NFL Week 13 Picks *Big Game Week*

[Keno]

Can't blame em though. Bart Scott is a dumbfuck to throw the Ref's flag into the stands, lol.

No, he just snapped. Think about it, you play unbeleviable football. You're fucking worn out, and you get two penalties on HUGE plays? Think about it.

Nope, unacceptable answer. He's still a fucking adult, he needs to act like it.

I agree with pohi.... Nothing worse you can do then let your emotion throw the game.

Wow patriots almost lost.... and by 2 yards

Playing football through grade school and high school, emotions will get in the way in close games like this. Some people can control it better than others obviously...Usually the people with big ego's will go a little nuts.

The Ravens defense was fired up via their leaders Ray Lewis and Ed Reed playing the game of their lives for former teammate Sean Taylor and I think the rest of the defense tried to match it, especially when the game was coming down to the wire.

But if you really think about it, the penalties possibly helped the Ravens. It made it so the clock didn't run at all on the kick off (Even though the Ravens return game was doing a decent job all night, I don't think they would have got much better field position to be honest). Like I said, possibly, anything could have happened, but returned kick offs run at least 5-10 seconds off the clock.

PS: Damn you Rex for calling that time out.
PSS: Damn you Patriots for false starting on the next play because Maronie got fuckin stuffed.
PSSS: Gaffney was juggling that touchdown pass.

PS stands for "Post Script". To add additional comments one should indicate PPS for "Post-Post Script", PPPS for "Post-Post-Post Script", etc.

[Belkin]

Thanks

[Keno]

Thanks

np. Hows AV doing btw?

[Belkin]

Panda Tea Party

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[Koyuki]

4) This guy is a moron (Edit: I'm leaving my original quote, although I rescind it, but man, we lost)

So...

Pats are 12-0
Sox won their 2nd WS in 4 years
Celtics have the best record in the NBA

I <3 being from New England. Keep the hate coming, it'll entertain me tomorrow morning at work.

Did his avatar of his butt lover give it away?

[Tyche]

Now everyone is expecting the Steelers to make it a game next week, and the pats will hit the half century mark. Just skip the rest of the season and bring on the indi/dallas rematch.

[Belkin]

I want them to blow out the Jets or the Dolphins before I see the Indy or Dallas rematch. Like 77 - 0 blowout.

[Keno]

I want them to blow out the Jets or the Dolphins before I see the Indy or Dallas rematch. Like 77 - 0 blowout.

Meh, Pats will win out until the AFC Championship when Payton gets his sweet revenge.

[Ishido]

What makes you think that they would have started on the 22 if they didn't have those 30 yards tacked on? NE could have just as easily stopped them at the 20 or prior...

Of course there is the chance, the point is returning it past the 20 is not rare. I'm not blaming the loss on the second 15 yard penalty, there are 3 other single instances in the game that affected the outcome far more than that penalty, but it did not help their chances.

[Keno]

What makes you think that they would have started on the 22 if they didn't have those 30 yards tacked on? NE could have just as easily stopped them at the 20 or prior...

Of course there is the chance, the point is returning it past the 20 is not rare. I'm not blaming the loss on the second 15 yard penalty, there are 3 other single instances in the game that affected the outcome far more than that penalty, but it did not help their chances.

I'm not so sure if I agree with you. If they were kicked the ball and given a chance to return, even if they did make it to the 25 or 30 it would have eaten up a lot of the clock. They may not have even gotten that last pass play off. But we don't deal with what-ifs here... And of everything that happened in the 4th quarter, those yards tacked onto the kick were the least of their worries.

[Plow]

LOL @ Tom Brady's comment on ESPN.

"Did you know they called a timeout, etc"

"I heard the whistle blow. I'd have gotten the first down if they didn't."

As much as I dislike the Patriots and Brady in particular, I have to admit the whole time they were crying about that I was sitting there thinking "man I heard the whistle blow and very clearly saw Brady slow and stand up straight," he basically turned away from the play in reaction.


That holding call was just beyond ridiculous though.



Seriously though get rid of Billick. He took over playcalling because they weren't scoring enough touchdowns when the fact of the matter is, with that defense all you have to do is keep them from being on the field too much and put up a few field goals. Tonight's game against the best offense in the league proved that quite clearly.


When I heard the pats were 20 point favorites I almost posted saying this would be the end of their perfect season, you don't tell Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, and co that they're losing by 20 points, period. And the reality is on that 4th down play to the end zone they won the damn game.

[Demosthenes11]

I don't get how the fuck you people are saying it was bad officiating >.>
T.O. was obviously called
There was obviously a false start
On the holding call, the defender had jersey in his hand the whole way; even all the announcers and ESPN people are saying that call was completely obvious.
With the T.D., it was pretty close, but I think the biggest part of it was Gaffney looking at the ground. You don't look at the ground unless you have possession of the ball and patriot fan or not - I think he had pretty good control of the ball.

The officiating wasn't bad at all...

[Keno]

I don't get how the fuck you people are saying it was bad officiating >.>
T.O. was obviously called
There was obviously a false start
On the holding call, the defender had jersey in his hand the whole way; even all the announcers and ESPN people are saying that call was completely obvious.
With the T.D., it was pretty close, but I think the biggest part of it was Gaffney looking at the ground. You don't look at the ground unless you have possession of the ball and patriot fan or not - I think he had pretty good control of the ball.

The officiating wasn't bad at all...

I think most people are bitching about the coaching? The penalties are just unfortunate mishaps... I don't think anyone was trying to say the refs did a bad job.

[tyven]

hey look, something to make people sicker than the way tonights game ended

myspace page for the fucking faggots that killed sean taylor.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=255825181

seriously, wtf is wrong with people.

[Deejay]

It was just a series of unfortunate events for the Ravens. If any defense is going to stop the Pats it was Baltimore's imo. They held the Colts to what, 9 points last post season? I don't think the Steelers are going to play as well Baltimore did even though their ranked number 1. Big Ben's hasn't been playing all that great lately. He's doing enough to win games though. I don't know, I think the Pats are going to try and prove a point against Pitt after their last 2 games.

[Demosthenes11]

Ravens: The fix was in for Patriots

December 4, 2007 12:22 AM

Posted by ESPN.com's Mike Sando from Baltimore

Just returned from the Ravens' locker room. Those guys are ticked off. They said the league wants the Patriots to win, to the point that officials make calls favoring New England with the game on the line. They said Tom Brady sells tickets for the league, so the league wants Brady and the Patriots to stay unbeaten. I'll start posting the direct quotes momentarily. Refresh the blog periodically and you'll see them as they post.

Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs on officiating: "Everybody is kind of cheering for them to go undefeated and break all the records. They called them the greatest offense on earth. So who knows? ... They made one more play than us and they got a little help."

Suggs on the timeout attributed to the Ravens, which gave New England another chance on fourth down aver Baltimore appeared to stop Tom Brady short on a sneak: "You only get a few times to really get the NFL's poster boy in that type of situation. I don't know. It looked like all 22 men on the field played as if no timeout was called. But if it was called, it was called. I don't get into that part of the game. I just do my job."

Suggs on officiating: "It's kind of the feeling of the 2001 tuck rule. It kind of feels like the tuck rule. That is the NFL for you, man. When they got a guy like that that is selling a lot of tickets, you want to keep him selling tickets."

Ravens linebacker Bart Scott on the timeout: "I didn't hear a timeout. That was very convenient."

Scott: "We outplayed them, plain and simple. We punched them in the mouth on both sides of the ball."

Ravens receiver Derrick Mason: "Allow the players to dictate how the game is going to go, especially the last couple of seconds. It's kind of like basketball. There's three seconds on the clock. Let the guys play. The best team is going to win. You don't let outside circumstances dictate how the game is going to go. It's hard to play against the best team in the NFL and beat them. You are out there and working hard. You are playing against them and then also you have the other guys and it seems you are playing against them, also."

More from Mason on officiating: "I'm going to take it back to last game. San Diego. Quinn Sypniewski runs down the field, runs into one of their DBs, we catch the ball and they call offensive pass interference. OK. Great. This game, same things happens. Randy Moss runs right into Samari Rolle. They call defensive pass interference. I don't understand that. One game it's called one way, the next game it's called another way. At the end, you have a phantom call. That's why it's hard to play and win a game when you are playing against more than just the best team in the NFL."

More from Mason on how hard it is to beat the Patriots: "It's kind of like that old Bulls team when they were running the tables. You were playing against Jordan, Pippen and the bunch and it was hard to beat them because everyone was on their side. That's the way it is now. You've got Brady and the bunch. It's hard to beat them when you're playing against them and extra people."

Mason on whether the refs can get caught up in talk of an undefeated season: "I think everybody can get caught up. You should have heard some of the verbal blasts we were taking from the refs. It was just despicable. They don't want us to say anything to them, but they treat us like we're little kids out there, saying anything they want to say. As players, we can't say anything back. We can't report it to anybody because it's our word against theirs. But you have to give it up to New England. They did what they had to do. They scored at the end and that's all you can ask of a team."

Ravens cornerback Chris McAlister on whether the NFL wants the Patriots to win: "They get a lot of calls. I'll say that. We've been watching film on them all week and I mean, they do get a lot of calls. As far as the NFL wanting them to win, you can't totally not think about it in those terms."

Ravens running back Willis McGahee: "I felt like we played our hearts out tonight and got some bogus calls, but it is what it is."

McGahee on which calls bothered him the most: "Shhh. Pass interference, the holding on (Jamaine) Winborne. There was a lot. I can't even remember them all."

Ravens coach Brian Billick spoke with reporters for only about a minute after the game. Asked why the Ravens called timeout before stuffing Brady on fourth down, Billick said, "We didn't feel like we were in the right configuration, kind of knew what they were going to do and felt like we needed a better call, I guess." It wasn't clear what he meant. Asked which person called the timeout, Billick said, "We called the timeout." Asked if the calls just didn't seem to go the Ravens' way late in the game, Billick said, "Yeah, evidently not."

Asked about what he said to Scott about tossing an official's flag into the stands, Billick said, "You've gotta be smarter than that. Can't be a dumb football player."

I'll leave you with a comment overheard from a veteran player: "You might as well crown them the Super Bowl champs if it's going to be like that."

http://myespn.go.com/profile/hashmarks? ... ots-ravens

Grow a fucking dick you cocksuckers. It's fucking mindboggling how completely stupid professionals can be.

[Deejay]

hey look, something to make people sicker than the way tonights game ended

myspace page for the fucking faggots that killed sean taylor.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=255825181

seriously, wtf is wrong with people.

One of my friends is from Fort Myers. He's got the same attorney as one of the kids who was in the car when they left. The mexican is the one who killed him and the other 3 were supposed to be lookout. However the driver is said to still be free.

Edit: And you're crazy if you think the Pat's didn't get bailed out.

[tyven]

NFL gonna be quite busy this week handing out so many fines to all these players bad mouthing their officials and throwing their laundry into the stands. i really thought the calls were legit, its just a shame that it took those calls to save the patriots, fucking gut wrenching. winbourne(sp) is gonna be kicking himself for a loooong time for committing that defensive holding on a guy that wasnt even involved on the play... away from the play penalties that have a major effect on the game are heart breaking.

[Belkin]

Grow a fucking dick you cocksuckers. It's fucking mindboggling how completely stupid professionals can be.

I don't want to sound ignorant, because I don't know you. But honestly, I think any one of us would bitch too if we were in that situation after we did all that work they did in that game. They did exactly what one of the players said -- Punched the Patriots in the mouth on both sides of the ball. It's a DAMN shame the Patriots only won because of a holding call away from the play that had no bearing whatsoever on the pass that got deflected. If you were in that same exact situation in a game, you would undoubtedly be extremely upset. Don't try and pretend like you would act differently.

[Ishido]

Grow a fucking dick you cocksuckers. It's fucking mindboggling how completely stupid professionals can be.

I have no idea why a lot of people hate Pats fans. No idea at all.