In that case, focus on the bolded section.Originally Posted by Odon
In that case, focus on the bolded section.Originally Posted by Odon
I know one seemingly happily married couple that are "swingers", and it seems to work out just fine for them. I think two things are crucial for this to work - both people need to actually be the rare types that don't get emotionally attached from sex. They also both need to be emotionally attached to each other in other ways, and be able to truly enjoy the pleasure that their partner gets from swinging. Most people just aren't wired for this. Also, from an ethics standpoint, full disclosure (both to each other and to the 3rd parties) and obligatory condom usage should be the rule of law.
If it works for you however, and it's not just some deluded attempt to "cheat without cheating", then I'm not one to judge. As long as the emotional satisfaction comes from home, not from the "swinging" aspect of the relationship I think it can work fine.
Like most of you though, it would be very difficult for me to be ok with the idea of my girlfriend orgasming with another guy - but I definitely know that I like girls who -are- emotionally attached to sex. I want my cock to be home base.![]()
Originally Posted by archibaldcrane
LoL
rofl this post describes how I feel in perfect words.Originally Posted by Mizango
Generally speaking, a bad idea, and will more than likely end in failure and the destruction of your relationship... idk, why even be in the relationship in the first place?
For swingers, it's because the relationship provides the emotional satisfaction that you need. Relationships serve more of a purpose than -just- providing a avenue for sex.Originally Posted by Day
Fuck buddies
Why would you have someone you call your girlfriend, that you sleep around on and they do the same? Cut the relationship thing, become friends with benefits until you find someone that you don't want to cheat on.
According to Loveline, it only works if they're both sex addicts. Your explanation sounds plausable, but you could also just be describing what sex addicts seem like to a stranger. /agreed with the rest of the post.Originally Posted by archibaldcrane
edit: this is about swingers, not "open relationships". The difference is that swingers find other couples instead of acting like they're single half the time.
edit 2: I'm pretty sure Drew was only talking about straight relationships at the time as well. Gay guys are a completely different situation.
I kind of like both ends of the spectrum.
On one side, I can seperate sex and emotion and have no religious/societal blocks on swinging/open relationships.
On the other side I am very territorial (not jealous) and like being the central foundation in my wife's physical/emotional life, as I think it is an important part of our relationship and I love her.
Best advice I can give is have your GF/Wife have an open relationship.. with other woman. You dont have to worry about who they bring home because you can just have fun with them too. They still look to your wang as the wang of power. And there is no room for jealousy when your both enjoying the same person.
But good luck finding a nice bi female that is looking for a couple to please, few and far between.
It would help if she isn't insane too. Cause that's the easiest way to find the girl you just described, and it gets bad really fast.Originally Posted by Neosutra
Loveline, while occasionally being valuable for bringing "taboo" sexual subjects into the open, also does occasionally suffer from "shock-jock" syndrome, where they find the most outlandish explanation for things.Originally Posted by Charla
Ya, a woman thats not crazy, gl with that one.Originally Posted by Charla
Have you ever seen a lesbian couple? Or watched that one show um.. the "L word" or something. Its the most epic drama filled crap pot of stupidity you have ever seen. That is why you have a man there to keep the crazy meter from reaching critical.
(Not to say that men arent fucked up in their own way as well)
/facepalm - please don't let television skew your opinions of lesbian relationships...Originally Posted by Neosutra
having a committed relationship where both partners are allowed to have sex with other people and actually are having sex with other people.Originally Posted by Odon
both partners should be doing it, not just one. if it's just one way it will inevitably end very badly. if it's just one person, that just means one partner is highly submissive and the other is a manipulative prick. i'd classify that more as an abusive relationship than an open relationship.Originally Posted by Odon
honesty, it should be something that's talked about, if either partner feels the need to start hiding it than it's already failing.
not really. i think open relationships are possible given the right couple. it would never work for me and it would not work for anyone i know IRL, but i don't doubt it can work for a very small number of people that exist in this world.Originally Posted by Odon
and i'm sure that there are people who say they are in an open relationship as a cover to cheat, and that's bs.
if it bothers you in anyway to think about your partner screwing someone else than you're not fit to be in a real open relationship. (which presumably is 99.9% of people in existence today).
It takes a lot of trust between the individuals as well as a lot of confidence. If you (or her/him) are the type that has even a remote amount of jealousy or insecurity, it's doomed.
I've been in open an relationship before. They can work fine, especially if you are from different perspectives. For example, I'm 30 years old, and (last year) I dated a woman who was 9 years younger than me. I don't want to, nor have the energy to go out every night and party anymore, but with her youth she did. Being in an open relation allowed us to enjoy some time together and opened the door to something more.
However, this could not have worked if had any doubts that I could trust her to be smart about her decisions (and vise versa).
I will say, such a commitment is not for everyone.
I have been around many lesbian couples and the show is pretty much dead on >.>.Originally Posted by archibaldcrane
In-fucking-sane.
Personally I just think that because Dr. Drew specializes in addiction medicine and deals with addicts all day, he chalks 2/3 of stuff up to addiction. Most of the time he's right, given the kind of stuff he's talking about, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time. If the "shock-jock" effect is significant, it's probably unintentional. Adam got all his humor from his own personality (and still does), and Striker just tries to stay quiet until he sees a chance to make a throwaway one-liner. This is part of the reason I stopped listening last year.Originally Posted by archibaldcrane
Loveline is a crock of shit on this particular topic. Wiki defines an addiction as "An addiction is a recurring compulsion by an individual to engage in some specific activity, despite harmful consequences to the individual's health, mental state or social life"
My open relationship has harmed none of these things, and I am not a sex addict.
Agreed, just because you have a freedom, doesn't mean you have to take it. It was incredible to take an open relationship to one thats not open, in that the trust/honesty has been established (at least in my case).
Been there, do that.
1) Protection, protection, protection. Use condoms. Period.
2) Understand in advance that there are things each of you enjoy that the other one doesn't or is incapable of, and stop being a jealous prick when other people can ALSO make your partner happy in bed. My girlfriend also happens to like women. I have no problem with that, and if I have no problem with her being in bed with another person, then the sex of that person doesn't matter to me as well. As long as rule #1 is followed. If you have an "open" relationship with someone who's idea of extra sex is barebacking the local mandingo's club, you better be getting everybody tested weekly cause it's not an "open relationship", she's an amateur porn star.
3) I happen to enjoy having a partner that occasionally enjoys other people's company, yet also happens to blow my mind in bed. I happen to think that other people find her hot to be quite the turn-on, and that she finds ME that attractive too.
4) Not at all for everybody. Expect 90 percent of your potential open relationships become exclusive or ex-boy/girlfriends inside of six months. If not more. It really does take a mindset most folks don't get....and I was happily married and exclusive for six years beforehand. (Widower now.)
5) As always, YMMV.