I want to play with drain samba III + souleater + Last resort + Building Flourish + dancing edge for fun. My mini dancer zerg machine lol. Death can I have it hehehe.........

[Koyangi]

Did some campaigning as mnk/dnc and I was able to cap at 5 finishing move charges, I heard people say subbed gave you 3, maybe it's because I have it at 75? This could be just like how /bst checks main bst for charm.

[Max™]

Did some campaigning as mnk/dnc and I was able to cap at 5 finishing move charges, I heard people say subbed gave you 3, maybe it's because I have it at 75? This could be just like how /bst checks main bst for charm.

I cap at 5 charges as War/Dnc, even back when my /Dnc was only lvl 30, but I spend more charges to use a FM.

[Koyangi]

Oh, that's what it was. :rocl:

[Tsutsumiko]

Anyone try out /drk at 65 I want to play with drain samba III + souleater + Last resort + Building Flourish + dancing edge for fun. My mini dancer zerg machine lol. Death can I have it hehehe.........

This actually sounds like quite a lot of fun. I'll get back to you on this one as soon as I get DNC to 65 -.-;; (Party invites have come to a SCREECHING halt recently. The whole like 55~70 range of people seems to be missing on my server.)

[kenshyn]

Did some campaigning as mnk/dnc and I was able to cap at 5 finishing move charges, I heard people say subbed gave you 3, maybe it's because I have it at 75? This could be just like how /bst checks main bst for charm.

I cap at 5 charges as War/Dnc, even back when my /Dnc was only lvl 30, but I spend more charges to use a FM.

Yep the nerf is that as /dnc each step = 1 Fm not 2.

[VZX]

Anyone done any test on Building Flourish yet?

here's my (very small) data

64 DNC/THF
Darksteel kukri +1 (D:23)
capped fSTR:10
base damage:33

SA BF(3FM) Wasp sting
Wild Rabbit
93
95
100
99

crit:
99 - tunnel worm
98 - pugil
100 - forest hare
128 - ding bats
102 - scarab beetles
94 - orcish fodder
96 - wild rabbit

It seems that BF doesn't add anything on base damage like SATA on THF main, but getting 800 occasionally on colibri on full hit DE is weird

[Zinnashin]

Only thing I've noticed about Building Flourish is that it works on non elemental properties WSs like Berserk and unlike SA/TA.

Otherwise, it seems the damage increase is based on your knife/Kurki base damage but still random in how much it adds to it.

[Mikayla]

Can't say I've done any comprehensive testing or anything, but I could look into it. From everything I've seen, Building Flourish doesn't give a static damage boost or anything, and it seems to vary with how many FMs you put into it (probably pretty obvious), but I can try to do some testing as soon as I get the chance to log on.

[blister1]

Has anyone tried out /War post 40 with Pld tanks? I had a pt in CN the other day and had virtually no use for /Nin other than dual wielding (went through about 20 pieces of shihei in 2 hours)

I have 8 dagger merits and usually eat meat FWIW (currently 44)

[Kenji]

So the overall impression I get about Dancer, is that it's mostly fine. The only remaining issues would be:

Gear:
Desire to wear homan and/or skadi? A stronger preference for homam over skadi? Perhaps some specific daggers?

Endgame:
Ability to build TP on HNM without feeding the mob too much TP, and contribute in a useful manner?

[Bakthi]

Desire to wear homan and/or skadi? A stronger preference for homam over skadi?

Usukane wouldn't suck either. It has Haste, Store TP, acc, and some Subtle Blow, and SE doesn't have to pee themselves about a job with a +movement JA getting +movement gear that way.

[kenshyn]

Anyone try out /drk at 65 I want to play with drain samba III + souleater + Last resort + Building Flourish + dancing edge for fun. My mini dancer zerg machine lol. Death can I have it hehehe.........

This actually sounds like quite a lot of fun. I'll get back to you on this one as soon as I get DNC to 65 -.-;; (Party invites have come to a SCREECHING halt recently. The whole like 55~70 range of people seems to be missing on my server.)

I went as 64 dnc/32 Drk to campaign and it was mad fun to say the least damage went up nicely and I was able to easily hit the xp cap I think the big problem of course was staying alive lol. I need to make a macro that after I weapon skill I do a step then reverse flourish and then heal myself my hp drop like a rock. Now with drain samba III I cant wait to try it again hehehehe.....

[Meiyu]

Did some campaigning as mnk/dnc and I was able to cap at 5 finishing move charges, I heard people say subbed gave you 3, maybe it's because I have it at 75? This could be just like how /bst checks main bst for charm.

I cap at 5 charges as War/Dnc, even back when my /Dnc was only lvl 30, but I spend more charges to use a FM.

Yep the nerf is that as /dnc each step = 1 Fm not 2.

You know, this gets me wondering. This weekend I pted as DNC for the first time in Campaign (lvl 66). All throughout my leveling, I get 2 FM for doing Lethargic Daze. During Campaign, *sometimes* I would only get 1. I wonder if this has something to do with other people on the same mob who are /DNC and trying to land Daze also?

Any ideas? It baffled me.

[Kimkytaru]

I wonder, what would be the role of a Dancer in dynamis ? We just got one in our ls and yesterday we did jeuno and what I can say, what a let down, didnt really notice what she was doing but I think it was mostly haste samba, I took her in the DD pt and she really did a sucky job I think. Would like some idea on how to improve, what should they cast, what would be the best pt to get a dnc in.

I was really expecting something better to be honest, specialy since I love to do campaign with mnk/dnc.

[ronin sparthos]

Desire to wear homan and/or skadi? A stronger preference for homam over skadi?

Usukane wouldn't suck either. It has Haste, Store TP, acc, and some Subtle Blow, and SE doesn't have to pee themselves about a job with a +movement JA getting +movement gear that way.

Dancer runs along the lines of Thief in terms of gear so the more logical choice if Dancer gets Salvage armor at all would be Skadi since Usukane is for jobs that practice 'martial arts' or what not

Dancer getting homam would be a but i doubt that will happen because the armor would be amazing for it. (For some reason SE loves the aura of caution :3)

Id say Dancer has Skadi, promising AF pieces and JSE in its future (if SE is merciful with the JSE)

[kenshyn]

Did some campaigning as mnk/dnc and I was able to cap at 5 finishing move charges, I heard people say subbed gave you 3, maybe it's because I have it at 75? This could be just like how /bst checks main bst for charm.

I cap at 5 charges as War/Dnc, even back when my /Dnc was only lvl 30, but I spend more charges to use a FM.

Yep the nerf is that as /dnc each step = 1 Fm not 2.

You know, this gets me wondering. This weekend I pted as DNC for the first time in Campaign (lvl 66). All throughout my leveling, I get 2 FM for doing Lethargic Daze. During Campaign, *sometimes* I would only get 1. I wonder if this has something to do with other people on the same mob who are /DNC and trying to land Daze also?

Any ideas? It baffled me.

Basically another dancer or /dnc used the same move once the mob is at level 5 only 1 fm will be granted per step of the same type. so if box step is lvl 5 and u use it again you will get 1 fm not 2.....

[Meiyu]

Did some campaigning as mnk/dnc and I was able to cap at 5 finishing move charges, I heard people say subbed gave you 3, maybe it's because I have it at 75? This could be just like how /bst checks main bst for charm.

I cap at 5 charges as War/Dnc, even back when my /Dnc was only lvl 30, but I spend more charges to use a FM.

Yep the nerf is that as /dnc each step = 1 Fm not 2.

You know, this gets me wondering. This weekend I pted as DNC for the first time in Campaign (lvl 66). All throughout my leveling, I get 2 FM for doing Lethargic Daze. During Campaign, *sometimes* I would only get 1. I wonder if this has something to do with other people on the same mob who are /DNC and trying to land Daze also?

Any ideas? It baffled me.

Basically another dancer or /dnc used the same move once the mob is at level 5 only 1 fm will be granted per step of the same type. so if box step is lvl 5 and u use it again you will get 1 fm not 2.....

Ahh good to know, thanks