Caimpain exp vs meripo exp

[Delekii]

wasn't exaggeration, that's how much we got. dunno what else to say. you are right about one thing though, it wasn't very long, just a little over an hour or so before folks started leaving.

edit: i don't have xp watch. have a link to it? wouldn't mind picking it up.

math > your eyes

There are not enough mobs to support a party killing at that speed without a cor, even if you count 2 or 3 birds from down below.

[mallister]

exactly. i go into pt 2k into a merit, when i leave i have 3 merits and i'm 7kish into the next. pt lasted a few minutes over an hour, me and several others had to leave after that. that comes out to somewhere between 32-34k/hour. i'm not trying to continue the 'yes i did/no you didn't' thing that's going on here but come on guys, addition and subtraction aren't groundbreaking concepts.

[aurik]

Except, the mobs don't repop fast enough to get 34k in an hour at that location. Especially without a corsair.

[Milkymallards]

Give it 2-3 months, 35-40k/hr will be the new number thrown down out of thin air by people just eyeballing a clock.

[nekoshoonen]

Campaign has been a godsend, I hate meriting on my RDM for more than 1-1.5hours.. it's the most dull experience ever, I hate meriting in general because it's always the same camps and melee generally annoy the hell out of me when i'm on rdm.

I don't mind a relaxing manaburn with a couple of friends or duoing with another BLU (or BLU burn but those have been rare for me) every now and again, but it all just feels like work and grind. Campaign doesn't. Campaign feels like fun and I want to do it. and i also get exp from having fun.

It may not beat Merit Exp but it doesn't drive me insane like merit exp does.

[Gathzel]

I can't but agree with what many others have said: It doesn't compare to a proper meripo, but it's still a solid source of exp that is relatively effortless, and above all: NO PICKUPs. I've really been waiting for something you can do to pass an hour that is still fairly productive, and something that can be done solo for those days when you just don't feel like managing a party of dolts. It's also a nice way to lvl your lower jobs, I went DRG59-60 in campaign, ate meat and hit just fine... seems like you get no level differance acc penalty on them, or they are just incredibly buff lvl 55 mobs.

[Max™]

Some of them have Easy Prey type accuracy issues with me and my unmerited War Evasion+Neutral Evasion gear, some are a lot more nasty.

I'd say the levels of Campaign mobs range from 55-60ish to 80 for some of the higher guards, and some of the top bosses I'd assume would be 85+, Bakgodek hits hard as hell, has shitloads of HP, and laughs at fully buffed WSes, I know he's a Paladin, but he's a really tough one to boot.

[levish]

All this talk of 30k xp/hour and I am absolutely delighted when the moons align and I get a PUG that gets over 15k

[Capo]

exactly. i go into pt 2k into a merit, when i leave i have 3 merits and i'm 7kish into the next. pt lasted a few minutes over an hour, me and several others had to leave after that. that comes out to somewhere between 32-34k/hour. i'm not trying to continue the 'yes i did/no you didn't' thing that's going on here but come on guys, addition and subtraction aren't groundbreaking concepts.

exp rings?

[Meepein]

Gonna reitterate what has been said, Campaign does not replace xp parties, but rather supplements them. The only times I go lfg is when I know I will have a few hours to dedicate to a part with (probably) no interruption from my LS or life in general. This means that going from 60-75 on DRK has been a long journey, since I would find no use going lfg on DRK68 an hour before I normally go to bed. What's the point when I would not get an invite or a party together in an hour?

Now, I just go out and do Campaign when I have free time. If it is before a LS event or before something irl for me, I just do battles as I see fit, not really caring about the rate of xp, it's very casual for me. If it's fast, go me, if not, oh well, no big deal. If I actually do have time, I go from battle to battle with my lfg flag up, since I can get to virtually any camp within minutes. This has basically helped me get 74 (well, I ain't 74 yet, but I am within 1 good campaign battle away of hitting it).

Campaign battles are, really, one of the best additions they could have added to the game. They are great casual fights that you do not have to organize anything for and have decent rewards.

[Popsiclestick]

I have leveled a 2 box character 73 THF-> 74 THF because she is just gimp and I have no time in an HNM LS =3 Netted 40k in XP so far over a course of 1 week. I think I will level my 68 BLM during Campaign too since BLM solo exp annoys me

In between HNM pop's, events, or for 1 hour of time after events, I found this was the best way to get XP. I can let her die and not worry if I afk.

Almost claimed a Fafnir too while a Lungo-Nango Campaign was in full swing n.n;

I think I will level my 68 BLM during Campaign too since BLM solo exp annoys me.

One thing Campaign helps out is allowing gimps get some decent XP. No real pressure in getting gear, all Runic Portals, food, etc. Perfect for 2box accounts :D

[Valrath]

Some of them have Easy Prey type accuracy issues with me and my unmerited War Evasion+Neutral Evasion gear, some are a lot more nasty.

I'd say the levels of Campaign mobs range from 55-60ish to 80 for some of the higher guards, and some of the top bosses I'd assume would be 85+, Bakgodek hits hard as hell, has shitloads of HP, and laughs at fully buffed WSes, I know he's a Paladin, but he's a really tough one to boot.

Some of the Orc drks cast Blizzard and Thunder on me, that's tier 1 spells, so yeah, some of the grunts are low levels. Then again, that Orc NM, Deathlord something is insane. Don't try to blood tank it, he hits hard than most HNMs hit my pld.

[Capo]

One thing Campaign helps out is allowing gimps get some decent XP.

this is good why?

[Mytiwar]

exactly. i go into pt 2k into a merit, when i leave i have 3 merits and i'm 7kish into the next. pt lasted a few minutes over an hour, me and several others had to leave after that. that comes out to somewhere between 32-34k/hour. i'm not trying to continue the 'yes i did/no you didn't' thing that's going on here but come on guys, addition and subtraction aren't groundbreaking concepts.

exp rings?

Again, wouldn't justify.

He just lied lol, 1k exp more or less wouldn't change that fact. 7-10k exp less though...

[yrpaine]

campaign is a godsend to jobs that are not merit pty friendly (pld and smn for example) i get to keep my buffer up on pld + smn and merit as brd/rdm/war/nin or mnk

EXP watch and the exp count on parsers don't give accurate numbers until you've been fighting for a while. it always shows rediculous exp/hr when you kill 4 mobs fast at the start of a pty and then goes down closer to what you're actually getting. exp for 10 min, while staring at EXP watch to brag about the highest exp/hr you saw isn't ever going to be accurate.

[Max™]

Some of them have Easy Prey type accuracy issues with me and my unmerited War Evasion+Neutral Evasion gear, some are a lot more nasty.

I'd say the levels of Campaign mobs range from 55-60ish to 80 for some of the higher guards, and some of the top bosses I'd assume would be 85+, Bakgodek hits hard as hell, has shitloads of HP, and laughs at fully buffed WSes, I know he's a Paladin, but he's a really tough one to boot.

Some of the Orc drks cast Blizzard and Thunder on me, that's tier 1 spells, so yeah, some of the grunts are low levels. Then again, that Orc NM, Deathlord something is insane. Don't try to blood tank it, he hits hard than most HNMs hit my pld.

He has Ridiculous Dmg +%, did a 2082 Damage Crit to me without Zerk up, and something like 300ish normal defense.

[Thistle]

Campaign battles are, really, one of the best additions they could have added to the game. They are great casual fights that you do not have to organize anything for and have decent rewards.

This sums it up for me. Campaign is fun, your interactions with random idiots are kept to a minimum, the reward is good, and it fills up as little or as much time as you want.

Home for lunch? How about a nice 2K XP with your sandwich! Hate random pickup parties? You can solo in Campaign perfectly fine!

Besieged had been my favorite thing in the game until Wings came out and gave us the 24/7 Besieged: Campaign.

[Meepein]

Besieged had been my favorite thing in the game until Wings came out and gave us the 24/7 Besieged: Campaign.

See, I liked Besieged in a way. I saw what they intended, but unfortunately, it got screwed up along the way. Besieged just ended up being way too lag filled, and way too inconsistent, to really live up to it's promise. It was a good concept, but the application of this concept was poor (at least, for Besieged.)

With that said, I think it is fair to say SE learned from Besieged and realized it's issues (the biggest one being that 700 people + tons of mobs with AOE's makes for huge lagfests of lagginess.) I look at Campaign Battles as Besieged v2.0, the improved concept. Not that Besieged is total crap (I like getting a lot of IS for a small amount of work), but Campaign is just made of win and awesome.

[Kyreth]

As another burnedout 75 RDM on meritgrinding, I <3 Campaign (and Besieged, too.)

Besieged is slower and rarer, but coughs up handy gobs of IS for an hour or less spent, which can be used later for whatever- coins, ISNM's, etc. Laggy, but useful and good as Al Zahbi is the new Jeuno for the 50+ crowd. Add in a nice chunk of exp and it's a winner for me.

Campaign is faster, fun, and more playable...so what's not to love? Both are useful to me, even if one's more enjoyable...I like both.

Meritpo exp will beat either. Big fucking deal. It's not fun. I'll take slower and fun over faster and brain-damaging.

[Meloria]

I can related to getting bored/stressed in merit parties. After and hour and a half or so on rdm, I've had enough. Campaign is nice and low key. Perfect for the hour or so before or after an event. Quickly capped nin xp and got a couple of merits.

No doubt that merit xp > campaign xp, but campaign is so much more fun.