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  1. #201
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    After about 45 mins. of waiting here is the official word from Customer Support (PlayOnline).

    Q. Have you guys hear of this issue?
    A. No this is the first time I've heard of it, let me ask around (waits 15 mins). Ah yes we've been receiving calls about this today.

    Q. So there is no answer to this solution?
    A. What video card are you using.
    - 7900GTX NVIDIA

    Q. So what should we do?
    A. I recommend you go to playonline under e-mail support to file a bug request. If we receive enough emails we can issue an emergency patch.

    Q. Do people actually check that thing?
    A. Yes.



    So I recommend everyone to file an email bug report about this issue. If we're lucky we can get a patch fix by January.

  2. #202
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkymallards
    Fixed for me by removing my Logitech Mouse/Keyboard. Couple of other people have said the same.


    Are those wireless? I would assume it.

    I have wireless KB/Mouse from MS. However I don't have them installed with the original CD they came with, just plug and play.

    I don't have any KB/M wired but I have another wireless set i got free from buying something, those are Logitech, but have never used them.

  3. #203
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Seriously, try unplugging any Logitech peripherals. The second my G15 goes back in the USB port, the FPS drops again.

    The mouse is wireless, the keyboard not.

    Edit: The mouse is having no effect at all, just the sexy keyboard >.<

  4. #204
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Isiolia
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    quick Q, was DX9 introduced into this update?
    Believe so, since they had said that the reason windowed mode was taking so long was that they needed to rewrite the engine into DX9. I assume that since we have windowed mode, it's in DX9 now.
    By reading windower forums (and for the fact that windower still works) seems that they STILL are on DirectX 8.1

    lolps2limitiations er... directx8limitations whatever...

    I have Logitech wireless desktop... with that crappy program loaded tho...

  5. #205
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    My pc:

    AMD 64 X2 4400
    2 GB RAM
    nVidia Geforce 7800 GTX 256mb
    driver version 163.71 (tho nVidia control panel never works/appears .-.)
    XP Home

    My game runs fine in any version. In non-windowed mode it seems fine, in windowed mode same but the gamma seems quite bright, and with version 3.26 it runs fine too, like nothing's changed whatsoever. Framerates are all what they were before.

    I don't use Brandon's thing. The only plugins I use are Tparty and IME, and I do have datswaps. I run Norton too, but I haven't changed anything since update and obviously it was running fine before that. ;x Can't think of anything else (edit: in both windowed modes I checked POL in task manager and it was set to 'low priority' but I never changed anything there), but maybe that helps a bit.

  6. #206
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Unplugging my Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse fixed it for me.

  7. #207
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    I'll contribute to the G15 issue.

    My FPS was at 10-12. The very second I unplugged my G15, the FPS shot up to 30.

  8. #208
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkymallards
    Seriously, try unplugging any Logitech peripherals. The second my G15 goes back in the USB port, the FPS drops again.

    The mouse is wireless, the keyboard not.

    Edit: The mouse is having no effect at all, just the sexy keyboard >.<
    went from 3 fps to 10 fps. not quite enough.

  9. #209
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    my head is spinning at the moment...

    Isiolia, do you have a logitech keyboard as well?

    Unplugging the logitech keyboard sent my FPS right back to 30'ish stable..

  10. #210
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkymallards
    Fixed for me by removing my Logitech Mouse/Keyboard. Couple of other people have said the same.
    unplugged logitech keyboard, working 90% better now (i miss UI mods >.>)
    running at 17 fps now....not great but a lot better than the 3-5 fps before.

  11. #211
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    yep, unplugged my logitec keyboard and i went back up to 29fps

  12. #212
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Information that may be useful
    I found out what is slowing the system down
    but I don't know why or how to fix

    When I ran ffxi windowed, I looked at task manager
    there was a new svchost.exe (windows service) running that was sucking up 10% of cpu or something
    So I killed it, and all of a sudden the FFXI window started running full speed again.

    However.

    Once I killed it I got a dialog box that said "plug and play something has been stopped. Your machine will now be shut down (close)". In a minute my system restarted.

    I don't know what plug and play device/service is causing the conflict, but I'm betting it's the cause of this problem. I can upload pictures if you'd like, but the change was very noticable. 5fps to 60 pegged for the minute that it lasted before the automatic shutdown occurred.

    I know this information isn't very useful, but it's a lead.

  13. #213
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    unplugging my G15 keyboard made me go from 20fps > 30fps.. lol
    Guess it's back to the old keyboard until this gets fixed somehow =/

  14. #214
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    Intel/Nvidia, runs like shit, even updated my Nvidia drivers.

    edit: rest of my system is fine when the game is on, just the game runs at like 10 fps... even while in MH.

    This is exactly what I am getting.

    Intel Dual Core - Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT

    Game looks decent graphics wise, comp not slow. Fucking 10FPS. Goddamnit.

  15. #215
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    I can confirm Unplugging my wireless keyboard and mouse makes the game run fast again

  16. #216
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Unplugged my logitech G5 mouse, works like a charm now. Wierd ass problem to have...

  17. #217
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    I should have realized it was related to the mouse when my cursor would disappear like i stated earlier, i have a microsoft wireless set, unplugged the mouse and running 100% smooth now.

  18. #218
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    Intel C2D x6700
    2x ATi x1950XTX 512mb xFire
    2GB DDR2-800 Corsair XM2
    Windows Vista Business

    It's not Windows Firewall or Security Center that is causing it.

    Currently running Trillian, ATi Tools and Firefox. Nothing else.

    Tried with S-E Windower and got lag
    Tried with Unoffical Windower and got lag
    Tried with no windower and got lag.

    Priority for all of them is Low.
    Affinity is CPU0 and CPU1.(Dual Core )

    I have 28 Processes running, which is incredibly low with Vista. Also DCom Server Process Launcher is required by Vista. Almost everything uses it and disabling it will just make your computer reboot.

    Tried disabling Catalyst AI, no change.
    Tried changing from 2048x2048 to 1024x1024 background and still no change.
    Unplugged Logitech Mouse(MX518 corded) and no change. No other Logitech components. No software from Logitech installed either.
    Nothing wireless on my system because I hate wireless :D

  19. #219
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    unplugged microsoft "wireless comfort keyboard 4000" and "wireless laser mouse 5000", went from 8fps to cap.

  20. #220
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    Re: Windowed mode sucks?

    UPDATE: I had the same lag problems with my nvidia 7900GTX card. My card had anisotropic turned on and the image quality to 'high quality'. I forced AA and Anisotropic to application controlled and reduced the quality to high performance. Low and behold I was able to log in with no lag in SE windowed and fullscreen modes. It actually runs better than it did previously. I have to play with registry settings again because I also rolled all those back.

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