Dancer discussion

[Koeta]

Anyone else 40+ feel like they evade a bit more ?
i swear im starting to think DNC gets Evasion Bonus II, i was evading IT Hell bats and Goblins pretty good with like +2 evasion in gear on (+3 mantle +3 gloves -4 earrings) just had to keep the evasion down move off.

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Online D, an offshoot of Dengeki dedicated to Online games had a huge guide for Wings of the Goddess. Theres a lot of stuff that we have all figured out by now, and you can find detailed in the WotG subforum. It is just organized nicely with charts and pictures and stuff.

Dancer

Evasion Bonus
I @ 15
II @ 45
III @ 75

Accuracy Bonus
I???30
II @ 60

Subtle Blow
I @ 25
II @ 45
III @ 65

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewt...=28529&start=0

:hynotoad: heh

[Vyvian]

Don't forget about the flourish info..

• A. Flourish is weaker than Provoke, but consume 2 Finishing Moves boosts its effect closer to a Provoke.[/*:m:3q3znv4l]
• B. Flourish boosts only your own Weapon Skill. It can consume up to 3FM. Using 1 boosts Accuracy, 2 boosts Accuracy and Attack Power, and 3 boosts Acc Attk and Crit Hit rate. Because Evisceration is the only WS with Crit Hit chances, uses 3FM isn:t that useful until high levels.[/*:m:3q3znv4l]

[ronin sparthos]

Accuracy Bonus II, 3 Evasion Boost and 3 Subtle Blows, Dancer has it good in Job Traits for sure.

[Mikayla]

I had kind of figured on the ACC Bonus II and Evasion Bonus II-III, but the Subtle Blow III is nice info to have, as well as the info on Building Flourish. Already had the FM thing on Animated figured out a while back, but it's nice to know it isn't just my imagination either.

Ran out and did some brief eyeballing tests with Building+Evisceration after reading Elmer's post the other day, and the results definetly seem a lot better with FMx3 Building + Evisceration than they do with FMx3 Building + Dancing Edge, though, it was an observation against campaign mobs, etc, etc, so it definetly merits me looking into it further.

[Takiwaki]

Can you guys post WS numbers on various mobs using both DE and EV

I want to know the best way to get best results on dnc

On greater colibri 900-1000+ is normal for DE but having a hard time getting consistent 1k +
havent really tried out EV much yet.

[Shadowhusky]

Can you guys post WS numbers on various mobs using both DE and EV

I want to know the best way to get best results on dnc

On greater colibri 900-1000+ is normal for DE but having a hard time getting consistent 1k +
havent really tried out EV much yet.

Could always follow what THF does and do a DEX/STR/attack build for your DE.

[Falisa]

I like to plan ahead and I was thinking could use this setup for DE/SB (keep in mind some of them are hume specific :<)

Voyager Sallet/PCC/Brutal/Minuet
Pahluwan/Custom F gloves/Rajas/Thunder
Amemet+1/Warwolf/Denali/Marine F Boots

Only 65 right now so dunno how that setup will work out until I get to 75 lol

[Takiwaki]

Can you guys post WS numbers on various mobs using both DE and EV

I want to know the best way to get best results on dnc

On greater colibri 900-1000+ is normal for DE but having a hard time getting consistent 1k +
haven't really tried out EV much yet.

Could always follow what THF does and do a DEX/STR/attack build for your DE.

would be nice but DNC don't have half of the gear thf has access to, also taking into consideration building flourish we maybe able to substitute certain stats acc or atk in order to get good results. I was just wondering what other DNCs are getting in terms of ws so I can build from their experience and come up with something.

[Mikayla]

Can you guys post WS numbers on various mobs using both DE and EV

I want to know the best way to get best results on dnc

On greater colibri 900-1000+ is normal for DE but having a hard time getting consistent 1k +
haven't really tried out EV much yet.

Could always follow what THF does and do a DEX/STR/attack build for your DE.

would be nice but DNC don't have half of the gear thf has access to, also taking into consideration building flourish we maybe able to substitute certain stats acc or atk in order to get good results. I was just wondering what other DNCs are getting in terms of ws so I can build from their experience and come up with something.

I haven't had time to record some concrete numbers, hopefully I can get around to it tomorrow.

[chichicha]

On greater colibri 900-1000+ is normal for DE but having a hard time getting consistent 1k +
haven't really tried out EV much yet.

Can you tell me what is your gear setup to deal 900-1000+ for DE On Greater Colibri?
I haven't even broken my record of 800+ on these birds as DNC...

Would be really great to know.

Many thanks in advance !

[Takiwaki]

On greater colibri 900-1000+ is normal for DE but having a hard time getting consistent 1k +
haven't really tried out EV much yet.

Can you tell me what is your gear setup to deal 900-1000+ for DE On Greater Colibri?
I haven't even broken my record of 800+ on these birds as DNC...

Would be really great to know.

Many thanks in advance !

key item = Brd

hmm at that time i was using for WS

Ohat
blue coth
foragers
warwolf
rajas
thunder ring
hume f gloves (I have alkys but dont know if they would work better for the lack of dex)
marine boots
soil gorget/chivalrous . dont know which is better yet
brutal/mermans (i dont have suppa i use bushu for sam)
barbarossa for legs

jambiya/joyuese

sushi

[EternityEnd]

Gorgets only affect first hit of WS, so naturally, they're trash for Dancing Edge. Use Chiv chain/PCC.

[Chupunpupun]

Gorgets only affect first hit of WS, so naturally, they're trash for Dancing Edge. Use Chiv chain/PCC.

Don't spread misinformation unless you got prove to back it up. There isn't any extensive test done to show that gorget's ACC+ only affects the first hit, so use whatever you feel is best for you.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Gorgets only affect first hit of WS, so naturally, they're trash for Dancing Edge. Use Chiv chain/PCC.

Don't spread misinformation unless you got prove to back it up. There isn't any extensive test done to show that gorget's ACC+ only affects the first hit, so use whatever you feel is best for you.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. :bagel:

[BRP]

Gorgets only affect first hit of WS, so naturally, they're trash for Dancing Edge. Use Chiv chain/PCC.

Don't spread misinformation unless you got prove to back it up. There isn't any extensive test done to show that gorget's ACC+ only affects the first hit, so use whatever you feel is best for you.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. :bagel:

I think you are using that phrase incorrectly. Chup hasn't said anything about it not being true simply that it is unproven and it shouldn't be spread as fact until so.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I just like to say that 8)

[Bakthi]

Until strenuous testing is done, I'm willing to believe the intelligent DRG+THF and MNK in my LS when they say that they saw slightly better results, over time, with PCC versus gorgets on many-hit WSs. On the other hand, I (get to) use my melee jobs (and COR in a melee capacity) like 1-5% of the time, so I have Spectacles, not a PCC. I also have Soil and Breeze gorgets, because for me they were not terribly difficult to obtain (and I'd want a gorget for Slug Shot anyway). If I accept that PCC is perhaps a little better than a gorget on WSs with a large number of hits, then the gorget is probably just as good or perhaps a bit better than my Spectacles. It's what I have. Of course, if the Store TP on the c.chain gains you some actual benefit on whatever job/gear configuration, that's a different story.

I also have a couple of questions:

1. For people that have DNC at 75, what do you do with it?
2. Where did you exp 69+? My past couple of jobs I've done Heldiva imps, but hellllll no.

[Takiwaki]

Until strenuous testing is done, I'm willing to believe the intelligent DRG+THF and MNK in my LS when they say that they saw slightly better results, over time, with PCC versus gorgets on many-hit WSs. On the other hand, I (get to) use my melee jobs (and COR in a melee capacity) like 1-5% of the time, so I have Spectacles, not a PCC. I also have Soil and Breeze gorgets, because for me they were not terribly difficult to obtain (and I'd want a gorget for Slug Shot anyway). If I accept that PCC is perhaps a little better than a gorget on WSs with a large number of hits, then the gorget is probably just as good or perhaps a bit better than my Spectacles. It's what I have. Of course, if the Store TP on the c.chain gains you some actual benefit on whatever job/gear configuration, that's a different story.

I also have a couple of questions:

1. For people that have DNC at 75, what do you do with it?
2. Where did you exp 69+? My past couple of jobs I've done Heldiva imps, but hellllll no.

well i usually equip soil (i had it from mnk) works for both DE and EV its either that or chivalrous. i always thought the gorgets dmg increase was first hit while the acc was all. but Still dont know now since everyone has different opinions. but being that i get acc boost from building anyways i usually just use soil

as far as dnc at 75 limbus and xp is usually fun on it. alot of campain lol. DNC is pretty week in the NM area atm hoping that changes with the update with af and hopefully some tweaks.

yea i xped on imps it sucked. but I was not main healer, smart pts would pull jnuns in mire (heldiva sucks)

[NotFalisa]

Leech linkshell merit pts.

[Mikayla]

1. For people that have DNC at 75, what do you do with it?

Limbus, Dynamis, Salvage, Campaign, and EXP parties. If you're asking about the neckpiece for WS, I use Love Torque.

2. Where did you exp 69+? My past couple of jobs I've done Heldiva imps, but hellllll no.

The mire. It really sucks on DNC, but it's hard to convince other people to go anywhere else. I joined LS merit parties around 71 and that worked fine, minus me taking a slight EXP hit.