Windowed/game lag? edit: USB Devices FIX INSIDE

[Missykitty]

I was searching here last night and this morning. I knew if there was a solution y'all would find it. I disabled the HID drivers and now it works fine. I had to disable MS HID a few months ago after a MS update that caused my windower to no longer load. I hope they fix this, I'd hate to have to go in and disable each time I turn off my computer or restart after an update. ~HUGE HUGS~ to everyone. I'd never had figured this out on my own.

I hope everyone who is still having trouble gets the solution they are searching for real soon.

[Matrix]

on both of the compliant ID things, my numbers are:

HID\\vid_046d&Pid_c222&....

Whereas the variation from the suggested HID to disable starts at the bolded.

Do I disable this anways, or is mine totally dif?


Christ, I can understand SE breaking my SAM. But breaking my fucking KEYBOARD is just getting too personal.

[Caestus]

the lag i encouter on both FFXI winower and 3.3 windower is there. moreso with the FFXI windower. but i notice yea when unplugged FPS goes up.

Fortunatally the lag i encounter is playable on FFXI

[Cruceo]

Maybe there's a possible way to block FFXI from reading the HID-compliant consumer control devices that seem to be causing so much trouble. I remember a LONG time ago, I used process guard to bypass things in other games, and it was my savior... Maybe process guard can be that hero of mine once again and literally stop FFXI from reading info from said devices.

Theoretically, if FFXI can NOT read from those devices, it would have the SAME effect as disabling it, since FFXI would have no interaction with them.

The only problem though, is that I don't know where that file would be located, and I honestly don't have the time to go looking for it. If anyone knows it offhand, please post here, and I'll try and use it with process guard and see if I can't get this to work.

If this does work though, you could play the game normally, and have the same buttons and things working without any trouble, since process guard has never failed me yet, and I've used it for years...

Maybe this could be a temporary fix 'till SE fixes their "mistake." But, if they're following Microsoft's example, that little "fix" we're all hoping for may not come for a LONG time, or be entirely non-existent. ProcessGuard may be our only hope if we can find the root file of the HID-devices.

And yes, if you block the wrong thing, FFXI won't be able to read it at all, so make sure if you try this you don't block the USB from being read, as your device might not work with FFXI then. Make sure you ONLY block the HID-Compliant Consumer Control Devices.

[Weavus]

Any reason why Firefox would be responding slowly while running FFXI windowed?

Are you using a controller? I'm having a minor variant of the problems people are reporting here, where my ffxi runs fine in focus, but when I alt-tab to firefox or AIM everything slows to a crawl, trying to type stuff is painful, and ffxi slows down in the background as well. Unplugging the controller makes the problem go away, so I figure it'll get fixed when they fix the bigger issue.

No, I'm not using a controller. I haven't tested AIM, but it seems it's just Firefox that slows down a bit. I'm typing faster then it's displaying. I have USB Mouse and Logitech Keyboard, but taking out/replacing them doesn't do anything. I've got a gig of RAM and Radeon 9200 if that helps anyone.

What kind of logitech keyboard? Most people who have problems here have USB Keyboards that require a USB connection because the keyboards draw power from the USB Port(Like the Eclipse, G15). It's not ram or video card problem. I think it is a problem with keyboards drawing power from the USB Port(to power the LCD lights under keys, programmable keys, etc. Not just caps lock, num lock, scroll lock lights).

Tried a Micro Innovations Keyboard that has 22 programmable keys on it and it has the same problem as my Eclipse. Neither work in PS/2 port with the adapter. Leads me to believe that the Micro keyboard also requires USB Power. I need to get a keyboard that is USB but works with the PS/2 adapter and try that in the USB Port.

It's not a USB Keyboard. Logitech Y-SAE71.

[SnickySnacks]

Meh, I have a slightly different but possibly similar problem.
Running WinMe on my P3-800Mhz 512meg computer, which has been fine for the last 4 years of FFXI, suddenly I get pausing every 5 seconds in game. Running fullscreen, no windower (official or otherwise), and unplugging my USB mouse didn't solve anything. My keyboard is PS/2.

I'm a bit frustrated since it's very hard to do anything when you get a 1 second pause every 5 seconds. At least it runs fine on my laptop (unofficial windower does, anyways) and my 360.

[Matrix]

So, g15 clearly didnt work. Once unplugged, FPS back to norm 29.

But uh.

Dusted off an old PS2 port KB, then realized my PC somehow has no PS2 port <_< used a PS2 --> USB converter and it has the same problem as my usb lol ._.

So its USB keyboards in general?

Going to go to bed (8:15 AM) and hopefully wake up able to play FFXI X_X;;

[Cruceo]

I need someone to help me locate the files I posted about in here:

Maybe there's a possible way to block FFXI from reading the HID-compliant consumer control devices that seem to be causing so much trouble. I remember a LONG time ago, I used process guard to bypass things in other games, and it was my savior... Maybe process guard can be that hero of mine once again and literally stop FFXI from reading info from said devices.

Theoretically, if FFXI can NOT read from those devices, it would have the SAME effect as disabling it, since FFXI would have no interaction with them.

The only problem though, is that I don't know where that file would be located, and I honestly don't have the time to go looking for it. If anyone knows it offhand, please post here, and I'll try and use it with process guard and see if I can't get this to work.

If this does work though, you could play the game normally, and have the same buttons and things working without any trouble, since process guard has never failed me yet, and I've used it for years...

Maybe this could be a temporary fix 'till SE fixes their "mistake." But, if they're following Microsoft's example, that little "fix" we're all hoping for may not come for a LONG time, or be entirely non-existent. ProcessGuard may be our only hope if we can find the root file of the HID-devices.

And yes, if you block the wrong thing, FFXI won't be able to read it at all, so make sure if you try this you don't block the USB from being read, as your device might not work with FFXI then. Make sure you ONLY block the HID-Compliant Consumer Control Devices.

If I can find the correct files, I can make this work. Or at least give it a shot. It's better than sitting on my ass doing nothing.

[Cruceo]

Emergency World Maintenance scheduled today for 12:00 PM EST. Hopefully this "emergency" is the FPS drop, and hopefully they'll fix it.

[sekaran]

Emergency World Maintenance scheduled today for 12:00 PM EST. Hopefully this "emergency" is the FPS drop, and hopefully they'll fix it.

I guess I'll wait for that before disabling anything. I have too many things on USB that I need to use.

[Brytor]

Anyone else getting massively low FPS? With all USB stuff unplugged i'm getting a max of 9 FPS, and 3FPS with my keyboard connected.

Yes, I get 10-13 FPS with all USB unplugged and using an old 3 different PS2 Keyboards and 2 PS2 Mice. With USB Keyboard and Mice I get 3-5 FPS. Things were find before this update so it's not just USB Mice/Keyboard causing the issue.

I'm actually using the PS2 again since it seems to work better then my PC.

[Cruceo]

Ugghhh, I hate waiting...

[kodos1]

I went through Phone Support within an hour after the update. I dual box both Vista and XP so I was on the phone quite awhile trying to help. One thing players can do to help out is to:
start POL Viewer, then minimize.
go to start menu, bring up the run command and type in dxdiag
At the bottom of the direct x box that opens up, there's a button thats something like "generate report"
click that, save it, and open it in a text editer and copy it.
Send a Bug Report to SE from the pol viewer and paste it into the report with Ctrl V.


(if the problem's not fixed by the time I post this)

< Bug Report > is under support--> Email support and scroll down a bit to see it.

[Cruceo]

LMAO Their fix did shit. Didn't help at all... How typical of SE...

[Squirrels]

Update didn't fix my problem.....

[Gatsby]

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnew ... 1928.shtml

[Important Update Details]

Following issue has been addressed:

- Effect of Reraise wears off when a player is KO'd in level-restricted areas.

[Squirrels]

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnew ... 1914.shtml

They sit there on their site and say that its a problem, yet they don't fix it?

[Kyreth]

Betting they'll fold it into a client update patch with WoTG. So one more day of this, expansion chaos FTL but definitely expected.

[Amele]

need a client update since this is a client issue.

looks like I won't be playing til next week (not going to go buy a new hardware attachment that I don't need for a handful of days just to go afkthanksgiving anyway)

[Cruceo]

This is bull shit! None of us paid good money for them to screw up like this. And then for them to NOT take action when they clearly had the chance to in this last bit of maintenance, it's just outrageous! And it took them 2 whole god damn hours to fix a re-raise problem?! What the hell is that all about?!

I'm so sick and tired of SE's shitty service and support, after 3 years of dealing with their crap, I'm getting ready to quit for good. Good game or not, their support sucks.