Old RPG Pickup

[Vinen]

I disagree, I think the story and gameplay in Xenogears was easily better than Xenosaga, and it would've held up better in comparison if the second disc had played out anything like the first.

That isn't to dismiss Xenosaga at all, the series is by far one of my favorite.

I don't know why. But the level of awesome that is the final dungeon of Xenosaga III is what won me over.

[Exoduso]

I disagree, I think the story and gameplay in Xenogears was easily better than Xenosaga, and it would've held up better in comparison if the second disc had played out anything like the first.

That isn't to dismiss Xenosaga at all, the series is by far one of my favorite.

I don't know why. But the level of awesome that is the final dungeon of Xenosaga III is what won me over.

XS3 in general is very very epic.

[Kazen]

I disagree, I think the story and gameplay in Xenogears was easily better than Xenosaga, and it would've held up better in comparison if the second disc had played out anything like the first.

That isn't to dismiss Xenosaga at all, the series is by far one of my favorite.

I don't know why. But the level of awesome that is the final dungeon of Xenosaga III is what won me over.

XS3 in general is very very epic.

go beat Xenogears :/

[Kaylia]

I disagree, I think the story and gameplay in Xenogears was easily better than Xenosaga, and it would've held up better in comparison if the second disc had played out anything like the first.

That isn't to dismiss Xenosaga at all, the series is by far one of my favorite.

Xenogears' plot is awesome, and the game is massive in term of content, but I still think the story telling was presented a lot better in Xenosaga. I'm not sure if you played the game recently, but last time I did (after playing completing ep 3) it felt a lot more awkward than I remembered. Emotion arent always well portrayed, and they drag conversion a lot more than they need to. Of course, Xenosaga get an advantage with 3d cutscenes and everything, but even then, Xenogears still felt "old".

I'm not trying to dismiss Xenogears either. Both Saga and Gears will rank at the top of my favorite game list forever

XS3 in general is very very epic.

go beat Xenogears :/

Arguing about what is the most epic between Xenosaga and Xenogears is kinda pointless >_>. Both plot as went far as they could on the religious/philosophical level, and both climax ended with something bigger than the universe itself.

[Exoduso]

I just know that the music in Xenosaga 3 owns lol.

[Kaelan]

I disagree, I think the story and gameplay in Xenogears was easily better than Xenosaga, and it would've held up better in comparison if the second disc had played out anything like the first.

That isn't to dismiss Xenosaga at all, the series is by far one of my favorite.

Xenogears' plot is awesome, and the game is massive in term of content, but I still think the story telling was presented a lot better in Xenosaga. I'm not sure if you played the game recently, but last time I did (after playing completing ep 3) it felt a lot more awkward than I remembered. Emotion arent always well portrayed, and they drag conversion a lot more than they need to. Of course, Xenosaga get an advantage with 3d cutscenes and everything, but even then, Xenogears still felt "old".

It's probably just because of how long ago it was realeased. The quality of the writing and the translations are just way better now in general than they were then. If they ever redid it like SE remade FFT, polishing up all the old dusty parts, it would blow most of the RPGs around now out of the water (although it's unlikely that's ever gonna happen).

actually, just found a video of what i was mentioning: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5rkfEXIDUtQ
edit: possible spoilers as to a fight that you'll eventually have in sphere (locked levels)

star ocean has to be my favorite RPG in a long time :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NObPWKv ... re=related

[tyraravenlocke]

Xenogears before the second disc was a truly epic game.

And then it just failed.

Xenosaga III doesn't have that problem.

No.. the failed in an entire game instead. (hi2u episode II)

So.. I say its a wash.

[Kaylia]

It's probably just because of how long ago it was realeased. The quality of the writing and the translations are just way better now in general than they were then. If they ever redid it like SE remade FFT, polishing up all the old dusty parts, it would blow most of the RPGs around now out of the water (although it's unlikely that's ever gonna happen).

Yeah, I usually say the same about older game. For most us who played it years ago with lower standard, it's perfect. My point was that gamers who missed it are going to judge it with today standard, and it can be a big turn off for some of them. Out of the 6 people I recommanded Xenogears (and tried it) in the last 2 years, none of them finished it.

Maybe I just got unlucky and this situation isnt accurate, but there is probably some truth behind it. Xenosaga is also a hit or miss for many people, but I got a more positive response from rpg fan who likes story

[ronin sparthos]

Picking up Legend of Dragoon reminds me of how RPGs used to be made, even if LoD had one of the harder chain sequences during regular battles. The spinning circle in dragoon mode was pretty fun too... if you like timing.

I always liked Star Ocean 2 over 3, i think that they should remake it with superior graphics x.x

[Kriz]

I recently downloaded an Undub of Xenogears- I have never played the original but loved Xenosaga I and III.

I hate with a passion bad dubs- should I rock the original JP with subtitles or try the english version?

[Kaylia]

I recently downloaded an Undub of Xenogears- I have never played the original but loved Xenosaga I and III.

I hate with a passion bad dubs- should I rock the original JP with subtitles or try the english version?

There is like... 5min worth of anime sequence with talking? >_>

[Kriz]

Oh, well then I guess it doesn't much matter

[Kaylia]

Oh, well then I guess it doesn't much matter

Yeah, dont worry too much about voice. They are pretty bad, but its not something you have to endure. Not even sure JP version had good voice acting either.

[Kaelan]

I rmemebert Elly's voice when you first meet her in the forest being pretty good. Can't even remember anything else past that <_<;

[Kabbalah]

Man, and here I thought we were gonna go old-school, like...Baldur's Gate or Fallout.

[Charismatic]

Man, and here I thought we were gonna go old-school, like...Baldur's Gate or Fallout.

lolwrpg
(Although I did like Fallout, and I didn't play enough of either Baldur's Gate game to have a real opinion on them though I did play them.)

[Edgie]

Ive had a huge itch to play secret of evermore... but dont have a working snes >.>

[Charla]

Emulation is your friend. And if you still have the broken SNES, it's actually legal too!

I tried to play Fallout like a year ago and it wouldn't run.

[Ramor]

Emulation is your friend. And if you still have the broken SNES, it's actually legal too!

I tried to play Fallout like a year ago and it wouldn't run.

How I love thee emulator

But you also need a legal copy of the actual game for having the rom to be legal too, not just having the SNES.

Also, has anyone ever found a working Legend of Dragoon ROM by chance? I can't seem to stumble across one that will download properly and then work, and my playstation is about a thousand miles away.

[Charla]

I saw one yesterday while I was checking for those MegaTen ISOs. Same place I got VP1, but no idea if it'll work for you. Is posting links to emulation sites still against the rules?