WTF is going on? (Problem with game mechanics)

[cdgreg]

I think despot took a page or 2 out of faust's book. This was last night, now mind you I havent killed despot since the "fix" where he is now a lottery or whatever, but I dont remember him doing panzerfaust 4x in a row. It seemed like WS = 4 straight panzerfaust which was pretty bad news for the WS'er If this is normal my bad!

[Seditedi]

Despot was always pretty spammy with TP, I don't understand why people are saying they changed him.
Wasn't uncommon for 3 Panzerfausts in a row back like 2 years ago.

[Max™]

3 in a Row is one thing.

3 Simultaneously is different.

He's stacking them, not doing like Faust does where he spams Typhoon, it's like a shotgun goes off and then

Panzerfaust
Panzerfaust
Panzerfaust
Panzerfaust
Nukehappyblm was defeated by Faust
Nukehappyblm takes 357 Points of Damage.
Nukehappyblm takes 396 Points of Damage.
Nukehappyblm takes 407 Points of Damage.
Nukehappyblm takes 345 Points of Damage.

[TacoTaru]

Farming for Slyvan stones and we just saw this happen. I'm hoping this will start happening to Dynamis goblins lol.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...ons/wtfgob.png

[Jedimasta]

iirc gobs have a chance at backfiring some TP moves
i always remembered the funny animation where they hold out their canister, nothing comes out, and they check inside and it blows up in there face lol

[TacoTaru]

I knew this was possible with Bomb Toss, but I have never seen it happen with Paralysis Shower, and I've spent a while farming for these stones over the past six months. I guess it's possible that it's never happened before, but seeing as I've killed hundreds of these things and never seen it backfire, I thought it was goofed up

[Kiarax]

Smokebomb, Crispy Candle and Paralysis Shower can all backfire outside of Dynamis, it's common so I find it hard to believe you've never seen this in 6 months of Sylvan Stone farming.

[TacoTaru]

I have never seen any of those backfire actually >_>. And if it is that common it makes it even odder because we've only missed Mine Shaft a few times in those six months.

I farmed Strongman back in the day when the pants were worth it and even in all that time then I never saw any of these moves backfire when I'd sneak into newton to play between windows either.

[Kiarax]

Strange, I tend to see it multiple times on the rare occasion I'm in Movalpolis. Either way it's definately not a bug. If you watch the animation you'll see it exploding in the moblins face like Jedimasta said.

[TacoTaru]

Now I wanna see this backfired Candle

[Lordwafik]

it can backfire often, and it's funny, they shake their candle, wondering why it didn't go off, then they look into it to see what's wrong and then it goes off comically into their face.

[ringthree]

Despot was always pretty spammy with TP, I don't understand why people are saying they changed him.
Wasn't uncommon for 3 Panzerfausts in a row back like 2 years ago.

No, this is something different and obviously broken if you witness it. If you look at the screen shot, it does "Despot readies Panzerfaust" three times uninterrupted in a row. And all three go off. I have seen it do it up to 5 times in a row like that. The animation breaks when it does this. And this is relatively recent, I believe since the expansion update, but maybe slightly before it.

This is NOT like Faust. With Faust, when its at low HP it will complete one Typhoon then do another, just like Despot used to complete one Panzerfaust the do another. With Despot now though, it is doing them on top of each other, literally. 3-5 on top of each other. They are not even back to back. If you witness it you can tell its obviously broken because the animation completely breaks. This is kind of like the issue that many other Impossible to Gauge mobs are having (the reported back to back TP moves) except it's much worse.

[Seditedi]

O wow, taking a second look at the screenshot, yes thats very broken lol.

[Kayos]

We just got 2 Hauteclaire drops in a row. (They must have increased the droprate!!!)

On a sad note however, they have yet to fix the ps2 freeze glitch when talking to NPC in Whitegate... I froze 4 straight times at the warp taru yesterday.

[Dioma]

Sorry for the necro bump but tonight I tanked Proto-Ultima for the first time and noticed it hit me for some retarded numbers. I was on PLD/NIN and took high 400s to low 500s from normal hits. Believe the average was around 481-491 and it critical'd me for 700. Maybe it's normal but I've never been hit that hard by anything in game. Any input would be nice.

[Rehn]

He hits me for pretty much slightly under that range, high 300 to low 400, so I don't think that's any glitch.

[Sparkz]

Otherwise there's the usual ps2 issue with whitegate npcs...

One biggest problem I have on PS2

[Zarath]

Despot was always pretty spammy with TP, I don't understand why people are saying they changed him.
Wasn't uncommon for 3 Panzerfausts in a row back like 2 years ago.

No, this is something different and obviously broken if you witness it. If you look at the screen shot, it does "Despot readies Panzerfaust" three times uninterrupted in a row. And all three go off. I have seen it do it up to 5 times in a row like that. The animation breaks when it does this. And this is relatively recent, I believe since the expansion update, but maybe slightly before it.

This is NOT like Faust. With Faust, when its at low HP it will complete one Typhoon then do another, just like Despot used to complete one Panzerfaust the do another. With Despot now though, it is doing them on top of each other, literally. 3-5 on top of each other. They are not even back to back. If you witness it you can tell its obviously broken because the animation completely breaks. This is kind of like the issue that many other Impossible to Gauge mobs are having (the reported back to back TP moves) except it's much worse.

It's been like this ever since they changed the Despot to the whole lottery claimed thing. I've seen our PLDs and NINs go down to red instantly due to 6-7 panzers going off at the same time.

[Meloria]

I haven't noticed a difference in Ultima. We killed him twice a couple weeks ago. Tanks didn't say he was hitting any harder than normal.

4 man despot last night and he simultaneously killed the blm and thf with his 4 panzers.

[Zekyr]

As long as this got necroed I'll post one of the shots I have of despot hyperpanzer going off, found it from a few months back when he first started doing it and we had never seen it

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4...nzersn7.th.png

He oneshotted our first tank because we didn't know wtf, then started nearly oneshotting all the mages and DD. This entire log screen is about the span of 10 seconds at the max, and there are 8 instances in groups of 3+, which would then all go off and do 1000+ damage at times.

We're used to it now, and just zerg him down in like 40 seconds, but we had no idea what was going on back then, and still think it's fairly broken.