Puerto Rico is close to statehood. Jealous yet, Canada?

[SupHammer]

Well, when you yanks can waltz into any hospital's ER with a case of the sniffles or suffering a heat attack, get treatment, and not pay a cent out of your pocket all without extended medical coverage, then you can start ragging on our healthcare system.

We can. It's called welfare. It's a main reason why our(read: honest, hard-working citizens) insurance rates are so high.

[Niiro]

why would canada care?

Because Canadians secretly love paying out the nose for inadequate health care, placing their lives in the hands of an institution that is more interested in making money than helping people.

I hope your kidding because we pay less per person by far than you guys do. Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_a ... s_compared : "Government and private health and public policy analysts have compared the health care systems of Canada and the United States.[1][2][3][4] In 2004, per-capita spending for health care in the U.S. was more than double that in Canada: in the U.S., it totaled US$6,096; in Canada, US$3,038.[5] "

Well, when you yanks can waltz into any hospital's ER with a case of the sniffles or suffering a heat attack, get treatment, and not pay a cent out of your pocket all without extended medical coverage, then you can start ragging on our healthcare system.

I will concede that it's not the world's best and I would like to see the option of a totally separate private system open up in Canada that receives zero dollars from municipal, provincial, or federal governments. That way rich folks who feel they can afford private care to get things done faster can open up more spots in the public queues to get the average Canadian needing a hip replacement or cancer treatment through that much faster. During my political volunteering I've had the chance to speak with some MPs who are doctors and endorse a very tightly regulated, not-funded, private system that runs in parallel to the public system. The first best steps would be for diagnostic work, that shit can take forever to get through the queue and can easily be taken over by private clinics without compromising the public system.

Anyways, that's a really short and disjointed recap of some very complicated policies.

Alleya was ragging on our health care system, not yours.

Canadians are stupid.

I think we need to add [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags for them.

[sephir]

Im just sensative to the issue because quite a few people in my family have lived because of it. Guess I suck at reading sarcasm when it comes to the issue.

[Elesirdur]

Im just sensative to the issue because quite a few people in my family have lived because of it. Guess I suck at reading sarcasm when it comes to the issue.

Ditto I suppose. I can't think of any better way than opening up a controversial debate on healthcare to make a Canadian get riled up. The public health system constantly ranks #1 on the list of important political/public issues in polling. However, I really hate that mentality because it causes such political stagnation over modifying the health system; all the MPs or MLAs are scared shitless of getting voted out of office because they want to talk about healthcare at a serious level instead of just "blah blah blah more funding blah blah our system's awesome"


Oh, and back regarding the OP I was expecting this to be a topic about how Canada's not a sovereign nation just because our constitution sets up Canada as a constitutional monarchy and the title of Queen Elizabeth II, the Canadian head of state, is 'Her Majesty, Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada', or more fully and officially Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. (Bit of a mouthful if you ask me)

[oxx2]

the comment certainly didn't sound very sarcastic

should definetly add those /sarcasm tags

[Maxxthepenguin]

the comment certainly didn't sound very sarcastic

should definetly add those /sarcasm tags

Alleya is a sarcasm tag

[Kazen]

Pretty sure it was well known that anything with "Alleya" meant sarcasm. Sorta like anything with Gulkeeva means... well thats something else all together but you see where I'm going with this.

[oxx2]

noted for future reference

[Marsala]

Puerto Ricans do not currently pay taxes and do not vote for U.S. president, but they do receive welfare and unemployment benefits and pay Social Security. Puerto Ricans also serve in the U.S. military.

GTFO or GTFI

You make it sound like PR actually has a choice in the matter.

They do. It's called lobbying. Lawmakers are most always swayed by such displays in one way or another.

[Khamsin]

Puerto Ricans do not currently pay taxes and do not vote for U.S. president, but they do receive welfare and unemployment benefits and pay Social Security. Puerto Ricans also serve in the U.S. military.

GTFO or GTFI

You make it sound like PR actually has a choice in the matter.

They do. It's called lobbying. Lawmakers are most always swayed by such displays in one way or another.

Lobbying only works if your supporters can vote.

[sb]

Well, when you yanks can waltz into any hospital's ER with a case of the sniffles or suffering a heat attack, get treatment, and not pay a cent out of your pocket all without extended medical coverage, then you can start ragging on our healthcare system.

My last visit to the emergency room cost me $175 dollars, just to see the doctor. This doesn't even include into other costs (medicine and treatment).

[Khamsin]

My last visit to the emergency room cost me $75 total.

[Boyiee]

My last visit to the emergency room cost me $75 total.

Mine was free. Granted I work there. My last visit due to an injury was also free though, actually, In a few months it will pay me a few grand.

[Alleya]

why would canada care?

Because Canadians secretly love paying out the nose for inadequate health care, placing their lives in the hands of an institution that is more interested in making money than helping people.

I hope your kidding because we pay less per person by far than you guys do. Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_a ... s_compared : "Government and private health and public policy analysts have compared the health care systems of Canada and the United States.[1][2][3][4] In 2004, per-capita spending for health care in the U.S. was more than double that in Canada: in the U.S., it totaled US$6,096; in Canada, US$3,038.[5] "


But I think this commonwealth thing is kind of BS. They act almost exactly like a state as is, but cant vote for their representation in the elections.

So much woosh...

I was saying canada is jealous because they want to pay out the nose etc etc...

It's called irony, and it's a dying art.

[Elesirdur]

So much woosh...

I was saying canada is jealous because they want to pay out the nose etc etc...

It's called irony, and it's a dying art.

Perhaps to the non-Canadians, but for us up north your original statement is a pretty common understanding of how Americans view our healthcare policies and how American anti-socialized healthcare advocates attack our system.

[MisterBob]

I pay a whole $20/mo out of my salary and get quick and efficient health care. No waiting in stupid lines while some old dude with a cold goes in ahead of me, etc.


<3 American health care, its treated me well

[Viq]

I can't think of any better way than opening up a controversial debate on healthcare to make a Canadian get riled up.

Hockey sucks

[Charla]

I can't think of any better way than opening up a controversial debate on healthcare to make a Canadian get riled up.

Hockey sucks

There we go, +8 pages.

[Kuya]

Only thread in BG that has ever made me feel disgusted. Bunch of north americans making statements without even possessing full knowledge of the history between PR and US relations. I'm surprised you people even know we exist. Btw, statehood is never going to happen. Also, chances of me posting in this thread again, about 98% right now.

[Charla]

Be nice, Kuya. I'm sure a few of us read your other threads about Puerto Rico's status and therefore understand at least a little about the issue.