Almighty Apkallu: Found, and then lost again.

[Rocl]

Fun facts:
Enki was the lord of the apkallu in Sumerian mythology so you could reference him as the Almighty Apkallu...
Enki was the lord of semen.

You just might be onto something.

That's why he's so lonely

[Titania]

Maybe I'm being naive, but when has a mob or an item had anything to do with its real-life inspiration?

[Thistle]

Fun facts:
Enki was the lord of the apkallu in Sumerian mythology so you could reference him as the Almighty Apkallu...
Enki was the lord of semen.

You just might be onto something.

c'mon AA! *fap fap fap*
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Or perhaps you have to have a woman or a gay man in your party to make him pop? :rocl:

[Araius]

Semi-seriously, maybe there needs to be a female on the boat to pop him? :rocl:

[ByeByeTasai]

Maybe I'm being naive, but when has a mob or an item had anything to do with its real-life inspiration?

Ah, once again someone commenting without reading through the threads, oh well.

And to answer your question; Argus's mythological references have to do with him being a creature with a thousand eyes, and there is something to do with a peacock in his mythology for one. Not sure about any monster's historical background relating to spawn conditions though. But if you look back and read my original post you'll see where i said that these are fun facts and are not meant to be applied to theories.

[Yuri-G]

Fun facts:
Enki was the lord of the apkallu in Sumerian mythology so you could reference him as the Almighty Apkallu...
Enki was the lord of semen.

You just might be onto something.

c'mon AA! *fap fap fap*
?

Or perhaps you have to have a woman or a gay man in your party to make him pop? :rocl:

Well clearly we have to figure out if he's gay or straight first. Or possibly bi? :rocl: Or maybe he differs from server to server, at least Fairy and Unicorn should be easy to figure out.

[Titania]

Maybe I'm being naive, but when has a mob or an item had anything to do with its real-life inspiration?

Ah, once again someone commenting without reading through the threads, oh well.

And to answer your question; Argus's mythological references have to do with him being a creature with a thousand eyes, and there is something to do with a peacock in his mythology for one. Not sure about any monster's historical background relating to spawn conditions though. But if you look back and read my original post you'll see where i said that these are fun facts and are not meant to be applied to theories.

Ah and here's someone to get high and mighty. My comment was not directed at you, notice how I did not quote you? Funny how that works. Since no single person was specified, it was a general question to the population. If you had read my post for what it asked, rather than immediately taking offense to it, you would have been able to discern that it was nothing more than a question.

Being that no monster that I, nor you, can think of in this game has any relation to its real life mythos, I question why people waste their time spouting off in these small offshoots. Rather than spending their time laughing about the inspiration for mobs, their time would be better spent actually testing out the legitamete theories presented in the thread.

But yeah, you certainly can accuse me of not reading the thread. Have fun with that.

[Edrick]

Being that no monster that I, nor you, can think of in this game has any relation to its real life mythos, I question why people waste their time spouting off in these small offshoots. Rather than spending their time laughing about the inspiration for mobs, their time would be better spent actually testing out the legitamete theories presented in the thread.

i too think this is interesting enough to test, noble mold was a goddamn mystery just like AA... but thanks to his name and the relationship between noble rot, it gave clues

>.>

[Titania]

Being that no monster that I, nor you, can think of in this game has any relation to its real life mythos, I question why people waste their time spouting off in these small offshoots. Rather than spending their time laughing about the inspiration for mobs, their time would be better spent actually testing out the legitamete theories presented in the thread.

i too think this is interesting enough to test, noble mold was a goddamn mystery just like AA... but thanks to his name and the relationship between noble rot, it gave clues

>.>

So what you're trying to say is that a mob with a weather pop condition and a parallel secondary condition of not touching the PH (I believe that what it was?) has something to do with some sort of real life inspiration?

[Svenghali]

ladies, please

[Titania]

Nono, I'm not trying to troll or flame. Was I being naive in the first place, or is the discussion of inspirations completely separate from the pop conditions of a mob?

[Svenghali]

until it's known how exactly AA pops, any and all theories should be spoken of. read the AV theory thread and see how some RL stuff is incorporated. not that it is true, but until there's a right answer, there aren't any wrong suggestions.

[Titania]

That's fair. I can work with that.

[Eticket]

Maybe I'm being naive, but when has a mob or an item had anything to do with its real-life inspiration?

Fafnir

So what you're trying to say is that a mob with a weather pop condition and a parallel secondary condition of not touching the PH (I believe that what it was?) has something to do with some sort of real life inspiration?

According to the background on the non-bg wiki (which is where a lot of the pertinent historical data/mythos is presented), Noble Rot requires a set period of moisture or rain during a specific part of the year in order to manifest.

Noble Mold requires rainy weather during a specific portion of the vana year in order for it to pop. Granted, it's not the only pop requirement but it's evident that SE used the background or mythos as inspiration.

[Raelz]

You guys are being silly; it's not that mobs don't have anything to do with their myths(that's just ridiculous, almost all related to myths are tied to their real-world inspiration in some way), it's that the pop's and spawns, as the previous poster said, usually have nothing to do with the myths.

Example of spawn not being connected:

Sigurd didn't wait 21-24 hours to kill Fafnir.

Example of mythos tie-in:

Fafnir drops Ridill, one of the treasures in his horde according to the myth. (source: FFWiki)

Just sayin'

EDIT: Damn you Eticket, distributing learnings before me!

[Eticket]

EDIT: Damn you Eticket, distributing learnings before me!

lol @ simul-post

knowing SE and how crazy some NMs are in this game, I agree with Svenghali that no theory should be completed discounted until this whole thing is nailed down.

if SE put half the thought they put into these NMs into some of their policies and game mechanics, we'd all be in a much happier place.

[Araius]

if SE put half the thought they put into these NMs into some of their policies and game mechanics, we'd all be in a much happier place.

Quoted.

For.

Truth.

[Titanss]

until it's known how exactly AA pops, any and all theories should be spoken of. read the AV theory thread and see how some RL stuff is incorporated. not that it is true, but until there's a right answer, there aren't any wrong suggestions.

Yes and that has gotten us so far with AV also. Don't worry I already know you next post. I already know I'm a ass.


Edit: Make sure plausible ideas ie. other NM's have poped this way etc. Some of this shit makes my head hurt.

[ronin sparthos]

if SE put half the thought they put into these NMs into some of their policies and game mechanics, we'd all be in a much happier place.

Quoted.

For.

Truth.

Dev team has much more room to have 'fun' >.>

Where fun is: how can we make an NM as cute as an apkallu so evil and rare that the masses will make not one but two threads on how to spawn him!

[Pendas]

Edit: Make sure plausible ideas ie. other NM's have poped this way etc. Some of this shit makes my head hurt.

Problem with this is we've already encountered Aht Urghan NMs that pop through conditions that SE has never used before in the Past. Lamia No. 19 and the NMs from Tootoroon's Treasure Hut fit this bill, so its completely possible that AA also has a unique condition unlike any other NM. It's making all of our heads hurt