Scholar Discussion attempt #2

[Uzor]

As many folks know, you can't Curaga NPC groups.

But can you Scholar/WHM, Divine Seal, and then AoE a Cure IV or the like to heal NPC groups up in Besieged/Campaign?

Yes, Sch/Whm can Divine Seal + Accession a CureIV on NPC groups and heal all them within range.

Can you do the same to heal 64 people in a group in Dynamis? Or does it only work for your alliance?

[Delekii]

SCHs can't change to BLU.

Go to mog house.

Ok, you can go to mog house in the middle of a raid, while the rest of us make do with what resources we have.

what the fuck is a raid?


if you have to make up scenarios to find a use for a job, chances are that job needs a bit of changing

[Xisin]

there is a very simple way to test if a spell aoes or not after using manifestation, this also work with the light arts book. Simply use the JA then scroll down your spell list, if a spells mp increases then it can be ga'd if not it can't.

[Shredder]

As many folks know, you can't Curaga NPC groups.

But can you Scholar/WHM, Divine Seal, and then AoE a Cure IV or the like to heal NPC groups up in Besieged/Campaign?

Yes, Sch/Whm can Divine Seal + Accession a CureIV on NPC groups and heal all them within range.

Can you do the same to heal 64 people in a group in Dynamis? Or does it only work for your alliance?

No, only works for your own party and npc.

[Vigilia]

As many folks know, you can't Curaga NPC groups.

But can you Scholar/WHM, Divine Seal, and then AoE a Cure IV or the like to heal NPC groups up in Besieged/Campaign?

Yes, Sch/Whm can Divine Seal + Accession a CureIV on NPC groups and heal all them within range.

Can you do the same to heal 64 people in a group in Dynamis? Or does it only work for your alliance?

No, only works for your own party and npc.

It works on any party but just one party at a time from what I've seen. I was in campaign yesterday partied up with just my friend when a SCH near us did an Accession Cure III on my friend. Both me and him got cured which was pretty impressive. So yeah this leads me to believe you could "Curaga" other parties in places like Dynamis than your own. I can't wait to get 40 and test it out myself.

[LD]

and suddenly, SCH looks a little better. This pretty much means any spell that can target someone outside of your PT could be -Ga'd for them. Prot/Shell, Cures, -Na spells, all while the SCH could be in the mage PT.

[Naramaska]

Has anyone figured out when the extra clear mind + mp boosts are? Just wondering.

They follow the same pattern as WHM Clear Mind boosts I believe, given what i've seen from this thread and a few other places.

[Xno Kappa]

Would have been interesting for SE to give SCH's the spells Signit/Sanction/Sigil.

[Genosync]

Don't know if it's been said yet, haven't looked at the thread lately. But after testing Geohelix out on some lv0 mobs in windy, I noticed that for each INT the damage goes up by 1.2 dmg/INT, until a certain value which you start to get diminishing returns/it caps (don't have enough INT gear to test). I can tell it's one or the other (because taking off one INT from my max didn't make the damage change at all).

[Meian]

Sorry for asking this, checked the whole thread but didn't seem to notice if anyone figured out what the magic type is for the Helix spells.

[Genosync]

Something I'd like to know too.

[Plight]

As many folks know, you can't Curaga NPC groups.

But can you Scholar/WHM, Divine Seal, and then AoE a Cure IV or the like to heal NPC groups up in Besieged/Campaign?

Yes, Sch/Whm can Divine Seal + Accession a CureIV on NPC groups and heal all them within range.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6240/curagaom7.jpg

Hello Allied Notes. :bagel:

[Kirb]

Sorry for asking this, checked the whole thread but didn't seem to notice if anyone figured out what the magic type is for the Helix spells.

I could be wrong, but I seem to recollect somebody somewhere mentioning that they are Elemental.

[Meian]

Sorry for asking this, checked the whole thread but didn't seem to notice if anyone figured out what the magic type is for the Helix spells.

I could be wrong, but I seem to recollect somebody somewhere mentioning that they are Elemental.

Ahh, thought that was the speculation. I really hope that is the case

[Pergo]

sch does get clear mind 4 at lv65, just tested

[Sagacious Sundi]

Sorry for asking this, checked the whole thread but didn't seem to notice if anyone figured out what the magic type is for the Helix spells.

I could be wrong, but I seem to recollect somebody somewhere mentioning that they are Elemental.

I think that was just assumed because they can't be AoE'd. However, there are exceptions when it comes to healing (Raise/Reraise can't be AoE'd), so I don't see why there can't be exceptions for enfeebling and such.

[TT]

As many folks know, you can't Curaga NPC groups.

But can you Scholar/WHM, Divine Seal, and then AoE a Cure IV or the like to heal NPC groups up in Besieged/Campaign?

Yes, Sch/Whm can Divine Seal + Accession a CureIV on NPC groups and heal all them within range.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6240/curagaom7.jpg

Hello Allied Notes. :bagel:

does Rapture and Divine seal stack? and does Rapture work with anything other then cure spells? be amazing if you could triple the potency of SS or even bar-spells.

[Plight]

The first Cure IV there was with Rapture and Divine Seal; they do stack. Just tried it now to be sure, and it does not interact with Bar spells, Stoneskin, Regen, weather spells, or Silena in any way- like when other SCH JAs don't do anything, it isn't consumed by casting those spells.

[Lordwafik]

Is my math off, or isn't it possible to keep up weather for a party of BLMs fulltime?

2 charges that are 4 mins each, Weather lasts for 2 minutes, with 2 minute recast, if you hold the charges it'll go something like :

Alacrity(charge 1) > Thunderstorm

*2 mins later*

Alacrity(charge 2) > Thunderstorm

*2 mins later*

Alacrity (charge 1) > Thunderstorm

etc. Or am I missing something big here? In a BLM party there's no reason to cast anything else or save it for other spells (aside other weather effects).



Yesterday I hit 40 and it was so awesome to sneakga invisiblega my party, and when I was in a party with a shitty PLD with size 1 shield and RSE (after being spoiled by a good PLD with size3 and real armor) , I was able to do fun things like Alacrity > Aquaveil / Blink. I'm loving this job more and more the higher I get, although I do feel a bit naked with out stoneskin/blink naturally

[Plight]

Accession is the WHM AoE one, the problem is that it doubles recast also.