Jorm issues

[ondori911]

Our LS did jorm again last night and ran into issues at 22%. The fight overall isnt hard but around that point Horrid roar friggin sucks. How do you guys get through that? Noticed that alot of ppl (Mages mostly) start getting draw-in like crazy.

We must be missing something.. how do you go about the last 25% or so?

Thanks in advance.

[Naramaska]

Our LS did jorm again last night and ran into issues at 22%. The fight overall isnt hard but around that point Horrid roar friggin sucks. How do you guys get through that? Noticed that alot of ppl (Mages mostly) start getting draw-in like crazy.

We must be missing something.. how do you go about the last 25% or so?

Thanks in advance.

Don't feed him TP?

[Eaglestrike]

Lots of THF's for mages.

[Takashi]

I'll be nice and actually give something in return >.>

I don't think our solution is good but it works for us.

When Jorm goes in rage mode (I forgot if it was 25% or 30%) you should be expecting triple horrid roars.

What we do is have 1 Stunner standby for this. When the first horrid unleashes have him Stun Jorm ASAP. The idea is not to stun Horrid, but to prevent the 2nd one from going off. The stunner will then quickly Elemental Seal > Sleep2 and if it's done correctly Jorm will be asleeped before the 2nd and 3rd comes off. We used a Blm/rdm for this in order to take advantage of fast cast.

Keep in mind if it wakes before flight time it *MIGHT* just roar again so you need to have another Stunner stun him again and sleep it. By then it should take flight after it wakes and you can fight it like normal again.

This method eliminates the need for a 3rd tank. We've killed jorm twice with 20man under an hour using this method, hope it works for you too. Please let me know how your jorm fight goes cause I'd love to hear from you again.

[Kaeko]

Jorm flies and lands like every minute - about 1.5 minutes maximum on the ground if it uses Blood Weapon. Everytime it goes ground again, the TP resets; it has no TP regen - unless you feed it 100TP after touchdown it cannot even have the chance to use Roar.

If you're really worried, use damage only in the air like BLMs and SMNs. It's not the fastest way but it's the safest way if you're running into issues on this.

[Grey Jorildyn]

At that stage of Jorm's HP, tanks should be saving Sentinel for emergencies. Open with a Banish to get on hate list if Flash isn't up, then Sentinel > Flash asap. Work your hate up with cure cheating until flash is up and you should have hate re-established in under two flashes, even in a heavy SA scenario.

At least that's how I always recover from it and it works fast. For fail tanks, use Invincible or whatever.

[Naramaska]

If you're really worried, use damage only in the air like BLMs and SMNs. It's not the fastest way but it's the safest way if you're running into issues on this.

BLM nuke-spam in the air is kind of dangerous on Jorm i've found. Stupid dragon has a nasty tendancy to do Gregale Wing -> Blizzaga3 (either lagged or para'd from wing = no stun) -> touchdown and kill off some squishy mages. Even if that doesn't kill them off, the TP spam (At least 2 AoE's most likely) is usually a problem, especially if you have adds to deal with, making deaths common.


Ironically, low-manning Jorm makes this stuff easy to deal with, as coordination with 6-12 people is way easier.

[Delekii]

Why would there ever be squishy mages in range of blizzaga3 on jorm?

[Kaeko]

Why would there ever be squishy mages in range of blizzaga3 on jorm?

I think low man or 6 man jorm attempts have the BLMs stand at the feet Fafnir style. Controls adds better using AoEs and prevents the BRD from ahving to move?

[Naramaska]

Why would there ever be squishy mages in range of blizzaga3 on jorm?

I think low man or 6 man jorm attempts have the BLMs stand at the feet Fafnir style. Controls adds better using AoEs and prevents the BRD from ahving to move?

Was thinking more BRD's, WHM, etc., but the main concern for us when we 12-manned it was the aerial TP spam from Jorm when we had BLM's nuking it. Although having up stoneskin helps, with double weather going on you'll frequently take more damage than just that from an AoE, and a series of Bad Shit(tm) will find most of your alliance in red HP. For us, TP in the air wasn't a problem from 100-25%, but below that we had to do extremely controlled nukes to make sure we didn't wind up MPK'ing ourselves.

[Seditedi]

Yeah, the 6 man attempts are all Fafnir style, but yeah that blizzaga III/wing combo could be pretty lethal on a BRD.