1str no longer = 1attack

[Sylvaria]

can you guys say what gear you have?lol or at lest what WS gear you use...

well pretty much the goin things

hagun
pole strap
hauby+1
aces
hmn boots
alkys/dusk
flame ring/toau ring
cop ring
brutal
bushi
sea gorget/justice
shura haidate/byakkos

capped merits


after all,i dont think it got nerfed by that much,not the attribute nerf nor the y/g/k nerf

[aspekt]

hagun
mythril+1 i think?
hauby+1
Wyvern
hmn boots
pallas
flame ring/cop ring
tri+1/Brutal
sea gorget
byakkos
ame+1
warwolf
capped merits

i WS for 800-1400 with eatting meat and 2 brd party on Jade.
and you have better gears, i see a huge difference...

[Arthars]

seriously, its no biggy and lil ,VERY LIL, difference to people who put in full time effort to their gears and merits for sam

this only affects shit sams that sucks real bad pre patch and yell for a fix, and then become god after the patch due to unbalance issues EVEN WITH SHITTY GEARS.

im not surprised to see another sam posting "I GOTTA QUIT NOW" unless he/she dares to post SS of his current gears and merits

i love this patch because now, we can pick good sams from the entire sam pool, rather then pick any sam who claims they deal good damage.

[devildrifterX]

Is the same thing applied to acc, i cheked a lurker on my sam, conned IT+ and i have 4/8 GK merits with +46 in gear (didnt have hasso on) didnt get to check it much but i can tell they have toned the acc buff down

[careswww]

maybe they just put it back down to old 1.5 instead of 1.75 fTP mod at 100%?

[Max™]

Well, did some testing, don't have all of my various Acc/Dex stuff, but it's looking like the .75~.8 estimate is about right for Acc too.

Gay since it really feels unnecessary, but not going to break me.

[Lordwafik]

Mmmm the stampede of the AH, people buying Snipers again.

[devildrifterX]

which makes me mighty happy that i bought my snipers at a super low price lol

[pooter3001]

Ok, did some tests on gekko naked and came up with these numbers for FTP


100%=1.75(same) 200%=2.25 300%=3.00-3.25

for the 300%, all my tests were between 3.10 and3.2. so wasn't sure which way to go there. but the other two averaged out almost exactly at those numbers.

pooter

[Saraphym]

as far as y/g/k dmg goes comapred to pre patch, it feels like my overwhelm merits have been taken out, but tbh its not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, still better than before the first update and far from broken.

[careswww]

wait what?
it went from 1.75 2.00 2.50 to 1.75 2.25 3.0?

[pooter3001]

wait what?
it went from 1.75 2.00 2.50 to 1.75 2.25 3.0?

I was a bit suprised myself. it's possible instead of changing ftp, they changed the WSC mods

[Edenbuster]

That would not do well to explain the significant DROP in ws damage?

[Saraphym]

well you're still losing 25-30% of attack/acc* from eq/food bonuses from before.

[Marcicus]

Can we get some general screenshots of 2H damage? Because seeing a pimp DRK do a 90 damage Spinning Slash on Fafnir makes me sad. :[

[recuperi]

I noticed my gekkos were doing significantly less than yuki and kasha now, but this isnt in merit or HNM or anything. I was topping out at 750 gekkos on simurgh (with sam/nin and coeurl sub) but i kinda attribute some of that to the slash penalty; the damage did go down for sure, as the monk was hitting 1200's on AF, but it wasnt as huge as I thought it was on the first cycle through Y/G/K on lesser colibris.

[pooter3001]

That would not do well to explain the significant DROP in ws damage?

Well, these tests were performed against level 0 mobs in ronf. so it's possible they changed the cratio>pdif conversion against higher def mobs? These tests were assuming an average pdif of 2.00(probly should have /thf to get a pdif closer to 3.0)

pooter

[recuperi]

I remember reading somewhere that people doing tests for damage on Y/G/K said gekko seemed like it had somewhat of a defense-ignoring characteristic (can't remember where and it could've possibly just been speculation). Is it possible they just removed this (possibly imaginary) characteristic from that?

[Holsety]

If this change has only affected shitty Samurais than I am more than happy to call it a success.

No, this basically destroyed 2-handers damage on HNM. Adaberk DRK was doing 100-300 Spinning Slashes at Fafnir >_>, and reports of pimped out SAMs doing 300 damage Gekkos on it coming in.

[VZX]

If this change has only affected shitty Samurais than I am more than happy to call it a success.

No, this basically destroyed 2-handers damage on HNM. Adaberk DRK was doing 100-300 Spinning Slashes at Fafnir >_>, and reports of pimped out SAMs doing 300 damage Gekkos on it coming in.

My guess is they tweak (back?) the level difference correction