Caimpain exp vs meripo exp

[ryskar]

It's awesome when you have an event (or multiple events) every day, and don't have the 2 hours to contribute to a merit party. With my month off before next semester, I really should be out killing greater colibri on MNK; but I am having too much fun doing Campaign on my DRG. :D

However... even a less-than-mediocre merit party should pull in faster exp.

[ASG]

2k for 20m of work? thatd be 6k a hour. A good merit pt can get 30-35k a hour. my guess would obviously merits get more, but campaign is more fun :D

This is an honest question, no flame. I want to know where the hell you're camping to get 35k/hr. @_@ Super elite party or not, I can't see getting over 28-30k, 30k being iffy. There's only 6 people allowed in a single party - unless you're using an outside healer. I've seen one party doing that, and it was just cheap. PM please.

Also, 2k/20min is 10k/hr if the hour has 100 minutes in it! :D (I got 2k exp earlier today for about ~25 minutes in Campaign including a small 3-5min break and 2 deaths).

Eh its not that hard actually. A empty thickets 3 pimped 3 ridill wars 2 brds and rdm on all point get it done very easily.

[Damane]

sicne campagin I am only meritting on my brd or cor when LS mates want, otherwise I just stick to campaign. no shitty pick up pts, no seeking and alot of fun . bye bye pickup meripo pts^^

[ronin sparthos]

WotG zones are a godsend for EXP overall anyways, they are alot of camps that will spread players out up until the merit situation.

I can't agree that it's a godsend. Sure there's camps everywhere, but any time I have tried making a party, the majority of the party doesn't have the maws to that zone, so unless I spend a good portion of an hour escorting them, we're not going to exp in a new zone. So what ends up happening is we end up going back to the old zones and grinding out in boring areas again because it's very hard to make parties in new zones.

They should have put another anniversary ring type item that is a reward for picking up all the Maws, just so people have incentive to go get them all.



As for the question in the original OP, he asked which is more, not what is important to you most, so the answer is a Merit point party is definitely more exp/hr than campaign could ever be.

I was just noting the fact SE *thought* about exp camps, since AU was centered on midlevel/merit exp and everything else was undesireable mobs like a zone of undead or True Sight/Sound ready to melt your face off.

Given time id like to see the Playerbase migrate away from the shit known as Qufim/Dunes/Nest/Citadel/Jungles The New camps look far superior and sigil rocks.

Take a Break from Merits: GET THE MAWS

Dungeon Campaigns are good exp, they tend to last the longest (at the cost of being harder than outside campaigns.)

[Max™]

I like the easy jump in and go nature, versus, get in, find camp, stay in til you get your merits ground out.

Something comes up in a meripo, you're holding up 5 people, or leaving the party.

Something comes up in a campaign, you afk in a safe spot, and come back whenever you feel like it.

5-6k/hour is about the top end for Campaign due to the randomness and the time involved to get the Exp, much better than Besieged because it's sustainable usually, and always going.

Don't compare Campaign to a meripo, compare it to soloing for merits.

[Damane]

Dungeon Campaigns are good exp, they tend to last the longest (at the cost of being harder than outside campaigns.)

and you end up mostly solo vs 29302392 orcs.... noone bothers for dungeon campaigns (sandi is infact loosing eldieme ...)

[aurik]

2k for 20m of work? thatd be 6k a hour. A good merit pt can get 30-35k a hour. my guess would obviously merits get more, but campaign is more fun :D

This is an honest question, no flame. I want to know where the hell you're camping to get 35k/hr. @_@ Super elite party or not, I can't see getting over 28-30k, 30k being iffy. There's only 6 people allowed in a single party - unless you're using an outside healer. I've seen one party doing that, and it was just cheap. PM please.

Also, 2k/20min is 10k/hr if the hour has 100 minutes in it! :D (I got 2k exp earlier today for about ~25 minutes in Campaign including a small 3-5min break and 2 deaths).

Eh its not that hard actually. A empty thickets 3 pimped 3 ridill wars 2 brds and rdm on all point get it done very easily.

Is more like 25-30k than 30-35k, especially without a corsair.

[Max™]

Dungeon Campaigns are good exp, they tend to last the longest (at the cost of being harder than outside campaigns.)

and you end up mostly solo vs 29302392 orcs.... noone bothers for dungeon campaigns (sandi is infact loosing eldieme ...)

But, once Campaign mobs "aggro" a Fortification, you can pull them without linking.

I'll have to get a couple of LS mates together and try a couple of dungeon fights.

Also, doesn't have to be Ridill War's to pull in 30k+ an hour, don't neglect the BB Monks, tricked Perdu Voulge Wars, top end Drks, and the better Relic weapon wielders.

[Seditedi]

Yeah... 30-35k is pushing it lol.
25k is more likely.
BB MNK is pretty powerful, and it takes alot less damage than a Ridill WAR due to counter and such.

[Delekii]

2k for 20m of work? thatd be 6k a hour. A good merit pt can get 30-35k a hour. my guess would obviously merits get more, but campaign is more fun :D

This is an honest question, no flame. I want to know where the hell you're camping to get 35k/hr. @_@ Super elite party or not, I can't see getting over 28-30k, 30k being iffy. There's only 6 people allowed in a single party - unless you're using an outside healer. I've seen one party doing that, and it was just cheap. PM please.

Also, 2k/20min is 10k/hr if the hour has 100 minutes in it! :D (I got 2k exp earlier today for about ~25 minutes in Campaign including a small 3-5min break and 2 deaths).

Eh its not that hard actually. A empty thickets 3 pimped 3 ridill wars 2 brds and rdm on all point get it done very easily.

Bullshit.

A 30K+ an hour party either has the entire zone to themselves and outside healing/hasting, or is the most rare type of party there is. It isn't impossible but lets not talk as if it occurs more than once in a blue moon.

[Zacas1]

Only problem I have is that it doesnt give me skill ups for my great katana.

Wonder if they'll fix this... x.x The only reason I do beseiged over campaign now... is it gets easy skillups for magic >.>

[Tulun]

It's fun when time is short or if you are seeking. the *WORST* part of this game is seeking with nothing to do; and often you have to pay attention in game, because a delayed reply could mean they've found someone else.

which is another reason I like /dnc too. I was seeking and soloing on my 30-32 sam/dnc... was able to solo EM-T very easily. I could also easily solo and not worry about seeking (go afk for whatever amount I want).

They are finally giving (at least) some options of more casual exp. parties smash it, but parties also require a lot more attention, time commitment, etc...

[ASG]

2k for 20m of work? thatd be 6k a hour. A good merit pt can get 30-35k a hour. my guess would obviously merits get more, but campaign is more fun :D

This is an honest question, no flame. I want to know where the hell you're camping to get 35k/hr. @_@ Super elite party or not, I can't see getting over 28-30k, 30k being iffy. There's only 6 people allowed in a single party - unless you're using an outside healer. I've seen one party doing that, and it was just cheap. PM please.

Also, 2k/20min is 10k/hr if the hour has 100 minutes in it! :D (I got 2k exp earlier today for about ~25 minutes in Campaign including a small 3-5min break and 2 deaths).

Eh its not that hard actually. A empty thickets 3 pimped 3 ridill wars 2 brds and rdm on all point get it done very easily.

Bullshit.

A 30K+ an hour party either has the entire zone to themselves and outside healing/hasting, or is the most rare type of party there is. It isn't impossible but lets not talk as if it occurs more than once in a blue moon.

Well thats what i meant. whole zone is clear just that one party exping.

Edit: And ya it happens rarely because the zones hardly clear.

[Carmi]

Only problem I have is that it doesnt give me skill ups for my great katana.

Wonder if they'll fix this... x.x The only reason I do beseiged over campaign now... is it gets easy skillups for magic >.>

I doubt they will ever "fix" this because that'd be too good to be true. Isn't that much of an issue now anyway, I just have to hack Steelshells when I hit 75 to be nongimp!

[Max™]

2k for 20m of work? thatd be 6k a hour. A good merit pt can get 30-35k a hour. my guess would obviously merits get more, but campaign is more fun :D

This is an honest question, no flame. I want to know where the hell you're camping to get 35k/hr. @_@ Super elite party or not, I can't see getting over 28-30k, 30k being iffy. There's only 6 people allowed in a single party - unless you're using an outside healer. I've seen one party doing that, and it was just cheap. PM please.

Also, 2k/20min is 10k/hr if the hour has 100 minutes in it! :D (I got 2k exp earlier today for about ~25 minutes in Campaign including a small 3-5min break and 2 deaths).

Eh its not that hard actually. A empty thickets 3 pimped 3 ridill wars 2 brds and rdm on all point get it done very easily.

Bullshit.

A 30K+ an hour party either has the entire zone to themselves and outside healing/hasting, or is the most rare type of party there is. It isn't impossible but lets not talk as if it occurs more than once in a blue moon.

Well thats what i meant. whole zone is clear just that one party exping.

Edit: And ya it happens rarely because the zones hardly clear.

One thing to mention about this kind of party, I'm assuming you're camping right in the middle of the Skoffins, right?

So it's basically just a whirling slaughterfest as mobs pop on top of you, bards sleeping things that roam nearby trying to line them up for the melees, and pile of skoffin and mamool corpses beneath you.

If you have to pull the mobs at all, you're not likely to see 30k+.

If you're sitting where the mobs pop, and they spawn into a face full of axes, fists, ridills, and WS spam, yeah, it's plenty realistic.

[ASG]

Thats pretty much it.

[Max™]

Thats pretty much it.

The best Exp parties I've had, we weren't quite as decked, so we camped in the mamool pit to the side of the Skoffins towards Mamool, and were chaining them too fast for the repops, so lost chain a few times from the Bard scrambling to go try and grab a skoffin from an unfortunate series of WSes blowing mobs up too quick.

That same group we camped in nyzul birds bottom, War/Sam, Drk/Sam, Nin/War, BrdX2, Rdm/Whm, 25+k an hour, chain 250 when we called it, was pretty hot stuff, and around half the mobs that we fought were ones that linked or spawned on top of us.

If the birds spawned in a smaller area and were easier to link/camp in the middle of, I could imagine absolutely ridiculous chains there.

[Darkhearted]

35k an hour is like ~3 mobs per minute. I'm sorry, but you can't kill a skoffin every 20 seconds (20 seconds, with zero downtime; not 1 second, not 1 minute). I don't care if the WARs were hax and had dual wield ridills.

[Gunslinger]

You could before 2h re-nerf!

Poor samurai

[Luto]

I did 32k/hr today but I used two anniversary ring charges and an empress band charge. :<