WotG Storyline Discussion (Spoilers)

[Septimus]

Rokbel Akbel is Carbuncle. $10

Or is he really... Rocl!

[Kyreth]

The speech pattern doesn't necessarily have to mean it is Shantotto, the npc who does the fenrir and tuning in/out quests talks in the same style.

Officially, Shantotto is in the Northlands.

This is a lie (and confirmed so in game). By being a "mystery "man" ", it means Shantotto can (being the military mind of Windurst, if you haven't noticed) decieve the Kindred forces while protecting the Federation and providing the critical leadership (and massive firepower) needed to defeat the Yagudo. Nobody officially admits Shantotto was anywhere else but far away, and the bad guys get to deal with the "ghost" lurking near the Shadowlord's domain and the Warlock "Warlord" who's rallied the Windurstian regulars.

You don't leave your ace (and next to the Sibyl, the most politically favored Windurstian) Black Mage in the cold when your capital city just got raked over by the birdbrains- and if it wasn't a double-crossing act of deception, Shantotto would be front and center in the campaign battles if for no other reason than mass Yagudo incinerators are great for morale.

[Khamsin]

The speech pattern doesn't necessarily have to mean it is Shantotto, the npc who does the fenrir and tuning in/out quests talks in the same style.

Officially, Shantotto is in the Northlands.

This is a lie (and confirmed so in game). By being a "mystery "man" ", it means Shantotto can (being the military mind of Windurst, if you haven't noticed) decieve the Kindred forces while protecting the Federation and providing the critical leadership (and massive firepower) needed to defeat the Yagudo. Nobody officially admits Shantotto was anywhere else but far away, and the bad guys get to deal with the "ghost" lurking near the Shadowlord's domain and the Warlock "Warlord" who's rallied the Windurstian regulars.

You don't leave your ace (and next to the Sibyl, the most politically favored Windurstian) Black Mage in the cold when your capital city just got raked over by the birdbrains- and if it wasn't a double-crossing act of deception, Shantotto would be front and center in the campaign battles if for no other reason than mass Yagudo incinerators are great for morale.

Shantotto would unbalance campaign, anyway. She'd just cast Thundaga III and all the Yagudo would die, and 30 second campaigns are no fun.

[Amele]

Rokbel Akbel is Carbuncle. $10

there's the name. other npcs refer to the bandaged taru as Rokbel Akbel. who is one of the senior war warlocks in windy right now.

[Kyreth]

Shantotto would unbalance campaign, anyway. She'd just cast Thundaga III and all the Yagudo would die, and 30 second campaigns are no fun.

Coincidentally, this is exactly what happens at the end of the Windurstian mission #3- one shot Yagudo torching/freezing/zappings.

[Araius]

She'd just cast Stone and all the Yagudo would die

Fixed for accuracy

[Teakwood]

Where's it stated that Shantotto's *not* in the Northlands? I know that she winds up there -eventually- with a recon team (BLM AF storyline), but I'm not exactly sure -when- that is in the chronology and I didn't pick up on the Shantotto thing being a lie. Although, Rokbel-Akbel being Shantotto wouldn't exactly surprise me, there's an NPC in the present who talks about Rokbel-Akbel having had a seat in Parliament, which afaik Shantotto also had, so that kind of points to them not being the same person. >.>

[Rocl]

Kayeel-Payeel (The Claustrum General) bitches in the present about there being no current Warlock Warlord, about how his seat's been empty for twenty years. And I'm sorry, but I find Rokbel Akbel = Shantoto to be a bit far-fetched, it is entirely possible that there are other people as skilled in magic as Shantoto, you know. Shantoto has to be in the Northlands eventually, in Castle Zvahl with one of Karuha Baruha's dolls. (Is that the Fenrir guy's name? I can never remember) This also has to be before the fall of the Shadowlord, and from what I understand it took place reasonably early in the war. I'll go check my cutscenes in a bit to see if I can't dig anything up.

[Gilthas]

I thought that the BLM AF cutscene in Zvahl was during the final assault against the Shadow Lord?

[Malacite]

The speech pattern doesn't necessarily have to mean it is Shantotto, the npc who does the fenrir and tuning in/out quests talks in the same style.

Didn't scream Shantotto to me, and it's a little more subtle than Shantotto seems to be.

Next update needs to get here soon, want moar story time nao.

You did that on purpose didn't you >. >

[Kyreth]

Where's it stated that Shantotto's *not* in the Northlands? I know that she winds up there -eventually- with a recon team (BLM AF storyline), but I'm not exactly sure -when- that is in the chronology and I didn't pick up on the Shantotto thing being a lie. Although, Rokbel-Akbel being Shantotto wouldn't exactly surprise me, there's an NPC in the present who talks about Rokbel-Akbel having had a seat in Parliament, which afaik Shantotto also had, so that kind of points to them not being the same person. >.>

If you go to Fort K-N when it's not in battle mode, talk to the Tarutaru NPCs. One of them will tell you that Shantotto has secretly returned to Windurst.

And if she's the Warlock Warlord, it explains why the seat's been "vacant" for so long. "Rokbel-Akbel" is ready whenever Windurst needs "him".

[Amele]

Kayeel-Payeel (The Claustrum General) bitches in the present about there being no current Warlock Warlord, about how his seat's been empty for twenty years. And I'm sorry, but I find Rokbel Akbel = Shantoto to be a bit far-fetched, it is entirely possible that there are other people as skilled in magic as Shantoto, you know. Shantoto has to be in the Northlands eventually, in Castle Zvahl with one of Karuha Baruha's dolls. (Is that the Fenrir guy's name? I can never remember) This also has to be before the fall of the Shadowlord, and from what I understand it took place reasonably early in the war. I'll go check my cutscenes in a bit to see if I can't dig anything up.

karaha baruha is the hero of windurst and the one who summoned(will summon? lol) fenrir yeah.

I'm pretty sure rokbel is a different guy than shantotto. and I'm pretty sure he gets his ass kicked at some point leading to the empty seat. (I'm fuzzy on what happened to the previous war warlock)

[Max™]

The speech pattern doesn't necessarily have to mean it is Shantotto, the npc who does the fenrir and tuning in/out quests talks in the same style.

Didn't scream Shantotto to me, and it's a little more subtle than Shantotto seems to be.

Next update needs to get here soon, want moar story time nao.

You did that on purpose didn't you >. >

I actually did not intend to rhyme, though I will again this one time.

[Malacite]

orz

/wrist

[Kyreth]

[quote=Max™]

The speech pattern doesn't necessarily have to mean it is Shantotto, the npc who does the fenrir and tuning in/out quests talks in the same style.

Didn't scream Shantotto to me, and it's a little more subtle than Shantotto seems to be.

Next update needs to get here soon, want moar story time nao.

You did that on purpose didn't you >. >

I actually did not intend to rhyme, though I will again this one time.[/quote:3he140tj]

You're so taru-ible.

[Malacite]

The speech pattern doesn't necessarily have to mean it is Shantotto, the npc who does the fenrir and tuning in/out quests talks in the same style.

Officially, Shantotto is in the Northlands.

This is a lie (and confirmed so in game). By being a "mystery "man" ", it means Shantotto can (being the military mind of Windurst, if you haven't noticed) decieve the Kindred forces while protecting the Federation and providing the critical leadership (and massive firepower) needed to defeat the Yagudo. Nobody officially admits Shantotto was anywhere else but far away, and the bad guys get to deal with the "ghost" lurking near the Shadowlord's domain and the Warlock "Warlord" who's rallied the Windurstian regulars.

You don't leave your ace (and next to the Sibyl, the most politically favored Windurstian) Black Mage in the cold when your capital city just got raked over by the birdbrains- and if it wasn't a double-crossing act of deception, Shantotto would be front and center in the campaign battles if for no other reason than mass Yagudo incinerators are great for morale.

Shantotto would unbalance campaign, anyway. She'd just cast Thundaga III and all the Yagudo would die, and 30 second campaigns are no fun.

Someone needs to do BLM AF :3

[Toth]

Rokbel Akbel can be rearranged to spell 'Karbebonkle' which is not far from Carbuncle. I smell another Alz. Ruins = Alexander connection. Plus I wouldn't put it past that atomic squirrel to mess up time to ensure things stay the way he likes it.

[Amele]

Rokbel Akbel can be rearranged to spell 'Karbebonkle' which is not far from Carbuncle. I smell another Alz. Ruins = Alexander connection. Plus I wouldn't put it past that atomic squirrel to mess up time to ensure things stay the way he likes it.

that's... quite a stretch

[Koyuki]

Rokbel Akbel can be rearranged to spell 'Karbebonkle' which is not far from Carbuncle. I smell another Alz. Ruins = Alexander connection. Plus I wouldn't put it past that atomic squirrel to mess up time to ensure things stay the way he likes it.

It can also be rearranged to spell Berlok Belak, what does that have to do with anything? Not a goddamn thing.

[Khamsin]

Rokbel Akbel can be rearranged to spell 'Karbebonkle' which is not far from Carbuncle. I smell another Alz. Ruins = Alexander connection. Plus I wouldn't put it past that atomic squirrel to mess up time to ensure things stay the way he likes it.

that's... quite a stretch

Plus, I had enough problems dealing with Carbuncle Prime's double-cross in Waking the Beast. I don't think I could handle him being the villain of an expansion.