Do you let her show off her body?

[Plow]

So what exactly is a girl expressing by going out with her tits hanging out?




Cuz I dunno exactly what I think she's saying when I see it, but it sure ain't "I have a boyfriend."

Tits hanging out or dressing nice? LOL @ everyone with insecurities in this thread. I can understand Firas' point for initially asking in the first place, seeing as how he is in the Middle east and being immersed in a different culture, but as far as the losers who are half-heartedly insinuating about how if she is wearing a dress or dressing nice she is cheating or trying to attract another male.

Absolutely preposterous. Like Weltall just said, if she has it, why not flaunt it? It's better than coming home to some butch, morbidly obese, half wolf hybrid with halitosis you call your wife. Because it can always be "worse"; not to mention that you would still get looks but for all the wrong reasons. lol

Half of the people posting in this thread will never know what it is like to have a wife/gf/mistress that can get away with dressing pretty. Half of you will end up either beating off every night to pictures of the cast from Nightcourt or marrying some ass ugly, trailer queen cunt named Debbie with 4 kids.

Pfft, some of you people and your silly insecurities. At the end of the day if you don't have the confidence to date a beautiful woman, then you keep your angst to yourself and stop dragging her down to your level.

In other words, you know that "expressing yourself" is the absolute biggest crock of shit excuse for dressing like a slut possible, and have no answer whatsoever for what she might be "expressing."


You don't have to have your tits hanging out the top or your ass hanging out the bottom to "dress pretty."


/waits for insults since you have no actual argument here and just want to be "right"

[Tyche]

Just because your tits are hanging out does not mean you are dressing slutty. Take for instance the girl in the red dress he posted earlier in the thread. That's not slutty. Also, you can dress completely slutty and have your tits and ass fully covered. Example, the girl in the purple slightly below the girl in the red dress. There's also a time and a place to dress slutty. Like I said, you don't go to the club in slacks and a turtleneck.

[*Shinzon*]

This thread reminds me of why so many relationships/marriages don't last. No one ever wants to hear no, or its not for you. Enough, deal with it, change is often good for most people. Dress is a form of expression, if a person wants attention via the way they dress then they're going to do it. If you can't deal with your spouse/girlfriend doing what she wants then yeah you got problems.

No one individual owns another, men, especially in the United States have that ABSOLUTELY ridiculous mentality that when they're with a woman shes his and she has to be understanding to what he wants and nothing else. Guess what pals, she can do whatever she wants, what're you going to do, hit her? I may not be an expert on relationships, but its pretty pathetic to lose faith in an individual over the way they dress.

[Plow]

Just because your tits are hanging out does not mean you are dressing slutty. Take for instance the girl in the red dress he posted earlier in the thread. That's not slutty. Also, you can dress completely slutty and have your tits and ass fully covered. Example, the girl in the purple slightly below the girl in the red dress. There's also a time and a place to dress slutty. Like I said, you don't go to the club in slacks and a turtleneck.

really depends which red dress you're talking about cuz there were 2... and one of em was as close to showing nips as it could possibly get without doing it and a skirt that was like 3 inches past her crotch...


hate to break it to you but when you see underboob from the *top* of the dress, that's pretty slutty...


I dunno I mean a relationship isn't going to work if people can't do what they want, but if what they want is to show off their body to other guys, relationship probably isn't going to work that way either. It really depends, I mean there's gotta be a line and it's not all that clear...

[Tyche]

Just because your tits are hanging out does not mean you are dressing slutty. Take for instance the girl in the red dress he posted earlier in the thread. That's not slutty. Also, you can dress completely slutty and have your tits and ass fully covered. Example, the girl in the purple slightly below the girl in the red dress. There's also a time and a place to dress slutty. Like I said, you don't go to the club in slacks and a turtleneck.

really depends which red dress you're talking about cuz there were 2... and one of em was as close to showing nips as it could possibly get without doing it and a skirt that was like 3 inches past her crotch...


hate to break it to you but when you see underboob from the *top* of the dress, that's pretty slutty...


I dunno I mean a relationship isn't going to work if people can't do what they want, but if what they want is to show off their body to other guys, relationship probably isn't going to work that way either. It really depends, I mean there's gotta be a line and it's not all that clear...

I think your generalization of sexy and slutty is completely gray.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4...ayDresses2.jpg

The dress on the left, down to her knees (her knees are 3 inches past her crotch!), that's a sexy dress.

Not talking about the girls pictured, but the clothes worn...

Slutty:

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.co...OutHotties.jpg
http://216.97.125.126/catalog/images/Short%20Skirt.jpg
http://newton-i.usefilm.com/images/4...954-medium.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/cy8551-1.jpg

Sexy:

http://www.chicbynature.com/wp-conte.../80s-dress.jpg
http://www.tikimama.com/images/dress.jpg
http://images.chicalert.com/SaveUpto...dwareDress.jpg

It's really a judgment call. Just because your boobs are half out doesn't automatically stick it in the slut category. If that's slutty, you'll see a ton of sluts prancing around many fine dining (im not talking olive garden variety) establishments.

I stumbled across the picture, and I had to post it. This dress, sexy. But GOMMOMG LOOK HOW FUCKING UGLY THAT MODEL IS. Jesus christ, where can I hire her agent?

http://cms.images.morris.com/savanna.../117049410.jpg

[archibaldcrane]

Just remember men, if you don't have the self-confidence of Bruce Willis and security of Fort Knox, you should never date a woman ever. If you have issues, you should pretty much just shoot yourself, because she will never be open to talking to you about things that bother you - she just expects you to be superman 24/7. Why is this so hard? Compromise isn't an aspect of relationships, neither is communication or honesty. You'd better keep everything super bottled up because if you let any insecurities show, she's on the next train to double-penetration-at-the-dockyardsville.

[layoneil]

Just remember men, if you don't have the self-confidence of Bruce Willis and security of Fort Knox, you should never date a woman ever. If you have issues, you should pretty much just shoot yourself, because she will never be open to talking to you about things that bother you - she just expects you to be superman 24/7. Why is this so hard? Compromise isn't an aspect of relationships, neither is communication or honesty. You'd better keep everything super bottled up because if you let any insecurities show, she's on the next train to double-penetration-at-the-dockyardsville.

that's such a load of BS, no one here is saying that. you're supposed to talk about it but you're not supposed to get drunk and belligerent before you attempt to do so.

and you're supposed to talk about it so that she can reassure you that regardless of how she dresses, she's still with you and not someone else. you're not supposed to talk about it to the point where you have to control how she can or can not dress.

and if no amount of communication on her part can give you the trust and confidence you need in the relationship than more likely than not it's going to end.

and in that case, you don't have to have the security of Fort Knox. just find a really ugly girl, who won't dream of wearing anything in the pics Tyche posted without being laughed at. homeless people don't lock up their cardboard boxes.

[kuronosan]

Just remember men, if you don't have the self-confidence of Bruce Willis and security of Fort Knox, you should never date a woman ever. If you have issues, you should pretty much just shoot yourself, because she will never be open to talking to you about things that bother you - she just expects you to be superman 24/7. Why is this so hard? Compromise isn't an aspect of relationships, neither is communication or honesty. You'd better keep everything super bottled up because if you let any insecurities show, she's on the next train to double-penetration-at-the-dockyardsville.

I've seen a lot of stupid statements from time to time, but this is by far the the dumbest and most thoughtless thing I've read this entire month - as much as you were trying to be helpful.

[archibaldcrane]

Sorry, I can only handle people saying "LOL @ da peoplez wit' da insecuritiez in dis thread" so many times before I take it to the opposite extreme. I clearly already chastised Firas for getting drunk and getting into an argument about the issue. There's just a little too much "but you don't own her and you can't control her!" BS thrown about for my tastes. People influence the actions/behavior of their partners in relationships in small ways all the time. This is just another example of where that's applicable.

It's humorous to me that my response was mainly to ridiculous statements like this:

LOL @ everyone with insecurities in this thread. ... Half of the people posting in this thread will never know what it is like to have a wife/gf/mistress that can get away with dressing pretty. Half of you will end up either beating off every night to pictures of the cast from Nightcourt or marrying some ass ugly, trailer queen cunt named Debbie with 4 kids.

Pfft, some of you people and your silly insecurities. At the end of the day if you don't have the confidence to date a beautiful woman, then you keep your angst to yourself and stop dragging her down to your level.

But I'm the one getting dogpiled on for sarcastically taking this just a -tiny- bit further.

[kuronosan]

It's not so much that your sarcasm wasn't detected or funny, because it was - it was that it wasn't at all helpful or productive. Firas is extremely insecure - and that's that. There isn't anything wrong with people pointing that out. My point (and the point of several others) is that it's not really that you're insecure or immature, it's how you act on those emotions and he acted totally inappropriately given the situation.

[Mizango]

In other words, you know that "expressing yourself" is the absolute biggest crock of shit excuse for dressing like a slut possible, and have no answer whatsoever for what she might be "expressing."


You don't have to have your tits hanging out the top or your ass hanging out the bottom to "dress pretty."


/waits for insults since you have no actual argument here and just want to be "right"

That post was directed towards people like you. Insecure? Turn your petty angst towards yourself. Your post validated every point I was attempting to make. There is no "right" about it, I am married, and confident enough to not notice, whine or go all emo if someone looks at my wife, so again, there has absolutely nothing to do with me wishing to be "right", this is all about you being a fucking whiny snatch when it comes to your dealings with the opposite sex.

I like how you equate a dress or some sort of a sun dress to being a slut. Tyche just gave you an excellent example of the distinct difference between the two. My personal experience trumps your fucking petty assumptions tenfold. You're a retard, plain and simple. I would ask a female to post here so you could hear it from the proverbial "Horse's mouth" but it would be pointless, your glaring insecurities and reluctance to think beyond yourself is absolutely blinding and speaks volumes of your inept character enough as is.

[archibaldcrane]

I would ask a female to post here so you could hear it from the proverbial "Horse's mouth" but it would be pointless, your glaring insecurities and reluctance to think beyond yourself is absolutely blinding and speaks volumes of your inept character enough as is.

Eh, girls have posted here, giving the same mixed replies as the guys, for example:

Firas - Bottom line is you need to tell your girl it bugs you. But do it in a nice way so she doesn't get all offended.

I used to dress to impress, and I thought my boyfriend liked it. He never told me until months later that it bothered him. I had no idea. I felt kinda bad at first, and I got a little defensive (was he calling me a slut?!) But he described it as that he found subltey(sp) more sexy. And that aside from the jealousy factor, he didn't understand why I needed to feel acceptance from strangers, as if I wasn't getting enough from him. But that wasn't the case. So now I dress a bit more classy, but we have found many ways to feel sexy out in public together, without it being a big show.

Every relationship is different, and through open and honest communication (including exhibiting insecurites as appropriate) each couple can determine their own level of ..."exhibitionism" for lack of a better word, together. If one guy doesn't care what his wife wears, and another does, that doesn't make one point of view more or less legitimate - it just exemplifies the specificity of individual relationships. There is no "one size fits all" rule here.

[Day]

Yeah dude, you're not a man unless you can let other dudes stare at your girl's shit, I mean damn you know she's just expressing herself.


I have to wonder how many of you take the same stance when your girlfriend/wife asks that you not do something out of respect for her feelings? Is she a crazy insecure bitch then?

[Cautery]

That's my gf at the disco: I love when she dress like that! And the less she dress, the more I am happy! Most of the time, its me that ask her to dress like that cause she doesn't like have all the attention.

http://www.psie-online.net/Imm/Varie/disco01.jpg

http://www.psie-online.net/Imm/Varie/disco02.jpg

http://www.psie-online.net/Imm/Varie/disco03.jpg

[Neosutra]

Yeah dude, you're not a man unless you can let other dudes stare at your girl's shit, I mean damn you know she's just expressing herself.


I have to wonder how many of you take the same stance when your girlfriend/wife asks that you not do something out of respect for her feelings? Is she a crazy insecure bitch then?

Its not always about what you want, get over yourself. The relationship is 2 ways. Dont just blow off everything people have said here because you have tiny dick syndrom (8th grade insult referring to a lack of lolsecurity an inability to accept your mates independence).

And I would hope that they would take the same stance if it was reversed, as relationships are about compremise and growth, not about "I da man, I in charge". If you would have even read anyone's post in this thread, we are not talking about the woman lathering herself in baby oil and stripping for 30 guys, we are talking about women expressing themselves physically to boost their confindence, impress their mate, and help the sex life in that relationship.

Our advice was for the man (firas) to look at it from a different perspective and grow a bit from the ordeal, where-as he chose to get drunk and ignore everyone, resulting in obviously crappy results.

But do what you like, have your wife leave the house every day in a sweater and veil, it still wont stop her from fucking the gardener when you leave from work because your too insecure to satisfy her needs. By the way, you havent paid me this months gardening fees.

[Day]

Rofl nice one.

And if you have read anything I've said, I've been stating that relationships are about comprimise and picking your battles. Relationships are 2 ways, that's what I'm saying. A lot of people in this thread seem to think that both people can just do whatever the hell they want in a relationship regardless of the others feelings, and have everything be hunky dorey.

I don't think anyone in this thread think that how Firas handled the situation was the best way to go.

[archibaldcrane]

"You keep runnin' that mouth I'm gonna' take you in the back and screw ya'"
http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/200...reviews3-1.jpg

Josh Brolin has relationships down.

[Neosutra]

Rofl nice one.

And if you have read anything I've said, I've been stating that relationships are about comprimise and picking your battles. Relationships are 2 ways, that's what I'm saying. A lot of people in this thread seem to think that both people can just do whatever the hell they want in a relationship regardless of the others feelings, and have everything be hunky dorey.

I don't think anyone in this thread think that how Firas handled the situation was the best way to go.

No we are not saying "do whatever you want, regardless of feelings", we are saying that in this specific case, Firas was wrong and needs to grow a bit from this. To an extent, it is healthy, builds a firmer relationship, and will buff your sex life. If you want to take it to the extent of either mate telling the other to fuck off and then going out in a G-string, then yes, that would be wrong.

The convo at hand however is far from the above extreme.

[Mizango]

Yeah dude, you're not a man unless you can let other dudes stare at your girl's shit, I mean damn you know she's just expressing herself.


I have to wonder how many of you take the same stance when your girlfriend/wife asks that you not do something out of respect for her feelings? Is she a crazy insecure bitch then?

Its not always about what you want, get over yourself. The relationship is 2 ways. Dont just blow off everything people have said here because you have tiny dick syndrom (8th grade insult referring to a lack of lolsecurity an inability to accept your mates independence).

And I would hope that they would take the same stance if it was reversed, as relationships are about compremise and growth, not about "I da man, I in charge". If you would have even read anyone's post in this thread, we are not talking about the woman lathering herself in baby oil and stripping for 30 guys, we are talking about women expressing themselves physically to boost their confindence, impress their mate, and help the sex life in that relationship.

Our advice was for the man (firas) to look at it from a different perspective and grow a bit from the ordeal, where-as he chose to get drunk and ignore everyone, resulting in obviously crappy results.

But do what you like, have your wife leave the house every day in a sweater and veil, it still wont stop her from fucking the gardener when you leave from work because your too insecure to satisfy her needs. By the way, you havent paid me this months gardening fees.

Yet another home run by Neo. I mean just like he said above; it really is THAT simple. I like how everyone seems to over complicate this issue. I find it funny seeing the few people trying to justify their own lolinsecurities by having a woman leave the house in a turtle neck, stockings, a hair net and a fucking Coogi sweater in the summer so other guys wont "look" at your significant other is retarded.

It is just fucking mind boggling. Women + = No thanks, If you do they will find someone who wont.

Insecurities= 30. You= 0

[archibaldcrane]

lolinsecurities

You should get a trademark on that.

Just because your line is drawn at your girl going out in a g-string (would that make you feel insecure?) doesn't mean that other people draw lines in different places (yes, I'm doing the lolmiddleeast thing). What works for you doesn't work for everyone, and continuously downplaying "insecurity" as insignificant in a relationship doesn't strengthen your argument. Ignoring half of the issue doesn't, a good argument, make.