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    Re: Elementals

    So anyone have any advice for beating dark eles? Theres one on Bahamut that always shows up and I have a feeling Ectosmash won't do much against it.

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    Re: Elementals

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    So anyone have any advice for beating dark eles? Theres one on Bahamut that always shows up and I have a feeling Ectosmash won't do much against it.
    also got a similar question-there's a dark ele on asura that doesn't cast stun/drain/aspir. however, it starts with a ga2 spell or am followed by tier2 spells if the opponent isn't already dead. what plates make that possible? also enspell mobs seem to barely dent the elemental and get raped by all the big spells. what kills dark elementals that cast big blm spells and has blink, stoneskin, phalanx? can dark elementals be dispelled?

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    Re: Elementals

    Quote Originally Posted by algrensan
    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    So anyone have any advice for beating dark eles? Theres one on Bahamut that always shows up and I have a feeling Ectosmash won't do much against it.
    also got a similar question-there's a dark ele on asura that doesn't cast stun/drain/aspir. however, it starts with a ga2 spell or am followed by tier2 spells if the opponent isn't already dead. what plates make that possible? also enspell mobs seem to barely dent the elemental and get raped by all the big spells. what kills dark elementals that cast big blm spells and has blink, stoneskin, phalanx? can dark elementals be dispelled?
    That's the same as the Bahamut champ. It just spams elemental ga nukes. I was thinking of making a pot built just to kill elementals, give it shell, wind attack and make sure it gets auto regain and try to make it spam mysterious light.

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    Re: Elementals

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    That's the same as the Bahamut champ. It just spams elemental ga nukes. I was thinking of making a pot built just to kill elementals, give it shell, wind attack and make sure it gets auto regain and try to make it spam mysterious light.
    is this a proven dark elemental killer? the dark elemental champ rarely gets dethroned so either something must be killing it or the dude took it off himself.

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    Re: Elementals

    Quote Originally Posted by algrensan
    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    That's the same as the Bahamut champ. It just spams elemental ga nukes. I was thinking of making a pot built just to kill elementals, give it shell, wind attack and make sure it gets auto regain and try to make it spam mysterious light.
    is this a proven dark elemental killer? the dark elemental champ rarely gets dethroned so either something must be killing it or the dude took it off himself.
    No Im just tossing out ideas. X)

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    Re: Elementals

    I'm looking for a Lightning Ele. After many plates I got these four that seem okay(but honestly feel lackluster). Which should I keep:

    *Damage Resistance +15%

    *Magic Attack Bonus

    *Magic Accuracy Bonus

    *Magic Attack+15%, Lightning Attack Bonus


    I assume Lightning Attack Bonus doesn't help very much and doesn't apply to spells.

    Which would you say is best and where do I go from here?

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    Re: Elementals

    funniest thing I've seen in the pit yet...

    Dark Elemental vs Puk

    The elemental was your standard drain spammer w/ stun/sleeping of enemy spells and WS's and extremely high dmg resistance.

    The puk was left BRD/??? which was the first lol moment of the fight, that is until I watched what was happening.

    Fights starts as normal, puk hits the elemntal for 0dmg and the elemental is working its way through the Instant Blink on the puk by melee attacks. Puk casts lullaby after 2 of its shadows are gone, elemental throws out stun and takes another shadow off. Then the puk started to casting finale, and what was really funny was it continued to spam finale not waking the elemental since it was hitting 0dmg until most the buffs were gone. It took a little under a minute of the fight for the puk to fully debuff the elemental. after that the puk started to hit for10-20dmg per hit, but it cast requiem about half way through and since it was spamming zephry Mantle the drain spam was useless (It also would use Windshear [or crosswind not sure which one] which did respectable 150ish dmg). The Puk won the fight with less than 10seconds in the match.

    Funniest damn thing I seen in a while, the guy that owned it was up there, what commands he gave I don't know, but he immedately withdrew and put something else up there, because I didnt see the puk fight in the third match (it won its second fight). The things temperment was Very Tame & Somewhat Aggressive.

    Probably not the best way to kill a Elemental, but definately entertaining lol.

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    Re: Elementals

    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    I'm looking for a Lightning Ele. After many plates I got these four that seem okay(but honestly feel lackluster). Which should I keep:

    *Damage Resistance +15%

    *Magic Attack Bonus

    *Magic Accuracy Bonus

    *Magic Attack+15%, Lightning Attack Bonus


    I assume Lightning Attack Bonus doesn't help very much and doesn't apply to spells.

    Which would you say is best and where do I go from here?
    keep trying for damage resist bonus innate, it's a godsend

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    Re: Elementals

    Looking for some advice towards my newly created dark element.

    Currently has both Damage Resistance and Resist Bind innates, but as far as adding on slides im not sure which path to choose. Im thinking ethier magic attack bonus and give it black mage scrolls for access to aga2s etc; or add on ice spikes and have it go down the spam drain path.

    other slides i plan to add regardless are instant stoneskin and phalanx.

    any advice? im also wondering what commands i should spam to get both attitudes, thanks.

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    Re: Elementals

    Spam drain = guard block parry hold
    Sleep TP moves/spells = think, then think again

    My plan is start as a ice spikes/phalanx/etc. tank, then at higher levels switch over to blm scrolls and give more aggressive commands. The tank set up is just too broken at lowbie pank, but I dunno how it'll stack up against magic casters (especially bhoots) later.

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    Re: Elementals

    This is my current dark ele setup at level 24:
    http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...7-14-21-57.jpg

    its currently somewhat tame/aggressive, so it usually starts fights with an aga or another random nuke. I have 19 free FP, with a max of 27 free FP at 50. Not sure what other slides to add to it, nothings been able to beat the setup i have.

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    Re: Elementals

    Really noob for pankration but .... do you need to give ele's blm scrolls for them to be effective?

    I wanted an ice ele spamming ice spells so I just let it level up a bit with ice attack bonus but it never casted so I gave it blm scrolls. Now its using more water than ice ;-;

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    Re: Elementals

    It helps alot but isn't needed. Helps with versatility if you fight an enemy resistant to ice and gives you more defensive choices (sleep,stun,drain).

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    Re: Elementals

    I too have a question, I have a thunder ele with the same specs as the one listed above , stoneskin phalanx scrolls with dmg resist bonus innate, leaving me with 27 points. What would you guys suggest?


    1.Magic Attack +15%

    2.Int + 25 and Subjob Something

    3.Para or Sleep Attack

    4.Instant Blink + Aquaveil?

    Im kind partial to 2 or 4, but what would you suggest.

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    Re: Elementals

    Aquaviel is useless, especially on elementals where things don't hit you hard.

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    Re: Elementals

    Quote Originally Posted by Reznap
    This is my current dark ele setup at level 24:
    http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...7-14-21-57.jpg

    its currently somewhat tame/aggressive, so it usually starts fights with an aga or another random nuke. I have 19 free FP, with a max of 27 free FP at 50. Not sure what other slides to add to it, nothings been able to beat the setup i have.
    What's your pet Temperment?

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    Re: Elementals

    his discipline is high, temperment is somewhat aggressive and somewhat tame. Thinking about adding instant shell and some killer effect to use up my last FP.

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    Question : do the following feral skills help boost damage on spells (this applies to all spellcasters not just elementals)

    <Insert Element Here> Attack Bonus
    <Insert Element Here> Attack + 15%

    Like, does "Darkness Attack Bonus" boost Drain, Aspir, Bio? does "Lightning Attack +15%" boost Thundaga, Thunder II, etc? Or is the only way to boost magic damage by using the "Magic Attack Bonus" & "Magic Attack +15%" plates? Also, if they DON'T affect spells, what all DO they affect, Enspell damage? Weaponskills? Thanks for the help ^^

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    I was wondering if light elementals could cast repose, thanks

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    Anyone know where I can find a dark elemental plate with innate Damage Resistance Bonus? I have tried over 200 plates, about 10 of them had Damage Resistance Bonus as an addable skill, but none of them turn into an innate ability.

    I have been mostly taking picture on the VT dark elementals in sky. They are BLM/ and I take them down to low hp before taking picture. I have tried both HQ and NQ plates. None of them seems to work.

    Thank you for any input.

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