Endless debate

[Exoduso]

Bingo. Nobody wants them, the Palestinians are unskilled and uneducated, they would be a burden to whatever country would take them in. They in fact have home countries to return too, the west bank was taken from Jordan, the Golan heights Syria and Gaza from Egypt. There was no Palestinian people they were 3 separate countries that had land taken as a spoil of war.

... oh wow, you are an exceptionally compassionate human being.

They can't stay in their own lands, and they can't go anywhere else. They should just all die to make it easier for everyone else.

That's not the point... the point is that they would indeed become a burden to any arab country that would have to take them in, and for that exact reason all those nations support their cause because they know that as long as they support them they're going to keep fighting like idiots for something they'll never achieve (getting all the jews out of there... good luck with that), and in the meantime they don't have to deal with them and take them in themselves...It's much easier throwing them on somebody else, and it's very convenient for them because Israel just so happens to be the only non-arab country in the middle east.

The Palestinians would've left a looooong time ago if Jordan or Lebanon would just taken them in.

[guartz]

That's not the point... the point is that they would indeed become a burden to any arab country that would have to take them in, and for that exact reason all those nations support their cause because they know that as long as they support them they're going to keep fighting like idiots for something they'll never achieve (getting all the jews out of there... good luck with that), and in the meantime they don't have to deal with them and take them in themselves...It's much easier throwing them on somebody else, and it's very convenient for them because Israel just so happens to be the only non-arab country in the middle east.

The Palestinians would've left a looooong time ago if Jordan or Lebanon would just taken them in.

... I can use the same logic and say, why didn't USA or Brit. take in all those Jewish refugee's in the 1950s?

And to say that Arab countries support the conflict only to keep Palestinians fighting is like saying that Israeli government wants to keep palestinians fighting just to keep marshall law over a very rich nation.

[Keno]

That's not the point... the point is that they would indeed become a burden to any arab country that would have to take them in, and for that exact reason all those nations support their cause because they know that as long as they support them they're going to keep fighting like idiots for something they'll never achieve (getting all the jews out of there... good luck with that), and in the meantime they don't have to deal with them and take them in themselves...It's much easier throwing them on somebody else, and it's very convenient for them because Israel just so happens to be the only non-arab country in the middle east.

The Palestinians would've left a looooong time ago if Jordan or Lebanon would just taken them in.

... I can use the same logic and say, why didn't USA or Brit. take in all those Jewish refugee's in the 1950s?

And to say that Arab countries support the conflict only to keep Palestinians fighting is like saying that Israeli government wants to keep palestinians fighting just to keep marshall law over a very rich nation.

I don't see the correlation. Care to elaborate?

[guartz]

I don't see the correlation. Care to elaborate?

Very simple. He was implying that it is somehow beneficial for other arab states that palestine keeps fighting, and I said yea, just like it's beneficial for a israeli prime minister to forgo any due process in the name of national security.

[Keno]

I don't see the correlation. Care to elaborate?

Very simple. He was implying that it is somehow beneficial for other arab states that palestine keeps fighting, and I said yea, just like it's beneficial for a israeli prime minister to forgo any due process in the name of national security.

I understood perfectly what you said, but I still fail to see the connection between those two things. Are you merely pointing out that it is beneficial to Israel and surrounding non Palestinian countries that they stay at war?

[Faris]

Are you muslim guartz? Or, at least, Islamic?

Whats an Islamic?

And for the people who say Palestinians are a burden on Arab nations. Can we say the same thing about the Jews after the Holocaust? Nobody wanted to take them, so they dumped all in the middle east.

Its a well military strategy to occupy a land in the middle of the middle east. Then you got Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey, Gulf countries (UAE, Kuwait, Saudi, Bahrain, Qatar) all those countries give the U.S military support. America got us by the balls, how is that not beneficial?
Man, this is way too deep than you think. This whole thing is just a big silent war. West vs. East. atleast thats what i think.

[guartz]

I understood perfectly what you said, but I still fail to see the connection between those two things. Are you merely pointing out that it is beneficial to Israel and surrounding non Palestinian countries that they stay at war?

Yes, it gives Israeli government authoritarian like powers over it's citizens. But my point, which you seem to be missing somehow, is that saying surrounding Arab nations benefit from palestinian conflict is just as ridiculous.

And if you still (edit: can't) put this together, I can't help you.

[Keno]

I understood perfectly what you said, but I still fail to see the connection between those two things. Are you merely pointing out that it is beneficial to Israel and surrounding non Palestinian countries that they stay at war?

Yes, it gives Israeli government authoritarian like powers over it's citizens. But my point, which you seem to be missing somehow, is that saying surrounding Arab nations benefit from palestinian conflict is just as ridiculous.

And if you still put this together, I can't help you.

Oh, well you're wrong. Surrounding Arab nations certainly do benefit from Israeli's staying there. If the Israeli's left, they'd obviously have to go somewhere, and none of the surrounding Arab nations want them, so yes, it would be considered beneficial to them if the Israeli's weren't forced out of the land.

[Meat]

Are you muslim guartz? Or, at least, Islamic?

Whats an Islamic?

And for the people who say Palestinians are a burden on Arab nations. Can we say the same thing about the Jews after the Holocaust? Nobody wanted to take them, so they dumped all in the middle east.

They're not? Operation Solomon, Joshua, Moses, ect. Where is the Muslim equivalent?

[guartz]

I understood perfectly what you said, but I still fail to see the connection between those two things. Are you merely pointing out that it is beneficial to Israel and surrounding non Palestinian countries that they stay at war?

Yes, it gives Israeli government authoritarian like powers over it's citizens. But my point, which you seem to be missing somehow, is that saying surrounding Arab nations benefit from palestinian conflict is just as ridiculous.

And if you still put this together, I can't help you.

Oh, well you're wrong. Surrounding Arab nations certainly do benefit from Israeli's staying there. If the Israeli's left, they'd obviously have to go somewhere, and none of the surrounding Arab nations want them, so yes, it would be considered beneficial to them if the Israeli's weren't forced out of the land.

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Go to sleep, wake up and reread the topic and edit accordingly. lol

G'nite :D

[guartz]

Are you muslim guartz? Or, at least, Islamic?

Whats an Islamic?

And for the people who say Palestinians are a burden on Arab nations. Can we say the same thing about the Jews after the Holocaust? Nobody wanted to take them, so they dumped all in the middle east.

They're not? Operation Solomon, Joshua, Moses, ect. Where is the Muslim equivalent?

This is totally different and you know it. The differences are probably too numerous to list, but the few major ones are: Willingness. Jews migrated willingly. ww2 conflict was over, palestine/israeli isn't over. Jews didn't have specific land, palestinians did.

[Faris]

Are you muslim guartz? Or, at least, Islamic?

Whats an Islamic?

And for the people who say Palestinians are a burden on Arab nations. Can we say the same thing about the Jews after the Holocaust? Nobody wanted to take them, so they dumped all in the middle east.

They're not? Operation Solomon, Joshua, Moses, ect. Where is the Muslim equivalent?

you mean arab equivalent. Palestinians do not want to leave their land?

Poor Rachel Corrie would be really sad to see there are still people who actually think Israel's actions are just.

[Keno]

I understood perfectly what you said, but I still fail to see the connection between those two things. Are you merely pointing out that it is beneficial to Israel and surrounding non Palestinian countries that they stay at war?

Yes, it gives Israeli government authoritarian like powers over it's citizens. But my point, which you seem to be missing somehow, is that saying surrounding Arab nations benefit from palestinian conflict is just as ridiculous.

And if you still put this together, I can't help you.

Oh, well you're wrong. Surrounding Arab nations certainly do benefit from Israeli's staying there. If the Israeli's left, they'd obviously have to go somewhere, and none of the surrounding Arab nations want them, so yes, it would be considered beneficial to them if the Israeli's weren't forced out of the land.

...

Go to sleep, wake up and reread the topic and edit accordingly. lol

G'nite :D

Hah, I'm pretty doped up on Tylonel PM right now so maybe I'm missing something. About to fall asleep, will read it when I wake up.

EDIT: Just reread it... I inferred too much when you said, "...is that saying surrounding Arab nations benefit from palestinian conflict is just as ridiculous." I assumed you meant Palestinian conflict specifically with Israel. Am I still not getting what you are saying?

[Faris]

NO! YOU STAY AWAKE AND READ THENWHOLE THREAD AGAIN UNTIL YOU AGREE WITH ME, YOU INFIDEL!

kiddin' goodnite hater!

[Keno]

NO! YOU STAY AWAKE AND READ THENWHOLE THREAD AGAIN UNTIL YOU AGREE WITH ME, YOU INFIDEL!

kiddin' goodnite hater!

G'night my brotha from anotha motha. Well, more like from another country, but same idea.

[Blarg]

Are you muslim guartz? Or, at least, Islamic?

Whats an Islamic?

And for the people who say Palestinians are a burden on Arab nations. Can we say the same thing about the Jews after the Holocaust? Nobody wanted to take them, so they dumped all in the middle east.

Its a well military strategy to occupy a land in the middle of the middle east. Then you got Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey, Gulf countries (UAE, Kuwait, Saudi, Bahrain, Qatar) all those countries give the U.S military support. America got us by the balls, how is that not beneficial?
Man, this is way too deep than you think. This whole thing is just a big silent war. West vs. East. atleast thats what i think.

Islamic is what happens when you quickly reply while studying for finals for too many hours.

[Rocl]

When guartz started posting I stopped reading though one thing stuck out; Apparently nobody wanted the jews after the holocaust and we made Israel, right? Clearly we should create Palesrael.

PS: I've always wanted to visit the UAE so I'm so gonna call you when I finally go Firas I'll totally jihad all over something

[archibaldcrane]

When guartz started posting I stopped reading though one thing stuck out; Apparently nobody wanted the jews after the holocaust and we made Israel, right?

Again, this is a misconception - jews didn't all decide, across many different countries, to emigrate to what is now known as Israel because "noone else wanted them" - for the most part they could've stayed in the countries they were from before the holocaust. Rocl might've just been saying this to set up his palesrael joke though

[Faris]

When guartz started posting I stopped reading though one thing stuck out; Apparently nobody wanted the jews after the holocaust and we made Israel, right? Clearly we should create Palesrael.

PS: I've always wanted to visit the UAE so I'm so gonna call you when I finally go Firas I'll totally jihad all over something

Come, we'll pull a jihad on the cafe SFLS members play in.

[Rocl]

When guartz started posting I stopped reading though one thing stuck out; Apparently nobody wanted the jews after the holocaust and we made Israel, right? Clearly we should create Palesrael.

PS: I've always wanted to visit the UAE so I'm so gonna call you when I finally go Firas I'll totally jihad all over something

Come, we'll pull a jihad on the cafe SFLS members play in.

You'll have to teach me how to do that ALALALLALALALALLAALLALALALA thing though