Trainee Equipment

[aurik]

nq support is +2?!

[spooky]

lol @ adding an item that's more useless than NQ support.
What's the point?

[Minions]

lol @ adding an item that's more useless than NQ support.
What's the point?

Synth support for the sub craft?

[spooky]

lol @ adding an item that's more useless than NQ support.
What's the point?

Synth support for the sub craft?

Yeah, because you can't get support from other guilds right?

[Katalya]

lol @ adding an item that's more useless than NQ support.
What's the point?

Synth support for the sub craft?

who uses cooking as a sub? 8)

[Semitry]

lol @ adding an item that's more useless than NQ support.
What's the point?

Synth support for the sub craft?

Yeah, because you can't get support from other guilds right?

Not from 2 guilds at the same time. Also there's the lazy aspect. For instance you could T2 TM hooks without support. It's not like this thing costs 200k GP or something stupid.

[Antz]

Semi, i love you sig its awesome

[cdgreg]

nq support is +2?!

I was always under the impression NQ is 1 also. NQ support is 2?!
That would prove this completely wrong:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Synth ... ge_Support


Also I'm only a lolcook with no subs so I can't really test stuff, but if someone has time can you test if the trainee item is active when used with another skill+1 guild point item? Example a 60 skill level: level 77 synth with trainee item + GP +1 item with no support. If you are able to synth I imagine that proves its active. I don't mean to be annoying about this but apple pies which I synth on a regular basis for gil with bird eggs is a level 50 synth and I'm 99. So 99+ugly hat+trainee knife should be 101 or T3, I dont have the other GP items. I did 24 synths tonight and it was looking to be T2 instead of 3 but it's obviously a very small sample size so hard data would be appreciated. If no one has time I'll report back next time I do 5-10 stacks of ingredients and see if that looks more like a 50% HQ rate instead of 25%.

[cdgreg]

Well I did some further testing tonight since I was out of pies to sell. I'm wondering if no guild support is the latent, and/or if the latent is not activated when you wear a piece of guild armor that increases skill.

Synth
Apple Pie (50) w/Bird Eggs, not the 48 w/Lizard Eggs

Skill level
99 Natural Skill
+1 Chef's Hat
+1 Trainee's Knife (Latent?)
101 Skill
T3: 51 levels over the synth level

61 Total Synths
44 NQ
14 HQ
3 Breaks
HQ Rate = 23% <-Seems a lot more like T2 than T3

In a few days when I'm out again I'll scrap the knife, use hat + free support which should "guarentee" I'm at 101 and see if the figures are any different. I realize the sample size is still fairly small and this type of item really doesnt effect most "real" crafters, but this is bugging the hell out of me!

[Maxxthepenguin]

They could be useful for synthing on the field, IE Yag Drinks, Arrowheads, etc

[sleekmotorwurkz]

Useless....
Activates when your skill is less then 60 (might be <= 60) + no synthesis support.

[cdgreg]

Useless....
Activates when your skill is less then 60 (might be <= 60) + no synthesis support.

That makes a hell of a lot more sense thank you!

[nitsuj]

Why is there not an alchemy or clothcraft one?

[Duszek]

who uses cooking as a sub? 8)

sairui-ran
alchemy /cooking

[Rainesong]

was it ever confirmed if it was <60 or <=60?

[Naash]

Seems to me it's <60 as I was unable to desynth an Antica's pauldron (76) at natural skill 60, with Trainee Hammer and no support on.

[Naash]

Just tried another one, couldn't synth Mahogany Pole (68 ) at natural skill 52 with Trainee's Axe on. 52+15+1 should make 68 and allow synth...

Maybe this works if skill <=50?