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    Prelim BST Update

    Here is my observation so far in playing with Jug Pets. Used CC for testing. Using tigers in UU range for testing.

    Def and Att seems to have remained the same.
    HP definately has gone up. Approx 20%
    Stay healing is awesome now. Starts at +3% HP then +1%~ish after each tick. Found a few discrepancies and I'm thinking there's a fraction somewhere. Could be +1.5% or some fraction

    Snarl - Useable only on jug pets; 30 sec recast. Transfer ALL eminty to jug pet. It's not a provoke, it's a straight transfer. It's a little different than a PUPs Ventriloquy where they switch, but instead all of the BSTs emnity is added to the Jug pet's.

    Hope this is a good starting point.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Thank You sir for the info!

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Yes, I had some fun with Snarl.

    I ran into Sarutabaruta and cast Dia on every monster I saw, called out pet and use snarl. Every monster that was close enough began to hit carrie instead of me. It was amazing. xD

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Shame that it's jugpet only, would have been better if it was all pets since as it stands it's somewhat useless.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    I think this could be pretty usefull for something. I gave my bst a spin and its pretty fun

    SATA onto bst
    Provoke
    Bust a WS
    Snarl
    CC now has 100% of hate so everyone else can go nuts....... until CC dies that is, lol

    Admitedly its not going to last long against hnm, but for xp parties or medium size NM's, it could be a fun new way to tank while the real tanks build hate.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Shame that it's jugpet only, would have been better if it was all pets since as it stands it's somewhat useless.

    Mmhmm... still pretty cool though.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Quote Originally Posted by zhan
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Shame that it's jugpet only, would have been better if it was all pets since as it stands it's somewhat useless.

    Mmhmm... still pretty cool though.
    I wouldn't call it useless, but like all things BST, this wont add anything to a party/alliance situation. Seems to me that it will only be useful when you have and Oh Shi...moment and need to buy time to find the zone or another natural pet.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Quote Originally Posted by grover
    Quote Originally Posted by zhan
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Shame that it's jugpet only, would have been better if it was all pets since as it stands it's somewhat useless.

    Mmhmm... still pretty cool though.
    I wouldn't call it useless, but like all things BST, this wont add anything to a party/alliance situation. Seems to me that it will only be useful when you have and Oh Shi...moment and need to buy time to find the zone or another natural pet.
    Yah, however the fact that it's on a 30 second recast, screams to be used while normal exp without jugpets .

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    And the fact Jugpets take hits like a bitch and die in 3 hits from anything.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    It could be used for the BST to shed hate and go full attack with having to strain the healer.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Quote Originally Posted by zeorhymer
    It could be used for the BST to shed hate and go full attack with having to strain the healer.
    lol

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    How far away can you be and use Snarl? Can you piss off a bunch of monsters, have your jugpet Snarl the aggro away where it's sitting some distance apart from you, and then watch the monsters run all the way there, try and beat down Carrie, while you make for the hills to summon a new one and the monsters wonder where the hell you went?

    I could see it being useful in kiting- have your pet follow you, annoy the monster, snarl the enmity to the pet, if you screw up it takes the hit instead of you.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Shame that it's jugpet only, would have been better if it was all pets since as it stands it's somewhat useless.
    Unless they give us better jug pets for tanking, or they remove the level 75 cap for Jug Pets, yeah... I have to agree it seems kinda useless to me.
    Well maybe not that "useless", it's still a welcome addition, but it won't change BST into a secondary tanker (with pet tanking).
    Now with a level 85 Courier Carrie maybe things could be diffrent. Or with a level 75 Wyvern pet xD

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    It does mean that it's pretty much impossible to die if you have jugpet timer up and you run atleast as fast as the mob you are fighting. Certainly not useless, but lets make a lot of noise so we can get it applied to natural mobs too

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Snarl would be broken on normal pets for solo/duo bsts though, wouldn't it?

    I thought Carrie had a good amount of hp, like 3k, was whoever said that to me very very wrong as it sounds like?

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    CC has like 4500ish at 75, people can't count and underestimate it.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Would it be that "game-breaking" to give BST some better jugs? Especially since there are many areas where BST can't charm shit, no?
    Maybe I'm just being naive, but I don't see how getting some better jugs would be game-breaking.
    It would change a few things of course, but nothing that "big" imho. And it's only due, how long since BST got anything cool? I remember the pet disappear nerf >_>
    Oh and Snarl yeah, which is cool.

    Nobody talking about the shared 5 sec timer between heel, stay etc? How does it feel?

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    Snarl would be broken on normal pets for solo/duo bsts though, wouldn't it?
    so?

    I thought Carrie had a good amount of hp, like 3k, was whoever said that to me very very wrong as it sounds like?
    His HP isn't the problem, it's the fact he can't keep up a decent hit rate nor hit very hard compared to other charmables in most areas.


    Nobody talking about the shared 5 sec timer between heel, stay etc? How does it feel?
    It doesn't feel like Sic2 to me!

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    Snarl would be broken on normal pets for solo/duo bsts though, wouldn't it?

    I thought Carrie had a good amount of hp, like 3k, was whoever said that to me very very wrong as it sounds like?
    In a PvP I did with a Bst friend of mine, I did a 1k Raging Rush to a Tiger jug and did about 30%, so I just assumed most jugs had 3k or more HP.

    Didn't they buff total Jug pet HP?

    Either way, Bst/Nin is an awesome SATA partner now, could think of some interesting things with it and that new Nin hate "hiding" effect.

    Someone Thf or /Thf sticks a big SATA on Bst/Nin, Ninja hides his hate and mob turns, starts eating shadows, second Thf or /Thf sticks big SATA on Ninja, Nin gets his original hate back, Bst snarls hate away to Jug.

    Having been in random farming groups with a couple of /Thf's eyeing a Bst for SATAing, that is the first thing that occurred to me.

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    Re: Prelim BST Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    Snarl would be broken on normal pets for solo/duo bsts though, wouldn't it?
    so?

    I thought Carrie had a good amount of hp, like 3k, was whoever said that to me very very wrong as it sounds like?
    His HP isn't the problem, it's the fact he can't keep up a decent hit rate nor hit very hard compared to other charmables in most areas.
    So, we don't want to break the game now do we?

    And um, we're talking tanking. Do you want the pet to be a uberDD and a tank or something?

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