Scholar Discussion attempt #2

[Crux (Bismarck)]

Even if helix from other SCH's don't stack, it's likely possible to have other SCH's using Modus Veritas on your helix.

[evilpaul]

There's Lv62+ SCHs now...anyone solo Ix'MNK yet? :D

[Kaeko]

Sorry if this was mentioned already, but what is the casting time and recast time for Helix spells?

[Havok]

Don't think I missed this, but could you check if the game day's element affects the helix spells the same way weather does?

[Enpsi]

How much mana do your current helix spells cost? I've heard rumors that they are around 300 MP.

[Khamsin]

How much mana do your current helix spells cost? I've heard rumors that they are around 300 MP.

Isn't it something like 278ish? Less than 300.

[SeraphusRagnarok]

Anyone try Helices on Brittle Rocks?

[Kohanacat]

How much mana do your current helix spells cost? I've heard rumors that they are around 300 MP.

The base cost is 87 MP, with Dark Arts actve they are 79 MP each. Geohelix, Hydrohelix and Anemohelix all cost the same so far. Pretty cheap!



Edit:

I got 66 today, tried out Accession > Reraise but it didn't work, incase anyone was curious about that.

[Toth]

Wow! To think how powerful these can be and that they aren't over 250 MP like everyone believed suddenly makes them even more attractive :D

[Tsuko_Asura]

Why on earth did people think they were so much?

[Maxxthepenguin]

...why the fuck did we think they were close to 300?

[Naramaska]

That's what people were "hearing" from whoever I guess.

At any rate...wow. 87mp? These are some damn nice spells. Kind of disappointing they don't stack since it means you'll only really want one SCH in your alliance for DoT's, but I can understand why given the potential damage of them.


Edit: Yes, I realize weather spam, but that's not really worth an extra SCH space-wise unless your alliance isn't full to begin with.

[Kaeko]

Even if the damage isn't boosted any further than what has been reported by Kohanacat, we're talking MP efficiencies in the 10+ damage/MP ratio... That's pretty much unheard of for even a BLM unless you MB or have rare weather/day situations. Since the cost is so low, I'm guessing the casting time is pretty reasonable as well.

I'm a bit disappointed that Accession Reraise doesn't work though

[Sho]

Thanks guys for rekindling my faith in this job, lulz.

[Lordwafik]

How much mana do your current helix spells cost? I've heard rumors that they are around 300 MP.

The base cost is 87 MP, with Dark Arts actve they are 79 MP each. Geohelix, Hydrohelix and Anemohelix all cost the same so far. Pretty cheap!



Edit:

I got 66 today, tried out Accession > Reraise but it didn't work, incase anyone was curious about that.

<3

(and yay for fellow australian scholar pioneer!)

[Genosync]

Looks like I need to start leveling faster. Damnit.

[Zilong]

Why on earth did people think they were so much?

incomplete dat mining show these spells at like 250s MP cost.

[Khamsin]

Why on earth did people think they were so much?

incomplete dat mining show these spells at like 250s MP cost.

Yeah, after the WotG prep-patch, .dats showed 278ish MP for each helix. I guess that got changed when we installed WotG, or a subsequent patch?

[ruf]

Early to say and hate speculation or guesswork, but does anyone else feel pretty impressed with the degree to which these jobs effectively do exactly what SE promoted them as doing (DNC being great frontline healer useful in small parties and SCH being a powerful DOT mage class)? It's like they actually tested them in real game situations.

Adding: really not saying this as a way to head back to the HNM/endgame debate that's come and gone repeatedly. Just honestly happily surpised at their current potential in exp/small groups.

[Genosync]

Early to say and hate speculation or guesswork, but does anyone else feel pretty impressed with the degree to which these jobs effectively do exactly what SE promoted them as doing (DNC being great frontline healer useful in small parties and SCH being a powerful DOT mage class)? It's like they actually tested them in real game situations.

Adding: really not saying this as a way to head back to the HNM/endgame debate that's come and gone repeatedly. Just honestly happily surpised at their current potential in exp/small groups.

not really because there's still numerous other things that the game has wrong but at least they don't fuck something up for once.