Almighty Apkallu: Found, and then lost again.

[Demosthenes11]

I'm still thinking it's a glitched/broken PH and the few times it's popped have been right after maint. when AA has popped instead of the PH that never pops. Reading through all the testing and the limited pop data, and knowing SE's record of fixing or even noticing anything 'broken', it seems the most logical answer.

lol?
this thread = tl;dr?

[Breemer]

Interestingly I'm getting the warp drive boats from Whitegate to Nashmau, but when I was too lazy to run to the moogle and switch to BLM to warp back the other day and got the boat (there was some logic in there somewhere I believe) I don't seem to be getting the warp speed boats in the other direction.

OT: No way you live in Notts, I thought I was the only person in the midlands with a PC

@Yukihoshi: I think you hit the nail on the head right there, seems like people have tried everything and still not managed it and when we ask for help all we get is some riddle which just makes us ask more questions than in the first place.

[Eticket]

I'm still thinking it's a glitched/broken PH and the few times it's popped have been right after maint. when AA has popped instead of the PH that never pops. Reading through all the testing and the limited pop data, and knowing SE's record of fixing or even noticing anything 'broken', it seems the most logical answer.

lol?
this thread = tl;dr?

Apkallu 7 (or whichever one never pops) is the placeholder. After a maintenance either the NM pops or Ap 7 doesn't. Like someone suggested a while ago, SE probably went to check it, saw AA pop and called it good. It explains why no one has seen it since the last maintenance day. I bet when the server resets for the big update in March we'll get 2 or 3 pops then see nothing again for weeks/months. This of course depends on them fixing the boats.

[Demosthenes11]

I'm still thinking it's a glitched/broken PH and the few times it's popped have been right after maint. when AA has popped instead of the PH that never pops. Reading through all the testing and the limited pop data, and knowing SE's record of fixing or even noticing anything 'broken', it seems the most logical answer.

lol?
this thread = tl;dr?

Apkallu 7 (or whichever one never pops) is the placeholder. After a maintenance either the NM pops or Ap 7 doesn't. Like someone suggested a while ago, SE probably went to check it, saw AA pop and called it good. It explains why no one has seen it since the last maintenance day. I bet when the server resets for the big update in March we'll get 2 or 3 pops then see nothing again for weeks/months. This of course depends on them fixing the boats.

perhaps you missed the "FOUND!" part of this thread?

[spooky]

I'm still thinking it's a glitched/broken PH and the few times it's popped have been right after maint. when AA has popped instead of the PH that never pops. Reading through all the testing and the limited pop data, and knowing SE's record of fixing or even noticing anything 'broken', it seems the most logical answer.

lol?
this thread = tl;dr?

Apkallu 7 (or whichever one never pops) is the placeholder. After a maintenance either the NM pops or Ap 7 doesn't. Like someone suggested a while ago, SE probably went to check it, saw AA pop and called it good. It explains why no one has seen it since the last maintenance day. I bet when the server resets for the big update in March we'll get 2 or 3 pops then see nothing again for weeks/months. This of course depends on them fixing the boats.

perhaps you missed the "FOUND!" part of this thread?

Prehapsyou missed the "and then lost again" part of this thread.

[Spekkio]

I'm still thinking it's a glitched/broken PH and the few times it's popped have been right after maint. when AA has popped instead of the PH that never pops. Reading through all the testing and the limited pop data, and knowing SE's record of fixing or even noticing anything 'broken', it seems the most logical answer.

lol?
this thread = tl;dr?

Apkallu 7 (or whichever one never pops) is the placeholder. After a maintenance either the NM pops or Ap 7 doesn't. Like someone suggested a while ago, SE probably went to check it, saw AA pop and called it good. It explains why no one has seen it since the last maintenance day. I bet when the server resets for the big update in March we'll get 2 or 3 pops then see nothing again for weeks/months. This of course depends on them fixing the boats.

perhaps you missed the "FOUND!" part of this thread?

Prehapsyou missed the "and then lost again" part of this thread.

aa was found popped significantly after a maint in the 2 photographed instances that we saw on these boards. what i find interesting was that the timing on the pops that were seen as well as the photograph of the birdman cape came so close together. this leads me to strongly consider the seasonal angle on this. apkallu are birds so they migrate so he shows up when he's migrating, apkallu look like penguins so they only show up in winter months, pick your leak-ridden theory. i'm not advocating any crackpot conjecture derived from some obscure reference to a mythos SE only tagged onto it at the last second before shipping it (like the vista compliant label. bloody debacle that was...) merely that the closeness of the 2 sighted and 1 otherwise verified pop of this NM strongly lead me to believe that there's some periodic condition that happened to be in window when all 3 were on the boat.

[Yuri-G]

A seasonal spawn would make a lot of sense considering what we've been seeing so far. Noble Mold-type conditions + a boat pop would explain a lot, not to mention being particularly cruel of SE to implement. However, their hint had nothing to do with this, unless by being "lucky" they meant checking him out during the right time of year, and that would be a rather bastardly thing to do. Do you think SE would ever be bastardly to you? Honest? :rocl:

[Eticket]

A seasonal spawn would make sense. There's got to be something else to it though as well. He hasn't shown up at all since those pops and wasn't there much at all before them. If it was purely based on time then he would have shown up a few more times. I guess until the warp boats get fixed though we won't really know.

[Demosthenes11]

I'm still thinking it's a glitched/broken PH and the few times it's popped have been right after maint. when AA has popped instead of the PH that never pops. Reading through all the testing and the limited pop data, and knowing SE's record of fixing or even noticing anything 'broken', it seems the most logical answer.

lol?
this thread = tl;dr?

Apkallu 7 (or whichever one never pops) is the placeholder. After a maintenance either the NM pops or Ap 7 doesn't. Like someone suggested a while ago, SE probably went to check it, saw AA pop and called it good. It explains why no one has seen it since the last maintenance day. I bet when the server resets for the big update in March we'll get 2 or 3 pops then see nothing again for weeks/months. This of course depends on them fixing the boats.

perhaps you missed the "FOUND!" part of this thread?

Prehapsyou missed the "and then lost again" part of this thread.

I expected more from you, i guess advanced thinking is too much?

[Koga]

Why is when you start posting, Demos, that this thread turns towards a fight.
To everyone that keeps posting the same shit, READ THE FUCKING THREAD IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT FINDING THE NM BECAUSE WE DON'T CARE ABOUT POINTLESS SPECULATION

[Eticket]

You're right. Sorry for trying to rerail the thread and actually make some progress other then 'lol it still hasn't popped'. Let's get back to talking about Noble Mold and Fomors again. Oh hey, has anyone thought about Ravin Raven? That's a bird right? Huh? Huh?

[Airenn]

A seasonal spawn would make sense. There's got to be something else to it though as well. He hasn't shown up at all since those pops and wasn't there much at all before them. If it was purely based on time then he would have shown up a few more times. I guess until the warp boats get fixed though we won't really know.

So for those that have seen/fought AA...

What season was it? -_-

[Thevaultdweller]

Duck season.

[Tomiko]

Duck season.

Wabbit Season!

[Ryko]

Duck season.

Wabbit Season!

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5060/firebr7.jpg
Duck season fire!

[Reality]

Duck season.

Wabbit Season!

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5060/firebr7.jpg
Duck season fire!

I'm a fiddler crab. Why don't you shoot me?! It's fiddler crab season!

[Spekkio]

Duck season.

Wabbit Season!

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5060/firebr7.jpg
Duck season fire!

I'm a fiddler crab. Why don't you shoot me?! It's fiddler crab season!

this is so win. i suddenly want to watch what's opera doc. so many great memories.

[Turnerbrown]

Hi. I'm new to BG forums, some NM hunters might know me from 'zam.

What I've read in this thread and elsewhere leads me to think that AA is similar to Stubborn Dredvodd.

There was a theory about him a while back, when people who were camping it noticed they always seemed to run across him on their first boat ride, after they hadn't camped it for a while.
I'm suggesting that the developers comments can be interpreted another way:

"* He doesn't like being left alone, and will wander off if no one is around to keep him company."

Despite this sounding like he wants people on the ferry, I think this statement says something else. To me, it reads "He will pop/his window will open" if he's left alone, i.e. if the barge isn't ridden for some time. The second part to me says, "after a certain time his window closes and he won't pop" if no one sees him during his window.

Think about being at a house where you're alone in one room, and there's a party going on in another. After a while, you get up and go see what's going on in the other room. But, if the party seems to be going along without you, eventually you go back to your solitude.
(The Almighty Apkallu as socially challenged theory).

You have my sympathy. At least with Phanauet Channel you could search for people in the zone to see what was going on. I don't believe you can remotely search for people aboard the Nashmau ferry.

My best advice is to either just ride the boat one or two times at random times, or camp the ferry dock and watch for people boarding it. If it goes empty for a few runs, check then.

If this is the trigger for the spawn or the window, it's no wonder no one ever sees AA. Dredvodd is rare enough in Phanauet Channel - I'd bet the Nashmau ferry sees more traffic than that barge does.

[miokomioko]

sigh.

[DragonCloud64]

sigh.

Obviously if you see a shadow behind the ferry before it takes off, it means AA is going to pop.