Campaign Ops Discussion

[Gwynplaine]

Yeah, the assault-style ops were done incredibly poorly. Not only did they use pre-existing textures and construction sets to build them, but they're not even tested and adjusted properly for difficulty.

Once we entered it was a freaking joke. We went with a 75 RDM, 75 SAM, and 65 NIN. The 3 Quadav that attacked didn't even touch the NPC. So little of the zone (which wasn't very big at all anyway) was actually used, just one room and a tunnel leading to it. They came running at us right away, I'd estimate 1500 HP and 0 def. They're like, level 50 monsters. I could've solo'd it on SAM without any trouble.

Probably because they're made for lower levels to complete as well. Hence the awesome 100~exp. It just seems like they've foregone the method of suggesting, or setting level caps and it will probably just become more difficult gradually. Despite what SE has stated, the existing content seems to be for a very wide spread level range and not the higher end.

[Kaylia]

100 xp is one EM worth of xp, for something that usually takes 30min to complete (gathering team, going to location, do the fight and come back). It stupid.

[Edrick]

Crimson Domino can suck my nuts for Jugner Forest (S)... I checked the entire freaking map, and not a single ??? to be found... I swear, this game hates me. ; ;

Has anyone seen the Crimson Domino ??? in Jugner Forest (S)? If so, please please please let me know, so I don't hang myself tonight...

[Kaslo]

100 xp is one EM worth of xp, for something that usually takes 30min to complete (gathering team, going to location, do the fight and come back). It stupid.

They could just give you 0 like they do with assaults...

[Stolin]

Crimson Domino can suck my nuts for Jugner Forest (S)... I checked the entire freaking map, and not a single ??? to be found... I swear, this game hates me. ; ;

Has anyone seen the Crimson Domino ??? in Jugner Forest (S)? If so, please please please let me know, so I don't hang myself tonight...

All I'm going to say is wow you picked the worst possible zone to find a random ??? in.

[Judai]

100 xp is one EM worth of xp, for something that usually takes 30min to complete (gathering team, going to location, do the fight and come back). It stupid.

They could just give you 0 like they do with assaults...

You actually gain some exp in most Assaults from killing the mobs. Not too mention that you get much better points that actually go to good rewards. Bad comparison.

[Kaylia]

100 xp is one EM worth of xp, for something that usually takes 30min to complete (gathering team, going to location, do the fight and come back). It stupid.

They could just give you 0 like they do with assaults...

They could indeed, and it wouldnt change a thing.

[Edrick]

Crimson Domino can suck my nuts for Jugner Forest (S)... I checked the entire freaking map, and not a single ??? to be found... I swear, this game hates me. ; ;

Has anyone seen the Crimson Domino ??? in Jugner Forest (S)? If so, please please please let me know, so I don't hang myself tonight...

All I'm going to say is wow you picked the worst possible zone to find a random ??? in.

QFMFT... >< I just wanted to give supplies to the area that needed the most supplies...

[Kaylia]

Crimson Domino can suck my nuts for Jugner Forest (S)... I checked the entire freaking map, and not a single ??? to be found... I swear, this game hates me. ; ;

Has anyone seen the Crimson Domino ??? in Jugner Forest (S)? If so, please please please let me know, so I don't hang myself tonight...

All I'm going to say is wow you picked the worst possible zone to find a random ??? in.

QFMFT... >< I just wanted to give supplies to the area that needed the most supplies...

I'm almost certain I saw a "???" around K-9 near Vunkerl zone. If the "???" spawn randomly, I dunno where it is, but if it's a static location, it might be the one you're looking for.

http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/maps_norma...er-forest2.jpg

[Yutuyu]

The missions obviously scale up in xp, but unless they start scaling a lot faster it really won't matter.

It shouldn't take you a month of doing Ops just to gain a merit point, and as is from the highest reward I've gotten it would take you longer.

160 was the most I've ever gotten from one. Doing that daily for 30 days doesn't even amount to half a merit.

[Judg]

Just did Delta Strike I (B) for Bastok. Seemed fairly easy in terms of fighting and travel. Went out to H-10 of North Gustaberg on Lv75 NIN and touched the ??? to pop a Gob NM. Had a lot of HP but missed practically 90% of the time, as for how much it hits for I don't know cause it never hit me lol. Took about 5 minutes to kill and touched ??? to received 160 limit points and roughly 580 Allied Notes. I got more tags and gonna try to do the new ones that opened up since last Sunday later.

edit: Just did Hawk Eye I (B). Had to go to a ??? in a Beastmen controlled area with Quadavs. Had to check the ??? without Sneak or Invis and put me in a "lock" for about 10-15 seconds while your character is "gathering intel." Also it turns on /blockaid during the thing and turns it off when it ends. When you're done you get 90 limit points (got 90 exp instead of limit even though I was capped exp so might be a bug or something) and 480 Allied Notes.

I'll post more as i do more of the new ones and see what I get.

[VZX]

Was expecting to have some new campaign ops show up tonight... nope, It's the night of my promotion,
before promotion -> no new campaign ops
after promotion to allied ribbon of bravery -> no new campaign ops.

[Judg]

I'm fairly sure the number of controlled areas, or which specific areas that Bastok control/doesn't controll affects which Campaign Ops are available. Might have some other factors but I'm not too positive on it. My only lead is that last Saturday I only had 3 Ops opened. When conquest rolled around I had about 10 more added to my list.

[ircgeek]

I'm fairly sure the number of controlled areas, or which specific areas that Bastok control/doesn't controll affects which Campaign Ops are available. Might have some other factors but I'm not too positive on it. My only lead is that last Saturday I only had 3 Ops opened. When conquest rolled around I had about 10 more added to my list.

Nope. We're down to only controlling North Gusta on Diabolos, and I had access to the Streetsweeper/Hawk Eye Ops following the Sunday tally (about 2 hours after the tally to be precise). Those ops haven't been available to me since Sunday, nor have I seen them since the expansion launch when Bastok actually had three areas controlled.

Didn't check Recon on Sunday, but it's currently at 0 (not that it always appears that affects missions either).

[Edrick]

Can anyone confirm if the ??? for the Crimson Domino Ops mission is static? I see on both wiki's agree on the location for the East Ronfaure (S) Crimson Domino for Sandy.

Oh, and I can confirm that after speaking with a gate sentry, if you try to go to another zone, the sentry there will give you the same response (OMG WE GOT JACKED!), but when you go to the ??? location "Nothing out of the ordinary." comes up... I finally went to sandy and said "F THIS PIECE OF CRAP" to the ops guy, and he said "Ok, I'm sure you have your reasons." Secretly, I'm cursing Jugner...

Anyway, anger management issues aside, it looks like once you start a zone, you need to finish it in the same zone. I didn't go back to check to see if I could complete the mission in jugner before tossing the mission. I'll check again later around that middle entrance to Vunksomething Inlet, though, and see if the ??? is up there. I found the Batallia ??? in the same location as another in this thread and I found the E. Ronfaure one in the exact same place as well. I'm leaning towards this being static, but confirmation would be nice.

PS: F U Jugner Forest (S)!!!... Ok, I feel better now.

[Bulletbeast]

When I did Crimson Domino for Windurst, I picked West Saruta_S since it's obviously the fastest to do for me. Not sure if starter zones are different then other areas.

I had to do was find the npc at Fort Karugo zoneline, she gave me the campaign supplies, walk to the fortification tower (where outpost in w.saruta is in present time), talk to that npc, she takes supplies and gave me exp/limits. Head back to Cobra Command to get my Allied Notes.

Took me literally 2 minutes at best to do. No searching any zones for hours on end for ??? to get supplies.

[Edrick]

When I did Crimson Domino for Windurst, I picked West Saruta_S since it's obviously the fastest to do for me. Not sure if starter zones are different then other areas.

I had to do was find the npc at Fort Karugo zoneline, she gave me the campaign supplies, walk to the fortification tower (where outpost in w.saruta is in present time), talk to that npc, she takes supplies and gave me exp/limits. Head back to Cobra Command to get my Allied Notes.

Took me literally 2 minutes at best to do. No searching any zones for hours on end for ??? to get supplies.

I wonder if it's random, then, or if it's based on how strong the supply routes are. I'm guessing the ??? is located in the same spot every time, but whether or not the person will give you supplies off the bat may be random...

I think I'll suggest to San d'Oria that the supply routes need to be strengthened, because supplies don't seem to be getting to some of the forts... >.> Like *cough*Jugner*cough*...

Jugner Forest (S)

[Evelyn]

I did for windurst as well, except I went to Fort Karugo-Narugo for mine. Same thing, just got the supplies to run up. On my server, windurst has a pretty firm control of things everywhere except sauro and meriph I believe.

[Bulletbeast]

Might be some confusion with Crimson Domino.

I never had to do anything in west saruta_S with a ???. Npc at Fort zoneline gave me the supplies, I took those supplies to another npc and completed that campaign op. Nothing to do with ???, so I'm slightly confused why you have to look for a ??? to get supplies in jugner_S, or anywhere for that matter.

[tenriotaru]

Anyone know where the Batalia downs Ensign is? Trying to do Granite Rose for San D'Oria.