Retards and Campaign

[Apelila]

Too many retards in Campaign... people taking the word of alla for god's and trying to drag out fights as long as possible (Hint: It's based on rank and what you do, not how long the god damn fight is!)

Mages who refuse to cure or raise and just melee. Hell, I had a RDM in my PT other day, asswipe wouldn't so much as look at me when I died fighting a mob together. Just moved on to the next mob and kept swinging...


I really, really hope SE finds a way to severely punish all the selfish tards. Don't ****ing come to Campaign on a tank/healing class only to ignore your abilities and just melee. We have plenty of jobs that are designed to do that as it is.

They're failing. They'll rank up slower and get like 500 xp a battle. I <3 you mr. 1k per 3 hours.

[Gynin]

Stop hitting Quadavs from behind then. <_<

It's not my fault the Turtlebacks single-handedly brang sexy back.

I don't understand the JP tactic of rushing to meet them where they spawn, nothing says lovin' like having the Adamanking spawn with his thugs and wipe 25+ because the NPCs weren't there.

[Thistle]

Oh I also find it funny how everyone leaves the NM's alone to run around, and always attack the lower mobs, But allow tanks like me to solo these NM's, but will only attack the NM if someone is tanking it or there are people on it. I'd class them as the retards, the ones who don't want to "die" so they gang up with people fighting the lower ones instead of helping 1-2 people trying to take on the NM's. Thats your answer. Because they are too scared to die.

I see... So the reason I don't want to die is because I'm "scared" to, not because I'm next to useless while weakened?

Would you rather have me as a fully effective DRK killing non-NMs or a DRK with 300 HP (lol any hit = one-shotted!) and my already slow melee speed cut in half?

I die in Campaign all the time. I am not "scared" of it. However, it is in everyone's best interest that I remain un-weakened if possible. A weakened DRK is good for little other than dying again.

[zeroryoko]

I let them take hate, and switch target to a new one. :3

This is what I do. I don't have a problem with people attacking mobs I'm tanking, but it's the PLDs and other NINs that piss me off. They can clearly hold their own against a mob, but they join mine and use all their hate moves to take hate. Tanking gives points, so that pisses me off.

It's come to the point sometimes where I just run way away from the fort, wait for some mobs to come by, grab 2 and solo both on NIN/DNC. If people are going to be retarded, I'll be selfish. They can wait 10 minutes for me to kill 2 Quadavs before the Campaign finishes, if they're gonna be like that. :D

When I do campaign, I try to tank mobs until I am out of MP. If I die, I will only fight mobs that already have hate on someone else. I am a 72 Elvaan PLD.

[Septimus]

Reading this thread makes me so happy that I have a second character with WAM and BRD leveled up- Mr. WAR gets to go stabbity while getting a steady stream of reliable cures and hastes. The only thing that really holds me back is when Atum has to rest of MP after particularly tough mobs. (Gnats come to mind. >_<)

[Kyreth]

Sad part as a BRD with no healing gear (don't ask) I'm better off going /WAR, voking said mobs that no is touching, and keeping Hymnus up. Yup I'll die, sure they'll one shot me when I stand up. But I'm going to get more XP for getting the crap pounded out of me than hitting mobs for 0 when they uber defense up. I'll probably get better XP tossing cures but until I get my capital back and get gear again I won't know for sure.

1000 XP for keeping mobs at bay > 550 XP for swinging for 0.

You make Altana cry when you do this. Stop it. Do you melee mobs in exp PT's? Tell me you don't.

As a BRD, this is what you do- aside from not soloing.

Find a mob that's being fought. Debuff it. They'll stick and they help. It'll usually buff itself so that even if you do nothing else, your Finale will bite into a buff every time you can sing it. If you really feel bold, pick a mob and kite it with Lullaby breaks and /WHM for Stoneskin, or /RDM if you think you can stick Gravity. Buff yourself any time you're not nailing a mob with something, buffs = xp/AN. And don't solo. The more people you buff/help, the better your points at the end. If you think you're going to die for sure, Horde Lullaby + Mazurka and run like hell, reraise, get back into it with aggro cleared.

[Damane]

Nms are no issue to tank as pld/rdm on full def equipment and phalanx, they mostly hit for 0 or for max 10 dmg, ecxeptions are bagodek, deathlord rojgnoj and the warmachine. They are an issue and hit hard compared to the rest pussy NMs. I actually leave deathlord rojnoj allways up for a nin to tank or someone that is /nin, because he one shoted me twice with a 1400 crit hit.... with phalanx full könig and d.ring, god i fucking hate him. and the warmachine well, if you dont have shellra V and some barfira you are pritty much screwed

never gonna touch them again, because literally you need a healer on your side to survive them, but noone is willing to heal you so yeah... I leave theese 3 alone

[Kyreth]

Nms are no issue to tank as pld/rdm on full def equipment and phalanx, they mostly hit for 0 or for max 10 dmg, ecxeptions are bagodek, deathlord rojgnoj and the warmachine. They are an issue and hit hard compared to the rest pussy NMs. I actually leave deathlord rojnoj allways up for a nin to tank or someone that is /nin, because he one shoted me twice with a 1400 crit hit.... with phalanx full könig and d.ring, god i fucking hate him. and the warmachine well, if you dont have shellra V and some barfira you are pritty much screwed

never gonna touch them again, because literally you need a healer on your side to survive them, but noone is willing to heal you so yeah... I leave theese 3 alone

This is why I always try to PT in Campaign. Solo, you are good. With a duo/trio for backup, the result is a hit squad that can win, win, win and stay up the entire time doing so as long as the puller is smart.

[Thistle]

Nms are no issue to tank as pld/rdm on full def equipment and phalanx, they mostly hit for 0 or for max 10 dmg, ecxeptions are bagodek, deathlord rojgnoj and the warmachine.

Wow. And that, Shabazz, is a big part of the reason why I don't jump on an unclaimed NM. Why use the wrong tool for the job? Even the smaller orc NMs do major damage to me, so why are you so eager to toss any and all jobs at unclaimed NMs?

Please note I'm not complaining about the damage I take -- it's the trade off for dealing good damage. However you have to be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of your job and play accordingly.

[Max™]

Hell, I love the damage I take, it's where my Exp comes from, War/Dnc powah!

As for NM's, I usually let the mobs go past, "aggro" the Fortification, and then pull them off for me and my little group of people to defeat one at a time til reinforcements show up, be the NPC's or other players.

[Mytiwar]

worst is when you're sleep/nuking a mob, and some random idiot blu comes from nowhere and starts meleeing when the mob's @ 60% and he can't pull hate back.

So I died, and the blu wasnt even lvl 65 so he died right after. Go him.

[nekoshoonen]

Too many retards in Campaign... people taking the word of alla for god's and trying to drag out fights as long as possible (Hint: It's based on rank and what you do, not how long the god damn fight is!)

Mages who refuse to cure or raise and just melee. Hell, I had a RDM in my PT other day, asswipe wouldn't so much as look at me when I died fighting a mob together. Just moved on to the next mob and kept swinging...


I really, really hope SE finds a way to severely punish all the selfish tards. Don't ****ing come to Campaign on a tank/healing class only to ignore your abilities and just melee. We have plenty of jobs that are designed to do that as it is.

When i go rdm to campaign i go RDM/NIN i go to Melee (Capped sword merits and good melee gear on RDM kthx) i dont go to refresh/cure/haste everyone in my pty.. if i wanted to do that guess what i'd go and merit..

I'll take on a mob solo/duo NP don;t need your /melee/ help.. i can kill most campaign mobs by myself.

Both my RDM and BLU can solo in campaign with ease. and NO i won't cure you.. get /dnc to 37 and cure yourself in campaign if you're gonna keep dying.

[Thistle]

I'll take on a mob solo/duo NP don;t need your /melee/ help.. i can kill most campaign mobs by myself.

I'd believe it. I was duoing with a taru RDM this afternoon (never an NPC when you need one!) and he was kicking ass. He could have easily soloed without me, I felt bad for "leeching" off him (letting him tank much of the fight, turning away from the mob when I had to, etc).

Unfortunately I got disconnected after thirty minutes of that so... zero reward! >< Wish SE would be able to fix that somehow.

[Damane]

Nms are no issue to tank as pld/rdm on full def equipment and phalanx, they mostly hit for 0 or for max 10 dmg, ecxeptions are bagodek, deathlord rojgnoj and the warmachine.

Wow. And that, Shabazz, is a big part of the reason why I don't jump on an unclaimed NM. Why use the wrong tool for the job? Even the smaller orc NMs do major damage to me, so why are you so eager to toss any and all jobs at unclaimed NMs?

Please note I'm not complaining about the damage I take -- it's the trade off for dealing good damage. However you have to be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of your job and play accordingly.

I noted as pld/rdm, I wouldnt tank them on war/nin without healing support, because I would literally be down fast, because of all the tp moves.

[Kkel]

Nms are no issue to tank as pld/rdm on full def equipment and phalanx, they mostly hit for 0 or for max 10 dmg, ecxeptions are bagodek, deathlord rojgnoj and the warmachine.

Wow. And that, Shabazz, is a big part of the reason why I don't jump on an unclaimed NM. Why use the wrong tool for the job? Even the smaller orc NMs do major damage to me, so why are you so eager to toss any and all jobs at unclaimed NMs?

Please note I'm not complaining about the damage I take -- it's the trade off for dealing good damage. However you have to be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of your job and play accordingly.

Nah, i gotta call out on that one. DRK/WHM is damn near indestructable in Campaign. I can easily solo lesser beastmen mobs, especially since they're all Aspir'able and don't resist Dread Spikes/Stun like Besieged mobs. Absorb-AGI can practically negate Orcish Counterstance, Quadavs hit like little girls, and Yags take absurd amounts of damage. Even Moonfang Warriors don't hit that hard.

On DRK/WHM i usually find myself throwing up Dread Spikes, Diaga'ing a pack of mobs beating on a tower, and just kiting until people are ready to kill them. You can easily do this while weakened and not be at real risk unless you catch someone like One-Eyed @ Vunkerl. On Batillia Downs you can kite in a circle indefinitly because of their retarded pathing.

[Damane]

This is why I always try to PT in Campaign. Solo, you are good. With a duo/trio for backup, the result is a hit squad that can win, win, win and stay up the entire time doing so as long as the puller is smart.

I duo/trio usually with my friends that do also regularly campaign, one comes as rdm/blu with full crimson gear and the other is whm. We can literally hold a wave of mobs ourself, the fun starts when 2 waves come into play :D . its basicly a 2x tank + healer/buffer setup. my rdm/blu friend gets hit for 0 dmg too, but he has the same issues as me on deathlord, one shoted... warmachine and bagodek are no problem with this setup tough.

[Kyreth]

This is why I always try to PT in Campaign. Solo, you are good. With a duo/trio for backup, the result is a hit squad that can win, win, win and stay up the entire time doing so as long as the puller is smart.

I duo/trio usually with my friends that do also regularly campaign, one comes as rdm/blu with full crimson gear and the other is whm. We can literally hold a wave of mobs ourself, the fun starts when 2 waves come into play :D . its basicly a 2x tank + healer/buffer setup. my rdm/blu friend gets hit for 0 dmg too, but he has the same issues as me on deathlord, one shoted... warmachine and bagodek are no problem with this setup tough.

If you can Gravity Deathlord and hold aggro, it's a nuke-till-he-glows-while-dragging-through-NPC's funfest. You've got more than enough recovery to deal with anything he tosses in kite mode. I do believe he's reasonably stunnable, too...so if Gravity wears early, you should be able to Stun/Headbutt (Repose/Sleep if no DoT's are on him, good luck on that unless you can get him coming in).

[Nekio]

worst is when you're sleep/nuking a mob, and some random idiot blu comes from nowhere and starts meleeing when the mob's @ 60% and he can't pull hate back.

That's fine, as long as you aren't sleep/nukega'ing more than one mob, and that when your mob inevitably is last to die you stand there and get beat into the ground with a smile on your face as the melees finish it off. I swear to god, if I see one more BLM kite a mob from 20 melees because "i can't stop or i'll die" I'm gonna kill a puppy. Grow a pair of tiny pre-pubescent balls, you pussies. You could have died, reraised, wiped hate and nuked for another couple hundred points safely in the time you wasted kiting a pack of players.

Both my RDM and BLU can solo in campaign with ease. and NO i won't cure you.. get /dnc to 37 and cure yourself in campaign if you're gonna keep dying.

OK. Don't "solo" the mob I'm already soloing then, like every single RDM/NIN I've seen in Campaign since I got the expansion. And ffs if you're not going to cure me, at least raise me if I die.

[Thistle]

Nah, i gotta call out on that one. DRK/WHM is damn near indestructable in Campaign. I can easily solo lesser beastmen mobs, especially since they're all Aspir'able and don't resist Dread Spikes/Stun like Besieged mobs.

You can easily do this while weakened and not be at real risk unless you catch someone like One-Eyed @ Vunkerl. On Batillia Downs you can kite in a circle indefinitly because of their retarded pathing.

Oh, I'll fully agree with you on the first part -- I can solo/tank non-NMs just fine. But I have to disagree about the weakened part, though part of that might be my style. I try to never drop below 150 MP (cost of RR) so that if I die I can recast RR again right away (reduce chances of ever being left behind dead while everyone warps off to the next fight). While weakened, with three MP merits, I have 158 MP. So basically, while weakened, I cast nothing. That makes staying alive a little more challenging.

[Intense]

And ffs if you're not going to cure me, at least raise me if I die.

QFT, you may be able to kill most of the mobs solo, but you cant solo them all.. So help out those around you.

For the record, I keep RR items so I dont really "need" mages to raise me, but it still bothers me those who take the attitude of not wanting to to help out others.