Recent Hackings and Steps to Ensure Account Safety.

[Khamsin]

IE 7
windows xp serv. pack 2
AVG anti-virus
Search & Destroy
Zone Alarm

rsbo.exe: O

IE 7
windows xp serv. pack 2
Norton anti-virus
Norton and router default firewall

rsbo.exe: X

Then again, I don't have realplayer installed... I don't like it or quicktime, so I keep both off my computer.

[Yutuyu]

It's easy to detect that someone is logging on from a different ISP than usual, by looking at the IP address and resolving the overall host. So I don't see why they couldn't just implement an extra level of security for that instance and not for all.

The questions don't even have to be that hard, could be as simple as asking you some mundane things about your character only you would know. Where you're HP'd, what level your brd is, etc. etc.

[MarkM.]

I don't know if anyone has posted a link to this page here, but I am going to because I think it will benefit everyone. A friend of mine that I went to high school with that has a degree in computer science told me that he thinks its better to run more than 1 anti-virus program if you think you are infected. This link, [url] http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ [url] , is a link to a web-based anti-virus program that you can run in addition to any other one you might have on your computer. A lot of computer viruses come out each month, over 200 I believe, and I think there is no harm in running more than I. I don't want anyone else to get hacked I hope this helps.

Edit: some what fixed the link, i'm tired and its working, sorry its not in the best format :z

[rydiu]

OK this has really been bothering me, and I could be setting myself up for some LOLs at me if im wrong but.... in the title of this thread shouldn't it be ENSURE instead of INSURE?

Discuss

The correct word to use in this case is actually "assure" or: make safe; give confidence to.

Both ensure and insure connote that something is being underwritten by an insurance company in order to guarantee protection from loss.

Note: Just because it's a synonym doesn't mean the words are interchangeable...a lot of synonyms are only pointed out by dictionary editors because they are so commonly misused.

[Ryko]

Both ensure and insure connote that something is being underwritten by an insurance company in order to guarantee protection from loss.

That's not what ensure implies or even means in the slightest. Both assure and ensure in this case are correct however "ensure account safety" could be construed as being redundant since ensure could be considered to have the meaning of "to make safe".

[rydiu]

Ryko is wrong again....according to the 2 most respected dictionaries, the word ensure has definite connotations of insurance and guarantee from risk...

He might not have made himself look like a total douche but he said something really stupid...

That's not what ensure implies or even means in the slightest.

OK CHIEF

Merriam-Webster's Unabridged dictionary says about ensure:

Main Entry:en£sure
Pronunciation:*n*sh*(*)r, en-, -**
Function:transitive verb
Inflected Form:-ed/-ing/-s
Etymology:Middle English ensuren, from Anglo-French enseurer, probably alteration of Old French aseurer to assure * more at ASSURE

1 obsolete a : to make (one) sure (as by pledging, guaranteeing, convincing, or declaring) : ASSURE b : AFFIANCE, BETROTH; sometimes : MARRY, ESPOUSE
2 : INSURE 2
3 : to make sure, certain, or safe : GUARANTEE

*2 good farming practices go far to ensure good crops* *provisions to ensure the rank and file a voice in union policies* *his industry and ability will ensure his success in life*




The OED says:

ensure (_________), v. Forms: 5 ensuer, -sewer, 4­ ensure. See also insure.
[ad. AF. enseurer, f. en- (see en-1) + OF. seur (mod.F. sûr) sure: the AF. vb. may be regarded as an alteration of OF. asseurer to assure.
The word freq. occurs in individual MSS. of Chaucer, but the better attested reading in these passages is app. assure. The form insure is properly a mere variant of ensure, and still occasionally appears in all the surviving senses. In general usage, however, it is now limited to the financial sense (with reference to ‘insurance’ of life or property), in which the form ensure is wholly obsolete.]
† 1. trans. To make (a person) mentally sure; to convince, render confident. Followed by subord. clause. Chiefly pass. and refl. Obs.
c1500 Melusine 68 They were ensured that they wold & sought but good.
1568 Grafton Chron. Hen. V, II. 495 The French enemies..ensured themselves to gaine..whatsoever before they had lost.
1674 N. Fairfax Bulk & Selv. 147 That the body do not lock up [souls] there for the sake of its hardfastness or closeness, we are ensured.
† 2. To give security to, pledge one’s faith to (a person) for the execution of a promise. Obs.
1413 Lydg. Pilgr. Sowle iv. xxxviii. (1859) 63, I ensure you feythfully, I shall brynge you to a place where ye shalle sene hym.
1557 K. Arthur (Copland) ii. xiii, Here I ensure you by the faithe of my body neuer to departe.
† 3. To pledge one’s credit to (a person); to tell (a person) confidently that (something is true).
c1385 Chaucer L.G.W. 2115 Ariadne, I swere & yow ensure This sevene yer I have youre servaunt be.
c1450 Why I can’t be a Nun 364 in E.E.P. (1862) 147 So God me spede, I yow ensewer, Ellys yowre habyte ys no trew token.
1483 Caxton Cato C iiij, I ensure you that it is trouthe.
1534 Ld. Berners Gold. Bk. M. Aurel. (1546) Z viij, I ensure the, the worme in the tymbre..doth not so muche domage.
1642 Fuller Holy & Prof. St. iv. xv. 314 She advised him rather to marry, ensuring him that no Lady in the land..would refuse him.
† 4. To guarantee (a thing) to a person; to warrant (a fact). Const. to or dat. Obs.
1460 in Pol. Rel. & L. Poems (1866) 62 Nay, that I you ensure.
1483 Caxton Gold. Leg. 424/1 Testefyeng and ensuryng that the holy man fiacre was ful of wicked & euyl arte.
1528 Roy Sat., I durst ensure the one thynge.
1733 Neal Hist. Purit. II. 574 All which he ensured upon his royal word.
† b. To guarantee (an expense). Obs.
1738 Johnson Let. Cave in Boswell (1887) I. 122 And since the expense will be no more, I shall contentedly insure it.
† 5. To engage (a person) by a pledge or contract.
c1400 Rowland & O. 160 He es ensurede to myn eme & mee.
1440 J. Shirley Dethe K. James (1818) 9 Yn the same wise bene ye sworne and ensurid to kepe youre peple.
† b. esp. To engage by a promise of marriage, or (rarely) by marriage itself; to betroth, espouse. Cf. assure 4. Obs.
c1450 Lonelich Grail lii. 1019 So that ensured thanne bothe they were, And for the Mariages they ordeyned there.
1523 Ld. Berners Froiss. I. cxl. heading, Howe the yonge erle of Flaunders ensured the kynges doughter of Englande.
c1530 — Arth. Lyt. Bryt. (1814) 237 Let vs..sende for the archbysshop, to thentent to ensure you togyther.
c1550 Cheke Matt. i. 18 After his mother Mari was ensured to Joseph.
1558 Bp. Watson Sev. Sacram. xxviii. 177 When the two parties..haue sayde these woordes, then bee they ensured and iustly married together.
1606 G. W[oodcocke] tr. Hist. Ivstine 79 b, No other maide should be contracted and ensured to any husband, etc.
6. To secure, make safe (against, from risks).
a1704 L’Estrange (J.), A mendicant contracted with a country fellow..to ensure his sheep for that year.
1776 Sir J. Reynolds Disc. vii. (1876) 424 Sufficient to ensure us from all error and mistake.
1847 Mrs. A. Kerr Hist. Servia 426 To ensure her friends against any sort of reaction.
1883 Manch. Exam. 26 Nov. 5/3 The Swiss lake steamers are..too toylike to ensure their passengers against reasonably probable risks.
† 7. Comm. To insure (a person’s life, property, etc.). Obs.
1693 E. Halley in Phil. Trans. XVII. 602 The price of ensuring the Life of a Man of 20.
1747 Scheme Equip. Men of War 40 ’Tis natural for us to ensure our Effects.
8. To make certain the occurrence or arrival of (an event), or the attainment of (a result); = assure 5.
1742 Young Nt. Th. vii. 633 All promise, some ensure, a second scene.
1796 Burke Regic. Peace Wks. 1842 II. 380 Whether the authority..can ensure their execution.
1839 Thirlwall Greece II. 339 Having taken no precautions to ensure regular supplies.
1879 W. H. White in Cassell’s Techn. Educ. IV. 80/1 By this arrangement it is ensured that there shall be no leak.
9. To make (a thing) sure to or for a person; to secure.
1770 Langhorne Plutarch (1879) I. 518/2 Ensuring them the victory.
1799 Wellington in Gurw. Disp. I. 48 The only rule, which..can ensure for the officers..the conveniences which they have a right to expect.
1847 L. Hunt Jar Honey x. (1848) 138 It ensures us an intercourse with a nation we esteem.
1861 May Const. Hist. (1863) I. i. 12 A constitutional government ensures to the King a wide authority.

[Krelian]

I don't see why people say to keep a password in a text file and copy/paste it every time. If you are infect, don't do anything until the infection is gone. Hijack this or command prompt to find the running processes including those nested in svchost and kill them.

[Ryko]

It took you a mile long post to say "It could mean 'to guarantee against loss or harm.'"? No shit.

(This is a joke, if you sit there and cry that something using it as a name doesn't mean they were humping a dictionary then you're a lost cause.)
http://www.rpromise.com/shopping/sit...survanilla.jpg
Try not to swallow the paperclips.

[rydiu]

<Ryko> I AM RIGHT, THE OED AND MW IS WRONG.

Wow..you are really stupid. (that means dull-witted)

Since you apparently don't take the time to look up definitions, here's what insure means:

Main Entry:in£sure
Pronunciation:*n*sh*(*)r, -**
Function:verb
Inflected Form:-ed/-ing/-s
Etymology:Middle English insuren, probably alteration (influenced by in- 2in-) of assuren to assure * more at ASSURE

transitive verb
1 obsolete : to declare to with confidence : ASSURE : promise solemnly
2 : to assure against a loss by a contingent event on certain stipulated conditions or at a given rate or premium : give, take, or procure an insurance on or for : enter into or carry a contract of insurance on — used of either the person who pays the insurance premiums or the society, corporation, or underwriter that undertakes the risk as subject and of the thing to which the risk attaches (as life or property) or the sum secured as object
3 : ENSURE 3
intransitive verb : to contract to give insurance : UNDERWRITE; also : to procure or effect insurance
synonyms see ENSURE

[Tempyst]

<Ryko> I AM RIGHT, THE OED AND MW IS WRONG.

Wow..you are really stupid. (that means dull-witted)

Since you apparently don't take the time to look up definitions, here's what insure means:

Main Entry:in£sure
Pronunciation:*n*sh*(*)r, -**
Function:verb
Inflected Form:-ed/-ing/-s
Etymology:Middle English insuren, probably alteration (influenced by in- 2in-) of assuren to assure * more at ASSURE

transitive verb
1 obsolete : to declare to with confidence : ASSURE : promise solemnly
2 : to assure against a loss by a contingent event on certain stipulated conditions or at a given rate or premium : give, take, or procure an insurance on or for : enter into or carry a contract of insurance on — used of either the person who pays the insurance premiums or the society, corporation, or underwriter that undertakes the risk as subject and of the thing to which the risk attaches (as life or property) or the sum secured as object
3 : ENSURE 3
intransitive verb : to contract to give insurance : UNDERWRITE; also : to procure or effect insurance
synonyms see ENSURE

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[rydiu]

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You like that? :ashira:

[Tempyst]

I think your pseudo-intellectual dictionary quoting shtick is so much funnier when your signatures are so horrifically disturbing

[rydiu]

Well I'm right.....

People were arguing over whether to use insure or ensure and I pointed out the proper word to use and ryko said some really stupid bullshit and I called him on it...

[Seditedi]

lol.............

[Ryko]

The only thing I was forceful on was to say that ensure didn't share a meaning with it in the slightest. The rest of it was dead on, and I didn't say the dictionary was wrong. What I was saying is that when you are using the term ensure (unless you have a hardon for being contradictory) you don't mean to tell someone that there's an underwriting process. To take it to an extreme, when you say assure could you mean the same thing as the other 2 words? Yes, but that's not what you're using the word for. Furthermore do you just get a hardon thinking the other guy is typing in caps?

[rydiu]

If precision is your aim, there is often only 1 or 2 words that you can use...if you just want to get the point across and don't care much for precision, then there are dozens of words you can use that the average English reader will be able to read and have a decent understanding of what you mean. No need to get all anal and throw around outlandish statements...

[Seditedi]

The only thing that Ryd's dictionary quote has proven was that assure and ensure are synonyms and ensure can also relate to an underwriting as in an insurance policy.

[Tempyst]

The only thing I was forceful on was to say that ensure didn't share a meaning with it in the slightest. The rest of it was dead on, and I didn't say the dictionary was wrong. What I was saying is that when you are using the term ensure (unless you have a hardon for being contradictory) you don't mean to tell someone that there's an underwriting process. To take it to an extreme, when you say assure could you mean the same thing as the other 2 words? Yes, but that's not what you're using the word for. Furthermore do you just get a hardon thinking the other guy is typing in caps?

You better watch out, he might quote his IQ at you. That's when the gloves come off.

[rydiu]

The only thing that Ryd's dictionary quote has proven was that assure and ensure are synonyms and ensure can also relate to an underwriting as in an insurance policy.

Which was the point.....what did Ryko say again?

[Ryko]

If precision is your aim, there is often only 1 or 2 words that you can use...if you just want to get the point across and don't care much for precision, then there are dozens of words you can use that the average English reader will be able to read and have a decent understanding of what you mean. No need to get all anal and throw around outlandish statements...

You made a 4 mile long post including the etymology of 2 (of three) words that can be considered synonyms in common speech maybe once in a million times, and I'm being anal? This is where I continue to point out that "assure" could mean the exact same thing and would also "mean that it has an underwriting process", right?