What do you wear on neck for Jin?

[Amastacia]

lol @ calling amas a gilbuyer , just check him! :D

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I call BS on a 30k/hr party :
1st) With a ninja in it
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Hey! That's not funny

It's not my gear that's gimp, just my common sense.

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I've been in a couple 30k/hr parties on my NIN, but it was always with 2 BRDs and 2 blinged-to-the-hilt Ridill WARs or BB MNKs who wanted someone else to first voke so they could DD harder and cast fewer shadows.

Leech? You know it. At least I put in as good of a showing as a lolNIN is ever going to.

Edit: Just as a note, all my best parties have been at Jade Sepulcher or back in the day in Uleguerand Range (still some of the best XP evar, definitely no competition).

[Seditedi]

Notice how he stopped posting after he was called out for obvious bullshitting.

[Kylex]

Notice how he stopped posting after he was called out for obvious bullshitting.

:D No doubt

[Weeks]

Honestly, I think I do better damage on NIN than on my WAR. Still need a N. Head and E. Body for WAR, but NIN is a much better job for merit situations than is being acknowledged in this thread.

[Seditedi]

NIN in a pt isn't bad at all, its just his claims over holding hate against other high dmg/dot melee in a 30k/hr pt are ridiculous. A Pimp DD NIN is a very good DD for merit party, just BB MNK/Ridill WAR will generate alot more hate than it in exp.

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

96% acc

Oh shit, you broke the game.

[Okuza]

Notice how he stopped posting after he was called out for obvious bullshitting.

It's a case of pearls before swine and not staying glued to the forums. Tank until they WS or Barrage, then of course it bounces. It dies so shortly after that it doesn't matter. No, I don't spend 20k-40k on 'bobs nor have I even tried to use 'bobs on Colibri. I extrapolated the expense based on snatching rate I got in the first few bad parties I had when trying birds. Yes, I really have gotten 30k per hour there with a good group. Yes, I'm predominately tanking. I'm SURE y'all could do that, too. I'm also sure you can't do better than that. 30k/h is what you get when you run out of birds. No more birds, no more XP. If there was more XP to get, it would be smart to figure out how to get it -- like by eating food, though blocking off entrance to the zone after you're there would do more (if it was possible).

Eating food there as the tank doesn't turn a bad party into a good one. It just wastes gil to no purpose.

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Here's some simple arithmetic about how it works: let's start with 4 DD and assume they're all perfectly equal. Each does 25% of the total on average. IIRC, the SAM was using sidewinder, so let's say 3 of them get a 25% piercing bonus on birds for 3x 28% and 1x 21%. If all 4 eat food, you can say that the whole party is improved by roughly the same percentage. Let's say that's about 10~15% better than no food on anyone. How much less XP do you get if the tank doesn't eat? 2~3% less XP.

You're not max XP for the area -- there's things up you want to kill but can't. So, you're doing 20k/h eating your food. Stop eating and you do (drumroll) 19.4k/h. OMG, what a tragedy! Is 600 xp per hour really worth 20k gil per hour?

The only reason it makes sense to eat food at all during any XP is because it's cheap. When it's not cheap, it really REALLY makes no sense. For colibri, food price goes WAY up for one person: the tank. So, skip the food and get nearly the same results. If 20k gil an hour for food is utterly inconsequential, go for it. But it's far from reasonable to assume that's true for everyone or even that it should be.

[Weeks]

Tip: Nobody is going to buy your mathematical arguments when you're also insisting that you're in a party capable of sustaining 30k/hour on birds (I'm not even sure that that is theoretically possible, but it would require all 3 camps in the area to be empty if so) and yet DDs are not pulling hate almost immediately off of Provoke.

BTW, it's not even theoretically possible for you to be Provoking every mob and manage 30k/hour.

[Toralin]

Your math is off I'm sorry little buddy. I have had a setup at this camp ALLLL to myself.

4x WAR/NIN all with Ridill/Ebody capped warrior merits etc.
2x BRD/WHM

Outside RDM for healing.(haste on at all times)

We were clearing the entire floor and all but 1-2 of the Wivre's before bird repops and we were sitting at about 26-27k/hr..

You ARE not doing 30k and hour. ESPECIALLY with a NIN even with the MOST decked gear.

On my Warrior I never first voke and that being said I use between 12-20 pieces of food an hour.

I have over 450 merits, and have yet to SUSTAIN 30k/hr in any party. I parse almost all of my parties to make myself more effcient as well. I would say anything over 18-19k/hr is a GOOD party

[mikazuki]

leave neck slot empty, use kabobs.

[Kylex]

Eating food on Colibri as tank is just plain idiocy. Even cheapkabobs cost 20~40k gil per hour with all the snatchings and you don't get any more XP out of it unless you built your party around your own DD -- in which case why are you on Colibri?

This is your first quote.

No, I don't spend 20k-40k on 'bobs nor have I even tried to use 'bobs on Colibri.

This is your second. So if you've never tried to use kabobs on colibri, you must know they cost 20k-40k per hour. Glad you test your information out before you post weak BS.

So, you're doing 20k/h eating your food. Stop eating and you do (drumroll) 19.4k/h. OMG, what a tragedy! Is 600 xp per hour really worth 20k gil per hour?

Are you serious? I dont know about your ninja, since you're so absolutely leet and you get 30k/hr all the time without food, but mine sits at about 385 attack with full haste gear. Mithkabobs grant 5 STR and 60 attack, but I mean thats not a big deal or anything. It's not like its an extra ring slot to put a flame ring on top of your current rings, or about roughly 4.5x the attack difference between TPing in a hauby or a scorpion harness. Naw, you're right... Eating food is completely ludicrous. Oh wait, no.

[Seditedi]

lol, care to show your NIN DD gear? >.>
I'm sorry but you aren't "tanking" in a merit point party on Greater Colibri (unless the rest of the party sucks, which would not grant 30k/hr). If you think voking once is considering tanking then you are mistaken.
A stack of kabobs is 4k, no way you could eat 120 mithkabobs in 1hr lol due to snatch morsels.

[Swampthing]

Eating food is completely ludicrous. Oh wait, no.

Where was your food yesterday afternoon when we were at birds

<3Kylex

[Ely]

Eating food is completely ludicrous. Oh wait, no.

Where was your food yesterday afternoon when we were at birds

<3Kylex

the warrior with the daggers stole it

[Swampthing]

Eating food is completely ludicrous. Oh wait, no.

Where was your food yesterday afternoon when we were at birds

<3Kylex

the warrior with the daggers stole it

me: why the hell are you dual wielding daggers?
war: I'm bored with axes
Kylex: then i'm bored with you...
/kick

lmfao

[BerenTebogo]

I extrapolated the data

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Shit, my extrapolation machine is broken. Can I borrow yours? I'll trade you some stacks of kabobs.

Also I'd love to see your set for NIN, I'm sure it's absolute shit compared to even some people's 7th job NIN on here.

[Kylex]

Eating food is completely ludicrous. Oh wait, no.

Where was your food yesterday afternoon when we were at birds

<3Kylex

the warrior with the daggers stole it

me: why the hell are you dual wielding daggers?
war: I'm bored with axes
Kylex: then i'm bored with you...
/kick

lmfao

<3Samno, that WAR was the biggest joke alive. That was funny as hell :D
PS: I was eating kabobs D: My NIN is just that lawl compared to your SAM

[Swampthing]

PS: I was eating kabobs D:

shit are you serious lol? I guess I wasn't really paying attention then XD Until the war whipped out daggers...

[Kylex]

Yeah XD went through 3 stacks in the 2 hours we were meriting, obviously not 20k-40k worth...

[Seditedi]

PS: I was eating kabobs D:

shit are you serious lol? I guess I wasn't really paying attention then XD Until the war whipped out daggers...

Blau main, Joyeuse off hand baby!