Almighty Apkallu: Found, and then lost again.

[nitsuj]

lurked awhile *yes read entire thread*, i know rose garden was mentioned but has anyone thought of the even more elusive noble mold as a similar pop condition *seasonal + 21hr*, considering all the recent sighting happened in a very close time frame and now AA dropped off the grid again sounds plausible, maybe a mating season or something

I wouldn't discount this idea.... I've camped Noble Mold a bunch and found him very annoying. But the pop conditions are pretty much nailed down.

I'd try to compile the moon/day/month/weather when we see him as well (if the bugger LETS us see him >.<). Maybe this whole "mating season" thing could pan out...

[Knightblazer]

Hey All,

As intended Nagoshi, Phalanx and I killed Proteus for the Argus and Leech King test. (For those interested we got the Phantom Fleuret and a Shark Necklace)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...oteusDrops.jpg

Anyway, after killing Proteus we started riding the boat from Nashmau to Whitegate immediately. After camping AA for the 37+ Hours that we did, I never got an HP reading for AA. For the last two boat rides, I believe I got an HP reading for AA.

So this means he's not going to pop...?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...r86/AALog1.jpg

HP Reading?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...r86/AALog2.jpg
EDIT
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...r86/AALog3.jpg
EDIT

Although, now after the two boat rides with HP readings, on the third ride there was no HP reading for AA. I'll make an edit to let you know if I get an HP reading after some more boat rides.

EDIT: Forth Ride, there was no HP reading. We're going to kill Proteus again and come back to see if AA has an HP reading.

EDIT Sixth Ride, HP reading again. Hmmm...

[KillerPLD]

You're getting a HP reading but it hasn't spawned? I am confused by what these HP readings mean.

[Sonded]

I have had an HP reading for AA constantly for the past 3-4 days, with Proteus dead and with him alive. I think that means the window is open, but of course it doesn't mean hes going to pop XD.

Think of the HP reading as a way to know if the NM or its window is up. If you use a program that searches the memory you can see if a NM like Xol is up when its daytime, or if a random window is open.

[Pendas]

No, it's not the same thing

Fallacy of equivocation. If i don't like being left alone, does that make me lonely? If I don't like having an empty stomach, does that make me hungry?

Dear god I'm not going to argue Semantics here when trying to pop this already frustrating NM.

Perhaps Proteus is the trigger that opens AA's Window. Killing Proteus will open AAs window in the Nash > WG Boat for a specific amount of time until it closes or until AA Pops. Since AA "doesn't like being left alone" he will only spawn on that one specific boat ride, and if he isn't killed, despawns at the end of the boat ride and his window closes and Proteus must be killed again in order for his window to re-open.

Proteus is known to be a shape-shifter in mythology, so Proteus could be Almighty Apkallu simply transformed into a more non-threatening form, and killing his initial form is what forces him to shape-shift.

Happy? Now lets forget this de-rail and continue

[KillerPLD]

So basically in the SS I took of Artmoney, it's just a HP reading saying that the window is up? (SS is a few posts up, if you don't mind looking at it and telling me whats going on.)

[Knightblazer]

Am I reading the memory correctly...? I'm going off of the tutorial from page 1.

The 11 B0 03 01 is AA's Memory Monster ID. After his ID, it's all 00's, meaning he's not popped or is not going to pop? Correct?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...r86/AALog1.jpg

I was assuming the reading of 64 is its HP.

Popping and Depopping?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...6/PopDepop.jpg


EDIT Ok, that answers that. So it only means his window is open, awesome. Thanks.

[Shodoka]

Greetings.

I've been helping a friend camp this NM a lot lately.... I've been talking w/ the one person on Gilgamesh who posted here that fought it and I thought of something..

Are we totally sure that Proteus and AA are NOT on a shared window like LK and Argus? The reason I say this is because over the xmas weekend we killed Proteus for a COR friend for the sword (got the drop 1/1). Now suddenly Maikeru and crew spot Almighty Apkallu shortly afterwards. Now they (to my knowledge because I talk to them about it a lot) have yet to see AA again but I have seen Proteus again on the ship going the other way.

This may just be pure coincidence and speculation, but it's too coincidental for AA to pop shortly after we killed Proteus.

To who asked... For Proteus... Not sure about respawn timer if killed but I see it on the ship going from Whitegate to Nashmau to be about every 2 hrs on the dot.

If anyone on Gilgamesh wants to help me test this theory I'll be more than happy to assist in boat riding, killing of Proteus, etc... just send a tell.

Yes Ezrael I'm on gilgamesh and want to camp this cocksucking nm^^ looked for you tonight but didnt see you. send me a tell in game. Shodoka is my name. Might not have much time to camp with kings etc~ but the free time I do have I will help.

[AkashiXI]

I apologize for the slight derail, but I can't for the life of me find out what you guys are talking about when you mention Apkallu #7 or Apkallu #w/e. I tried searching but no avail can someone please explain it to me? Thanks!

[Pergo]

Both the Whitegate> Nashmau, and the Nashmau> Whitegate ships both have 2 Apkallu in their dat file.

On the Nashmau> Whitegate zone, the Apkallu's ID on the monster list are 7 and 8.

On the Nashmau> Whitegate zone, when people check the memory to see what monsters have popped and depopped, the 2nd Apkallu (#8) has not popped. (i believe on any server at all).

Both Apkallu on the Whitegate > Nashmau boat have popped np, and both are up at the same time, but any only 1 Apkallu is popping on the Nashmau>Whitegate boat, and thats #7.

edit: i mixed up the numbers, but the concept is still the same

[Knightblazer]

Leech King & Argus Theory...

Killed Proteus and immediately started camping AA. We've been camping AA for 5 hours now and no spawn. We're going to bed. We'll try this theory again when we have more time to test it.

lurked awhile *yes read entire thread*, i know rose garden was mentioned but has anyone thought of the even more elusive noble mold as a similar pop condition *seasonal + 21hr*, considering all the recent sighting happened in a very close time frame and now AA dropped off the grid again sounds plausible, maybe a mating season or something

I wouldn't discount this idea.... I've camped Noble Mold a bunch and found him very annoying. But the pop conditions are pretty much nailed down.

I'd try to compile the moon/day/month/weather when we see him as well (if the bugger LETS us see him >.<). Maybe this whole "mating season" thing could pan out...

The Noble Mold is another interesting theory. I'm keeping tabs on the Month, Day and Year in our log. Hopefully keeping track of this information will help uncover his spawn conditions.

[AkashiXI]

Both the Whitegate> Nashmau, and the Nashmau> Whitegate ships both have 2 Apkallu in their dat file.

On the Nashmau> Whitegate zone, the Apkallu's ID on the monster list are 7 and 8.

On the Nashmau> Whitegate zone, when people check the memory to see what monsters have popped and depopped, the 1st Apkallu (#7) has not popped. (i believe on any server at all).

Both Apkallu on the Whitegate > Nashmau boat have popped np, and both are up at the same time, but any only 1 Apkallu is popping on the Nashmau>Whitegate boat, and thats #7.

Thanks :nikkei:

[Khamsin]

None of those screenshots from ArtMoney were of the right spot to tell if AA had spawned, and there's nothing in there that'd say if his window was open. It's HP, if it had popped or was currently up, would be elsewhere in memory, too. The screenshot of all the mob names and IDs was simply a replication of the .dat in memory, which lists all mobs popped or not.

Take another look at the screenshots in OP and compare their structure with what you find, and look for something similar. First try looking for something you know has popped before, or is even currently up. You should find either something that looks like what's in the OP, with the mob name, ID, HP, etc. all in their exact positions relative to each other... or, you can also look for a list of just mob IDs (no names) resembling a screenshot somewhere else in this thread.

[Titanss]

You people saying you have camped for 72 hrs might as well give it up it has gone weeks and weeks without being in the memory on Cerberus. It has to be related to some mobs on the boat.

[Mierin_Eronaile]

I just started to play around with Artmon and I've read all your posts but I still can't understand it fully.

I started off with searching for Apkallu#8 and found the memory span in which the mobs appear. I also found the place in memory where a listing of the .dat is (as mentioned in the last post by Khamsin). Anyhow, I narrow my search into the range where I found Apkallu#8, and when I try to search for Apkallu#7 (07) or AA (16) I get no hits. I do find the pugils, the thunder elemental that just poped and all the other 'normal' mobs. Does this mean that it hasn't poped, that window isn't open, or that I'm doing something very very wrong?

/M

[EternalSnow]

I'm pretty sure the AA has been killed on my server odin I saw some guy with the sword that it drops like a month or so ago. I forgot his name ;o

[Titania]

I'm pretty sure the AA has been killed on my server odin I saw some guy with the sword that it drops like a month or so ago. I forgot his name ;o

...amazing...

[Knightblazer]

I'm pretty sure the AA has been killed on my server odin I saw some guy with the sword that it drops like a month or so ago. I forgot his name ;o

AA doesn't drop the sword

[KillerPLD]

I changed my search settings later and got exactly what the OP listed. I put exact value and put in the value in backwards. This would mean it has popped right? I'll post SSs here in a min when I get on the boat.

EDIT: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4862/teeheelc2.png
That means it has popped and depopped with 100% HP right?

[Eanae]

I'm pretty sure the AA has been killed on my server odin I saw some guy with the sword that it drops like a month or so ago. I forgot his name ;o

AA doesn't drop the sword

We have no actual proof on that, but all evidence points to that it doesn't. :rocl: