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  1. #21
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Imagine totems from WoW.

  2. #22
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    IIRC, Softstep does the "assist" as well. Calls in another Quadav, who bombs the area and then desummons.

    I've never seen someone stun/hit the assist- have to see if I can maybe Sleepga/AoE and tag the second turtle.

  3. #23
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyreth
    IIRC, Softstep does the "assist" as well. Calls in another Quadav, who bombs the area and then desummons.

    I've never seen someone stun/hit the assist- have to see if I can maybe Sleepga/AoE and tag the second turtle.
    It's actually a tandem attack. When Softstep uses Ore Lob his brother or whoever (it did have a similar name) just instantly pops and does Ore Lob at the same time. It's his special NM quirk. I would say it's on par with a SMN mob in limbus who has a pet ele out, but for astral flow an avatar pops, kills your tarus, then is gone in a flash. Never seen anyone stun or sleep those either.

  4. #24
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thufir
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyreth
    IIRC, Softstep does the "assist" as well. Calls in another Quadav, who bombs the area and then desummons.

    I've never seen someone stun/hit the assist- have to see if I can maybe Sleepga/AoE and tag the second turtle.
    It's actually a tandem attack. When Softstep uses Ore Lob his brother or whoever (it did have a similar name) just instantly pops and does Ore Lob at the same time. It's his special NM quirk. I would say it's on par with a SMN mob in limbus who has a pet ele out, but for astral flow an avatar pops, kills your tarus, then is gone in a flash. Never seen anyone stun or sleep those either.
    I have seen instances of summoner mobs such as Kirin pop their avatar for astral flow, but due to the tank being out of range, it stays out and follows them until its close enough to do the astral flow BP. I don't recall if anyone was able to target it or not, but I do recall no one stunned it despite how long it was out (several seconds while floating after the kiter).

  5. #25
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Thufir
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyreth
    IIRC, Softstep does the "assist" as well. Calls in another Quadav, who bombs the area and then desummons.

    I've never seen someone stun/hit the assist- have to see if I can maybe Sleepga/AoE and tag the second turtle.
    It's actually a tandem attack. When Softstep uses Ore Lob his brother or whoever (it did have a similar name) just instantly pops and does Ore Lob at the same time. It's his special NM quirk. I would say it's on par with a SMN mob in limbus who has a pet ele out, but for astral flow an avatar pops, kills your tarus, then is gone in a flash. Never seen anyone stun or sleep those either.
    I have seen instances of summoner mobs such as Kirin pop their avatar for astral flow, but due to the tank being out of range, it stays out and follows them until its close enough to do the astral flow BP. I don't recall if anyone was able to target it or not, but I do recall no one stunned it despite how long it was out (several seconds while floating after the kiter).
    you can target it. But I dont think you can do anything to it, I have seen time's where it has poped and floated around for about 3 seconds. I was able to target it one time but =/ I got smeard across the wall by Carbuncle before I could react=(

  6. #26
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron
    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Thufir
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyreth
    IIRC, Softstep does the "assist" as well. Calls in another Quadav, who bombs the area and then desummons.

    I've never seen someone stun/hit the assist- have to see if I can maybe Sleepga/AoE and tag the second turtle.
    It's actually a tandem attack. When Softstep uses Ore Lob his brother or whoever (it did have a similar name) just instantly pops and does Ore Lob at the same time. It's his special NM quirk. I would say it's on par with a SMN mob in limbus who has a pet ele out, but for astral flow an avatar pops, kills your tarus, then is gone in a flash. Never seen anyone stun or sleep those either.
    I have seen instances of summoner mobs such as Kirin pop their avatar for astral flow, but due to the tank being out of range, it stays out and follows them until its close enough to do the astral flow BP. I don't recall if anyone was able to target it or not, but I do recall no one stunned it despite how long it was out (several seconds while floating after the kiter).
    you can target it. But I dont think you can do anything to it, I have seen time's where it has poped and floated around for about 3 seconds. I was able to target it one time but =/ I got smeard across the wall by Carbuncle before I could react=(
    You can attack the summoned NM, but it won't stay even if you have hate, I tried stunning it and sleeping it, both got resisted, however, it didn't come and eat my brain after myself gaining hate on a neutral monster.

    As for the tubes, IMHO, it's NPC only, just one of these things to make the heroes look cool. Just like how Maxmillian doing impossible speed with dual wield =/= us getting permenant hundred fist on dual wield; Elivira using relic gun and spamming WS every 1 second doesn't mean RDM would get relic gun, marksmanship A+ and the hyper rapid shot with instant TP gain; or Zonpa-Zippa in Alchemist Apron doesn't mean that player-Alchemist can soon make Cardians that fight for them... It actually isn't too surprising for me that the SCH heroine got new models for those tubes, I mean, Elivira, Haja and whoever that Elvaan guy is have new head, and we have no way of getting those unless we .dat mod. What I am saying is, SE probably did make those special models just for the SCH heroine, as they did with the new heads.

  7. #27
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    If they were going to be usable, you would think her entire legion of sch would have access to them, but they do not. She also casts sleepga II and thundaga III, so I think they are just bastokan weapons given to her for battle.

    Staggershell can't be stunned, I have tried numerous times. I even waited ready just for him, but no luck. Spell did not go off, it just stops.

  8. #28
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by rath
    If they were going to be usable, you would think her entire legion of sch would have access to them, but they do not. She also casts sleepga II and thundaga III, so I think they are just bastokan weapons given to her for battle.

    Staggershell can't be stunned, I have tried numerous times. I even waited ready just for him, but no luck. Spell did not go off, it just stops.
    Sorta like how it does when you act too quickly on a newly popped mob?

  9. #29
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Some NMs have unique 2hours. There's one DRG Orc NM in Jugner or Batallia that during its 2 hour it just spams its "Jump" TP move every second for about a minute.

  10. #30
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by SeraphusRagnarok
    Some NMs have unique 2hours. There's one DRG Orc NM in Jugner or Batallia that during its 2 hour it just spams its "Jump" TP move every second for about a minute.
    That's not a 2hr... he does that from 100% -> 0%, I've co-tanked him a few times now on NIN. <_< He occasionally throws in a melee hit, about as often as Kirin does.

  11. #31
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Bumped with some justification.

    The scholar tubes are now in .dats

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=5420& ... =1&stack=0
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=5421& ... =1&stack=0
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=5422& ... =1&stack=0


    An ingenious levitating smart-mine conceived of by Bastokan officer Adelheid Sturm. Causes only nearby enemies to become (Insert debuff here) upon detonation.

  12. #32
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Players can buy them as rank1 temp campaign items. Check the campaign thread.

  13. #33
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    Re: New/Unseen Scholar Spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynplaine
    Players can buy them as rank1 temp campaign items. Check the campaign thread.
    How very dissapointing. Thank you for enlightening me!

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