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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    You guys had it easy with 6k, we needed to start a new disk on nyzul isle and we got this at the very start of floor 1. Recovered and cleared thank god or Id be real mad at SE now.

    http://www.elitestagers.com/nyzul.jpg

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sehi
    You guys had it easy with 6k, we needed to start a new disk on nyzul isle and we got this at the very start of floor 1. Recovered and cleared thank god or Id be real mad at SE now.

    http://www.elitestagers.com/nyzul.jpg
    LMFAO.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    I don't get it, wasn't discoid one of the NM-only move? I thought only Battleclad Chariot could use discoid.
    Now every Chariot has discoid among its TP move set?

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs
    I don't get it, wasn't discoid one of the NM-only move? I thought only Battleclad Chariot could use discoid.
    Now every Chariot has discoid among its TP move set?

    Same chariot, different name in Nyzul.


    If you don't know, the bosses can appear as normal mobs in Nyzul Assault (that's how we figured about Armored Chariot being utsu'able before anyone had even fought him).

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    No I didn't know about LAC, LBC, ACC and BCC inside Nyzul with different names.
    I guess they are slightly gimped tho? Like less HP?

    It would make sense to have them as random floor bosses on higher floors, but on floor 1?


    Edit:
    It's one of the possible bosses of "Eliminate Enemy Leader", I see. It never happened to us, we only got Imp, Flan or Poroggo enemy leader. Still, since usually Nyzul Isle difficulty is tuned to go up the more you go up on floors (there are a few mistakes but in general it's like that) it sounds very unfair that one of those 4 Chariot can be the boss for a floor one objective, sounds like really bad luck. I really hope they have at least tuned-down HP, if not anything else.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs
    No I didn't know about LAC, LBC, ACC and BCC inside Nyzul with different names.
    I guess they are slightly gimped tho? Like less HP?

    It would make sense to have them as random floor bosses on higher floors, but on floor 1?


    Edit:
    It's one of the possible bosses of "Eliminate Enemy Leader", I see. It never happened to us, we only got Imp, Flan or Poroggo enemy leader. Still, since usually Nyzul Isle difficulty is tuned to go up the more you go up on floors (there are a few mistakes but in general it's like that) it sounds very unfair that one of those 4 Chariot can be the boss for a floor one objective, sounds like really bad luck. I really hope they have at least tuned-down HP, if not anything else.
    I haven't done nyzul since they patched it, but before the patch we got a floor :

    "Defeat all specified enemies" and they were chariots. Yumyumyum.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    That's an evil thought wafik...

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Chariot floors aren't bad at all in Nyzul, gone through em a few times. most of the time (read: not 55,555) it's manageable and even a little better than 6 froggies <3

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    last night our Nyzul Isle run was nice 3 floor 20's and 1 floor 80 got 2 Askar Feet and 1 Goliard Saio luckly we didn't get any off the wall AOEs . . .

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by terraflarex
    That's an evil thought wafik...
    Not an evil thought and evil thing that SE blessed us with, I don't think I've been to Nyzul since, lol. To be fair it was in the lvl40 or so range of floors.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    in my experience, there are two situations when you fight a chariot. first, you can pull "defeat specified enemies" where there will be a handfull of chariots up. these are like the non-boss chariots. inertia stream and such are available, but brainjack, homing missile, etc are not. then there's the bitch floors where you pull "defeat the enemy leader" and it's a chariot. i remember one time we pulled the Long-Armed chariot's little brother. brainjacks back to back. it wasn't pretty with only 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio
    in my experience, there are two situations when you fight a chariot. first, you can pull "defeat specified enemies" where there will be a handfull of chariots up. these are like the non-boss chariots. inertia stream and such are available, but brainjack, homing missile, etc are not. then there's the bitch floors where you pull "defeat the enemy leader" and it's a chariot. i remember one time we pulled the Long-Armed chariot's little brother. brainjacks back to back. it wasn't pretty with only 6.
    I can imagine how fighting them in 6, as much as you have temp items and fully unlocked, mustn't be easy. Especially if you consider the chance to aggro nearby enemies.
    Usually when I went to Nyzul (stopped to dedicate myself completely to Salvage) we also used very particular setups which proved very effective on most missions, but wouldn't be as much on those 4 bosses.

    That's why I'm rightfully expecting them to be at least somehow easier than their Salvage counterparts? I don't know... less defense? Less HP? Less attack? Something like this?

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sehi
    You guys had it easy with 6k, we needed to start a new disk on nyzul isle and we got this at the very start of floor 1. Recovered and cleared thank god or Id be real mad at SE now.

    http://www.elitestagers.com/nyzul.jpg

    lol... that's insane.

    I was doing Arrapago Remnants last night and the gears were doing restoral for 5,000-6,000 hp. Made what's usually an easy boss run impossible to finish due to lack of time.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs
    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio
    in my experience, there are two situations when you fight a chariot. first, you can pull "defeat specified enemies" where there will be a handfull of chariots up. these are like the non-boss chariots. inertia stream and such are available, but brainjack, homing missile, etc are not. then there's the bitch floors where you pull "defeat the enemy leader" and it's a chariot. i remember one time we pulled the Long-Armed chariot's little brother. brainjacks back to back. it wasn't pretty with only 6.
    I can imagine how fighting them in 6, as much as you have temp items and fully unlocked, mustn't be easy. Especially if you consider the chance to aggro nearby enemies.
    Usually when I went to Nyzul (stopped to dedicate myself completely to Salvage) we also used very particular setups which proved very effective on most missions, but wouldn't be as much on those 4 bosses.

    That's why I'm rightfully expecting them to be at least somehow easier than their Salvage counterparts? I don't know... less defense? Less HP? Less attack? Something like this?
    oh, they're definitely baby brothers of the bosses. they have far less HP, and their stats are far lower. some things, like the brainjack i mentioned, are not nerfed and do far more damage to a group of 6 than they would to a group of 9 or 12, especially one that's not designed or geared to handle a boss chariot.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Not an evil thought and evil thing that SE blessed us with, I don't think I've been to Nyzul since, lol. To be fair it was in the lvl40 or so range of floors.
    Later on that run we also had a 4 chariot spec enemies, so they can definatly throw that at you before u even get floor 20.

    Im starting to notice nyzul isnt so "random" when u get one chariot u usually get more. Last nights run was full of chariots and frogs, 3 of 5 floors on one run was spec enemies of 5 frogs spread waaaay out on huge layout floors. Almost more annoying finding things than killing em.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs
    No I didn't know about LAC, LBC, ACC and BCC inside Nyzul with different names.
    I guess they are slightly gimped tho? Like less HP?

    It would make sense to have them as random floor bosses on higher floors, but on floor 1?


    Edit:
    It's one of the possible bosses of "Eliminate Enemy Leader", I see. It never happened to us, we only got Imp, Flan or Poroggo enemy leader. Still, since usually Nyzul Isle difficulty is tuned to go up the more you go up on floors (there are a few mistakes but in general it's like that) it sounds very unfair that one of those 4 Chariot can be the boss for a floor one objective, sounds like really bad luck. I really hope they have at least tuned-down HP, if not anything else.
    I haven't done nyzul since they patched it, but before the patch we got a floor :

    "Defeat all specified enemies" and they were chariots. Yumyumyum.
    That still happens now. Luckily, the "specified enemies" chariots we've gotten so far aren't the kind to use discoid... yet.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    Wonder wtf they were doing in Salvage.. lol. I'd assume ninja'ing something, but what
    SSR drop rates? down, no doubt.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    didnt wanna post incase it was jus bad luck, but since people seeing weird things in salvage

    yes i saw a gear got 50%>100% with restoral

    also, in arrapago last night, we literally killed off like every possible qutrub, with th3 active the whole time, and NONE of them dropped weapons, all they dropped was head

    dont wanna say its a glitch cause well.. arrapago is gay like that... but come on.. all first / second / third floor qutrub only dropping head? there is something goin on

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeosilot
    Quote Originally Posted by Sehi
    You guys had it easy with 6k, we needed to start a new disk on nyzul isle and we got this at the very start of floor 1. Recovered and cleared thank god or Id be real mad at SE now.

    http://www.elitestagers.com/nyzul.jpg

    lol... that's insane.

    I was doing Arrapago Remnants last night and the gears were doing restoral for 5,000-6,000 hp. Made what's usually an easy boss run impossible to finish due to lack of time.
    God damn, that's totally excellent.

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    Re: Discoid = 55,000 Needles?

    Totally need to see someone solo it for epic damage.

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