Dancer discussion

[Popsiclestick]

57 dnc here

I kind of wish there was more to do in a party. In most parties I just play as the role of sub tanking with cure spams. I don't sit on a lot TP honestly. I just Step to 4 or 5 then cure bomb whoever. Granted my parties as of lately is with 2-3 other dancers and no tanks =p

The fun thing I find is soloing EP's with just drain samba II, with full evasion gear, and posting/reading on bg... Hmm this makara is taking a lot longer to kill than Diatryma...

[kooldogy]

I would have to disagree to anyone who says lolDNC DD. As a Lv75DNC I can consistently do DMG on par with decently geared "other" DDs. Other meaning not a Ridill/Adaberk WAR or BB MNK. This of course shows more in bird camp where daggers get a boost. I am decently geared and Merited for melee and am only lacking Denali gear and a Joytoy, other DNC may have different results. DNC will never be a Ridill WAR with the gear available to them, but their DD is not worthless. (This excludes "End game DNC DD focus situations which I have not tested.)

As far as DNC in "end game", so far I have only had the chance to practice on a number of outer god kills as DNC with mild success. Landing steps is pretty easy, except for Quickstep which seems to have naturally lower acc. thought that last part could be bad luck. Hitting outer gods with melee hits is about as accurate as the other melee as well. Violent Flourish suffers on outer gods unfortunately, stunning for me with about 30-50% success rate with stutter step, but it should not be relied on unless you are subbing THF. I was able to keep Stutter Step on the full fight, my step of choice for stun and a BLM heavy LS. I could keep my party healthy as well, but as you may know DNC cures are sadly worthless to people outside your own PT.

Anyone else have experiance in sky etc with DNC they care to share?

[Cylo]

kooldogy, please humor me and show your equipment for Colibri camp. TP and WS. I am interested to see what other people use for DDing on DNC.

[Mikayla]

I don't think the comment "lolDNC DD" was ever made, so I think you're stretching what people have said a little bit out of proportion. Yes, everything you've said about DNC's DD is true, and I never saw anyone say otherwise. It's not stellar DD, but it's not bad either. The comment was made that, yes, Corsair is a better DD. Having both at 75 I can attest to that myself, it's a pretty clear difference. Since we're talking TP/WS gear here, I'll go ahead and post mine.

TP
Main/Sub: Behemoth Knife/Behemoth Knife (Joy offhand sometimes)
Ranged: Smart Grenade
Head: W. Turban
Neck: Love Torque
L Ear/R Ear: Suppanomimi/Brutal
Body: P. Body
Hands: Dusk Gloves
Ring1/Ring2: Jaeger Ring/Rajas Ring
Back: Amemet Mantle+1
Waist: Potent Belt (Need Swift so bad ;; )
Legs: Denali Kecks
Feet: Dusk Ledelsens

WS
Main/Sub: Behemoth Knife/Behemoth Knife (Joy offhand sometimes)
Ranged: Smart Grenade
Head: Voyager Sallet
Neck: Love Torque
L Ear/R Ear: Ethereal Earring/Brutal
Body: Blue Cotehardie
Hands: Dusk Gloves
Ring1/Ring2: Flame Ring/Rajas Ring
Back: Amemet Mantle+1
Waist: Warwolf Belt
Legs: Denali Kecks
Feet: Mithra RSE Feet ( Denali would be better )

5/8 Dagger merits as well, No STR or Crit merits.

I know I need better WS hands, but I haven't really decided what to use there yet.

[astrael]

I know I need better WS hands, but I haven't really decided what to use there yet.

I'm torn between Merman's Mittens and Denali Wristbands since I don't fully understand the contribution of STR to a non-STR mod WS, but if anything I'd probably go with the former.

Also, how many have tried /WAR at all with DNC? I have been using it for a few merit pts now since I have found literally zero use for /NIN sub in a PT situation outside of the occassional pulling role (and I am a DRK main, didn't get a Suppanomimi to reduce my dual wield delay) and have been really enjoying it. Just wish I'd actually have a BRD at a colibri camp for once...

[Tomiko]

kooldogy, please humor me and show your equipment for Colibri camp. TP and WS. I am interested to see what other people use for DDing on DNC.

Here's what I was using since 70 (currently 71):

Behemoth Knife x2
Mamoolbane (I get asked to pull alot)
Voyager Sallet
Spectacles (Spike Necklace for WS)
Spike Earring (Minuet Earring if there's a Brd)
Spike Earring (Pixie Earring for WS)
Assault Jerkin
Battle Gloves (Hume F Gloves for WS) - Would Tarasque+1 be better for WS (DE & Evis)?
Ulth. Ring
Rajas Ring
Amemet+1
Potent Belt (I'll go back to Swift at 72 when I get to use Pln. stuff)
Feral Trousers
Tabin Boots+1 (Marine F Boots for WS)

My highest WS on Greater Colibri was just under 900 at level 70 in an LS merit party with 2 Brds. I have 6/8 Dagger Merits and 4/4 Crit.

Side question: Which pieces of Denali are the most useful? Currently I'm thinking of the Feet being the main one since I already have Pln Legs which aren't too much different from Denali Legs.

[Mikayla]

The wristbands have always been in strong consideration for me for WS, it's either that or Tarasque Mitts atm. Personally I like the Denali legs, but I don't think there's one piece in particular that shines over everything else that's available (Except maybe the hands for WS, but I've had absolutely 0 luck getting them to drop).

Edit: I've dabbled with /WAR a bit, but I always come out liking /NIN better for survivability and Haste Gear+Suppa for TP Gain.

[dawdr]

Not exactly a Dancer, but Tarasque Mitts for Dancing Edge are counter-productive, since they have they carry that large loss of Charisma, either -5 or -6, on them. Basically any option is better for this particular weapon skill.

[Tomiko]

Not exactly a Dancer, but Tarasque Mitts for Dancing Edge are counter-productive, since they have they carry that large loss of Charisma, either -5 or -6, on them. Basically any option is better for this particular weapon skill.

-6 Chr

I didn't even think about that modifier. Sounds like I'll stick to RSE for the 3 Dex and 3 Str for now. Thanks.

[AzazaelFenrir]

Side question: Which pieces of Denali are the most useful? Currently I'm thinking of the Feet being the main one since I already have Pln Legs which aren't too much different from Denali Legs.

I to want to know about Denali pieces. I have P.Body and P.Legs currently. No one in my Nyzul group really wants Denali pieces, but I don't want to loot whore them all, to never really use them.

[Reality]

attack+12 & -6chr > hume rse gloves for dancing edge on dancer

i can't say for certain between tarasque/+1 vs. denali on DE for dancer, since I don't have denali, i'd imagine tarasque would come out on top, though

[Falisa]

Has anyone found a recipie for Yagudo Glue? Im currently trying to get kill some Yagudo for feathers since AH is down. Going to have an alchemy friend try animal glue recipie but use yagudo feathers in place of rabbit hide. Hopefully the NPCs will tell the recipie as well.

[Shadowhusky]

Has anyone found a recipie for Yagudo Glue? Im currently trying to get kill some Yagudo for feathers since AH is down. Going to have an alchemy friend try animal glue recipie but use yagudo feathers in place of rabbit hide. Hopefully the NPCs will tell the recipie as well.

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It drops from bard yags in [s] zones.

[Falisa]

yeah just figured that out after I posted that. Came here to fix my post but nvm.

[jibini]

Since I'm sure I wasn't the only curious one:

I just got my AF feet crafted. Wait is only 1 Vana'diel day, and chocobo jig duration is increased to 2:30.

[heavensword]

In case anyone is curious, the formula for /DNC Curing Waltz II is now:

(dancerCHR+targetVIT)/4+130

As DNC main, it is divided by 2. So, at 75, it knocks off roughly 30-40HP for each CW2.

[Tomiko]

Tiara adds 30s to Sambas.

Drain Samba 3 is now 1:30 instead of 1:00. With Tiara it's 2:00. I would assume Aspir Samba 2 and Haste Samba are the same.

[Vyvian]

Do you have to leave any of the AF equipped to keep the bonus or can you just swap it on to pop the dance, and then switch back to whatever you were using?

[jibini]

Just has to be equipped when you use it.

[AzazaelFenrir]

Now that we have seen the AF I will ask again.

What (if any) pieces of Denali are worth getting? I haven't gotten my dancer much past 20 yet, but absolutely no one in my Nyzul groups wants Denali.