blue mage tanking question

[Segepor]

What r the key spells for getting hate and keeping it?

[Tonko]

Define a level?

@ 75 Exuviation, Actinic Burst, and Magic Fruit and good choices, don't know much past those.

[Segepor]

75 blu like tanking a HNM like tiamat or jorm or faf and stuff

i hear Exuviation and healing breeze is good but idk if 2 spells will cut it lol

[sb]

In long duration fights BLU will have trouble tanking, mostly due to the high MP/hate ratio of their spells.

[Delekii]

In long duration fights BLU will have trouble tanking, mostly due to the high MP/hate ratio of their spells.

not true

Actinic Burst, 24MP, ~1000VE
Exuviation, 40MP, 640CE/640VE
Jettatura, 37MP, ~1000VE
Blank Gaze, 24MP, 320CE

Every 15-20 minutes, Exuviation can be diffused for 3840CE/VE (or at least, 640*the number of party members hit for each). If you do get to hit 6 people with it, thats an instant boost of almost 7000 total enmity, which is the amount given by invincible (though I think Invincible is either all CE or all VE? Can't remember).

Magic fruit is cheaper and more mp efficiant than cure4

Not to mention, BLU gets native conserve MP (effectively saving 7% of all MP spent over time) and auto refresh.

The only spells that PLD use for hate are flash and cures - BLU has equivalents that are equally MP/hate efficiant. They also have better MP efficiency by having both the above traits, and start off with atleast twice the MP, if not 3 times. In contrast, PLDs have fucking awesome shield skill coupled with shield mastery, chivalry, cover which restores MP with appropriate gear, and other wicked job abilities. Both are fully capable tanks in similar situations a lot of the time. The same is also true of PLD/WAR and BLU/WAR - BLU gets up to higher defense than PLD and has a lot more -damage% (Terra, Umbra etc), but again PLD has shield skill and shield mastery.

[LinktheDeme]

In long duration fights BLU will have trouble tanking, mostly due to the high MP/hate ratio of their spells.

not true

Actinic Burst, 24MP, ~1000VE
Exuviation, 40MP, 640CE/640VE
Jettatura, 37MP, ~1000VE
Blank Gaze, 24MP, 320CE

Every 15-20 minutes, Exuviation can be diffused for 3840CE/VE (or at least, 640*the number of party members hit for each). If you do get to hit 6 people with it, thats an instant boost of almost 7000 total enmity, which is the amount given by invincible (though I think Invincible is either all CE or all VE? Can't remember).

Magic fruit is cheaper and more mp efficiant than cure4

Not to mention, BLU gets native conserve MP (effectively saving 7% of all MP spent over time) and auto refresh.

The only spells that PLD use for hate are flash and cures - BLU has equivalents that are equally MP/hate efficiant. They also have better MP efficiency by having both the above traits, and start off with atleast twice the MP, if not 3 times. In contrast, PLDs have fucking awesome shield skill coupled with shield mastery, chivalry, cover which restores MP with appropriate gear, and other wicked job abilities. Both are fully capable tanks in similar situations a lot of the time. The same is also true of PLD/WAR and BLU/WAR - BLU gets up to higher defense than PLD and has a lot more -damage% (Terra, Umbra etc), but again PLD has shield skill and shield mastery.

is there a chart with all the CE and VE of a vast majority of actions and spells?

[Clash Perez]

Here's the thread discussing the enmity testing. Within the links there is a list of the spells/JAs tested.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25804

[Segepor]

thx ^^