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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
    What about the National Center for Policy Analysis, who signed their checks?
    http://www.ncpa.org/abo/board/

    James C. Thompson, Jr.
    Chairman of the Board - Thompson Petroleum Corporation
    Yup, no conflict of interest here!

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Some ideas to think about

    David Keith: A surprising idea for "solving" climate change

    http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/192

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=4zpgai0n0cI&feature=related

    little Lewis black stand up on Global warming(sort of)

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
    What about the National Center for Policy Analysis, who signed their checks?
    http://www.ncpa.org/abo/board/

    James C. Thompson, Jr.
    Chairman of the Board - Thompson Petroleum Corporation
    Yup, no conflict of interest here!
    Hmm, I missed that. Thats only 1/14 people though.

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
    What about the National Center for Policy Analysis, who signed their checks?
    http://www.ncpa.org/abo/board/

    James C. Thompson, Jr.
    Chairman of the Board - Thompson Petroleum Corporation
    Yup, no conflict of interest here!
    Hmm, I missed that. Thats only 1/14 people though.
    Are the other 13 Greenpeace volunteers, forest conservationists, animal activists, and chairmen of the board for renewable resource energy companies?

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
    What about the National Center for Policy Analysis, who signed their checks?
    http://www.ncpa.org/abo/board/

    James C. Thompson, Jr.
    Chairman of the Board - Thompson Petroleum Corporation
    Yup, no conflict of interest here!
    Hmm, I missed that. Thats only 1/14 people though.
    He also represents a lot of different interests too. On top of that there is value to have someone who is a part of that industry to analyze the impact of what they say, its not like he makes up the majority of the board as swampdonkey said. You may not agree with his presence but it would be more bizarre if there was no one from the energy industry on the board of directors.

    * Managing General Partner, Double "T" Oil & Ranch, L.P., which owns and operates ranches in Denton, Crockett and Hood Counties, Texas as well as Conejas County, Colorado.

    * President and Chairman of the Board, Thompson Petroleum Corporation, engaged in the oil and gas exploration and production business.

    * Board Member, National Center for Policy Analysis, 1999 to present.

    * Director, Texas Capital Bank, 1999 to present.

    * Director, Texas Capital Bankshares, 2001.

    * Director, NorthPark National Bank in Dallas, 1964 through 1989, serving on Loan and Discount Committee.

    * Chairman of the Board and founding stockholder, Crockett National Bank, from 1983 to present.

    * Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the Hatton W. Sumners Foundation since 1974. The Foundation, which is located in Dallas, Texas, currently administers over 85 full law/government scholarships at 10 universities.

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
    What about the National Center for Policy Analysis, who signed their checks?
    http://www.ncpa.org/abo/board/

    James C. Thompson, Jr.
    Chairman of the Board - Thompson Petroleum Corporation
    Yup, no conflict of interest here!
    Hmm, I missed that. Thats only 1/14 people though.
    Are the other 13 Greenpeace volunteers, forest conservationists, animal activists, and chairmen of the board for renewable resource energy companies?
    Don't know, but all the stuff in the PowerPoint can be checked if you think its bullshit.

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
    What about the National Center for Policy Analysis, who signed their checks?
    http://www.ncpa.org/abo/board/

    James C. Thompson, Jr.
    Chairman of the Board - Thompson Petroleum Corporation
    Yup, no conflict of interest here!
    Hmm, I missed that. Thats only 1/14 people though.
    I decided to click on some of the names and found this:

    http://www.ncpa.org/abo/board/bwright.html "He is President of TWG, Inc. that has entities in healthcare, aviation, real estate, oil and gas and internet technologies."

    so thats 2/14 now? im still looking up the rest.

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    Yep, 1+1 = 2 and theres 14 total so that equals 2/14. I look forward to seeing the rest.

    Edit: Don't forget to check all their sources as well. They may have biased interests in the report, but if their sources are all legit does it still matter?

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD
    What about the National Center for Policy Analysis, who signed their checks?
    http://www.ncpa.org/abo/board/

    James C. Thompson, Jr.
    Chairman of the Board - Thompson Petroleum Corporation
    Yup, no conflict of interest here!
    Regardless of my opinions, and that's not to say that the guy shouldn't have any part in this sort of thing, but, that made me lol.

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Quote Originally Posted by GRT
    I mean everybody I talk to always say stuff like "despite scientists who argue against global warming," and the funny thing is nobody actually knows what those counter arguments are
    Because they're disregarded, considering those scientists have their checks signed by Exxon mobile?

    Maybe you should talk to your prof about the importance of not reporting lies and distortion as a mean of objectivity.
    Or maybe they don't get hours and hours of air time because news companies know that fear = ratings and so why give people a reason to not be scared for their lives?

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    John C. Goodman, President, NCPA
    Maybe you over looked who the president. Any one who was in The Big Lobowski cant be evil.

    And did anyone think that maybe the Mr. Thompson's Petroleum Corp. was actually developing ways for burning oil cleaner and more efficiently. I mean i know it's probably not true, but damn everyone is so quick to attack.

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by SupHammer
    John C. Goodman, President, NCPA
    Maybe you over looked who the president. Any one who was in The Big Lobowski cant be evil.

    And did anyone think that maybe the Mr. Thompson's Petroleum Corp. was actually developing ways for burning oil cleaner and more efficiently. I mean i know it's probably not true, but damn everyone is so quick to attack.
    Wasn't attacking, just pointing out there's a conflict of interest, which casts a shadow of bias on any recommendations he makes to congress on behalf of his own financial interest.

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    Wasn't attacking, just pointing out there's a conflict of interest, which casts a shadow of bias on any recommendations he makes to congress on behalf of his own financial interest.
    Well that was kinda my point. You don't know if it's a conflict of interest, as you have no idea what kind of work Thompson does. And congress and bias will always be intertwined , there's no separating the two.

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by SupHammer
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    Wasn't attacking, just pointing out there's a conflict of interest, which casts a shadow of bias on any recommendations he makes to congress on behalf of his own financial interest.
    Well that was kinda my point. You don't know if it's a conflict of interest, as you have no idea what kind of work Thompson does. And congress and bias will always be intertwined , there's no separating the two.
    He owns an oil company and is producing materials that, if bought by people making public policy, will directly affect him financially. There's a lot of self-interest in what he does and while it's not against the law to make money, he's certainly hiding behind the aegis of a 'non-partisan research group' in order to line his pockets. That's gotta set off a few alarms.

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Quote Originally Posted by SupHammer
    John C. Goodman, President, NCPA
    Maybe you over looked who the president. Any one who was in The Big Lobowski cant be evil.

    And did anyone think that maybe the Mr. Thompson's Petroleum Corp. was actually developing ways for burning oil cleaner and more efficiently. I mean i know it's probably not true, but damn everyone is so quick to attack.
    Wasn't attacking, just pointing out there's a conflict of interest, which casts a shadow of bias on any recommendations he makes to congress on behalf of his own financial interest.
    Whatever, its your choice to make an un-nuanced analysis. Gorbachev was a reformer who opened up the markets, and he was also a communist.

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    Funding

    Foundations gave the following amounts to the National Center for Policy Analysis think tank in 2005: [3]

    * Sarah Scaife Foundation - $125,000
    * Earhart Foundation - $40,000
    * Armstrong Foundation - $45,000
    * The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc. - $195,000
    * Gordon and Mary Cain Foundation - $25,000
    * Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation - $25,000

    The NCPA web site states that in 2006 it receives 62% of its funding from foundations, 21% from corporations, and 17% from individuals. [4] Between 1985 and 2005, the Center received $8,499,850 in 161 separate grants.

    Previous years:

    * Castle Rock Foundation
    * Earhart Foundation
    * JM Foundation
    * Koch Family Foundations (David H. Koch Foundation, Charles G. Koch Foundation, Claude R. Lambe Foundation)
    * John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
    * Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
    * Philip M. McKenna Foundation, Inc.
    * Scaife Foundations (Scaife Family, Sarah Mellon Scaife, Carthage)
    * DaimlerChrysler Corporation Fund
    * El Paso Energy Foundation
    * ExxonMobil Foundation
    * Eli Lilly and Company Foundation
    * Lilly Endowment
    * Procter & Gamble Fund
    Yes, their cheques literally were signed by Exxon Mobil at one point.

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    So, so far we have 2/14 directors that could be biased, and 1/14 money givers that has a special interest? Also have all the sources of the information at the end to.

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    Don't forget also El Paso Energy and DaimlerChrysler, and the rest of them who knows, but probably.

    In case you aren't aware of their business plan, these think tanks basically earn their money by shilling.

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    Re: Global Warming is teh TRUTH

    What is shilling?

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