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  1. #41
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    NPCs need to stay strong, they are our only defense if no player goes to that zone, but the problem is that they all gather to one fort just like players do: you can get 5 waves of NPCs in W.Saruta for 1 wave of Yagudo BRDs, 2 waves of NPCs at Fort KN against another wave of Yagudo WHM, while citadel is endlessly being chewed on with no NPC or PC around to defend, which kinda... sucked. Another time, I was alone in Sauromogue holding 6 Yagudo NIN while the NM beat on the fort, the NPC came 45 minutes later, 5 minutes or so after other players arrived, which was kinda... unfun. They just need to fix the NPC spawning condition or something...

  2. #42
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Probably has something to do with Slaughterhouse I-III, and maybe some other extra stuff that has yet to be noticed. Well, one thing is that some Campaign battles(especially in Garliage) have been starting and ending within 5 seconds. Also, the fact some zones are constantly be hit with battles might be a glitch(or it could just be a beastmen tactic or something).

  3. #43
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by Soarian
    But, seriously... I think there's something wrong with Camp Ops. I've only had Resource procurement, Supply manufacture, and Vanguard Lv1 for a week or so now. If this isn't right, I hope it's addressed somehow.
    I've had a similar issue, for the past 9-10 days the only Campaign Ops available have been Stock and Awe and Material Storm. Other people I've talked to are saying that they have only been able to get one or two different ones for a while too. I also hope this isn't a normal thing and that it
    Same issue here, except I've had Escort the Moron and Buy a Log from the AH. Haven't bothered going back to the past yet in a couple of days because I'm not repeating those again.

  4. #44
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by nekura
    Quote Originally Posted by Soarian
    But, seriously... I think there's something wrong with Camp Ops. I've only had Resource procurement, Supply manufacture, and Vanguard Lv1 for a week or so now. If this isn't right, I hope it's addressed somehow.
    I've had a similar issue, for the past 9-10 days the only Campaign Ops available have been Stock and Awe and Material Storm. Other people I've talked to are saying that they have only been able to get one or two different ones for a while too. I also hope this isn't a normal thing and that it
    Same issue here, except I've had Escort the Moron and Buy a Log from the AH. Haven't bothered going back to the past yet in a couple of days because I'm not repeating those again.
    Have you had your rank assessed, or are you only being given those specific options for Ops and nothing else?

  5. #45
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Have you had your rank assessed, or are you only being given those specific options for Ops and nothing else?
    For a few days I had only Stock and Awe available, then I ranked up and it opened up Material Storm too. Every other category I've checked has been empty the whole time, so these two specific ones are the only ones that have been available to me. I have no idea if this has anything to do with your nations objective or not but that could be the reason. For all I know it could be normal and that would really suck.

  6. #46
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by blister1
    For fuck seaks fix the Whitegate NPC's. I've literally gotten "locked" the last 10 times I've talked to Rytaal. After every run I go and refresh my tag and get shafted.
    Same here. I've either gotten Locked up, BlackScreen, or Shutdown when trying to talk to "Ugrihd", "Kaduru-Haiduru"(Warp-Taru), and upon departure/arrive by the Warp-Taru. Rarely have been locked up by AF Storage NPC. Aparently SE too busy sitting on their asses to fix it.. Cheers.

  7. #47
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    I got good news. Come to Ffxichat during the long maintenance. It's a webcam chatroom for FFXI players on all servers. At least we can still chat while maintenance is going on. Hope to see you there.

  8. #48
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by Elesirdur
    Quote Originally Posted by nekura
    Quote Originally Posted by Soarian
    But, seriously... I think there's something wrong with Camp Ops. I've only had Resource procurement, Supply manufacture, and Vanguard Lv1 for a week or so now. If this isn't right, I hope it's addressed somehow.
    I've had a similar issue, for the past 9-10 days the only Campaign Ops available have been Stock and Awe and Material Storm. Other people I've talked to are saying that they have only been able to get one or two different ones for a while too. I also hope this isn't a normal thing and that it
    Same issue here, except I've had Escort the Moron and Buy a Log from the AH. Haven't bothered going back to the past yet in a couple of days because I'm not repeating those again.
    Have you had your rank assessed, or are you only being given those specific options for Ops and nothing else?
    I currently have the Ribbon ???. This seem to have started shortly before I got ??. The only Missions I have available are:

    Stock and Awe I -?
    Materiel Storm I -??
    Vanguard-X I -?
    Crystal Fist I -?
    Iron Anvil I -??

    I can report all of my Bastokan friends are having the same issue, and only have the above quests depending on their rank. All the options ebcame availible for my rank during the Campaign tally.

  9. #49
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    I can see it now:

    "An issue wherein players were having too much fun in campaign has been addressed. The difficulty of campaign has increased dramatically while rewards are greatly lowered to allieviate this problem."

  10. #50
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman
    I can see it now:

    "An issue wherein players were having too much fun in campaign has been addressed. The difficulty of campaign has increased dramatically while rewards are greatly lowered to allieviate this problem."
    Also, it has been brought to our attention that many players have been able to accumulate several merits in Campaign, this was unintended, and Limit Point rewards will be removed, as will all merits earned during Campaign. We apologize for actually making you think you could get merits at your leisure.

  11. #51
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mytiwar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eratosthenes
    Here's hoping they're gonna make Campaign notices appear in town.
    Too much faith in SE.
    Im pretty sure Campaign can already appear in town, however the proper chriteria have not been met.

    My assumption is that the homeland zone needs to be under beastmen control. Either that or the nation in question needs to currently own 0 other zones.. then the Beastmen will invade the city.

  12. #52
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by Korbei
    Quote Originally Posted by Mytiwar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eratosthenes
    Here's hoping they're gonna make Campaign notices appear in town.
    Too much faith in SE.
    Im pretty sure Campaign can already appear in town, however the proper chriteria have not been met.

    My assumption is that the homeland zone needs to be under beastmen control. Either that or the nation in question needs to currently own 0 other zones.. then the Beastmen will invade the city.
    I'm pretty sure he meant notices as in getting notification of campaign battles e.g. idle by the teleport NPC in town while waiting for the message "A Campaign battle has begun in Meriphataud Mountains!" instead of the customary spam /cmap every 10 seconds.

  13. #53
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe
    At the following time, we will be performing FINAL FANTASY XI maintenance on all worlds. During this period, FINAL FANTASY XI will be unavailable.

    Thank you for your patience.

    * The World Transfer Service will be unavailable starting 30 minutes before the maintenance. Return Home to Vana'diel Campaign will also become unavailable once the maintenance begins. Please wait until after the maintenance is completed before attempting to use these services.

    [Date & Time]
    Dec. 18, 2007 from 8:00 to 12:00 (PST)
    * Maintenance completion time may be subject to change.

    [Affected Services]
    FINAL FANTASY XI
    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnew ... 2248.shtml

    It's that time of the week again. :D

  14. #54
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Yea, I'm a PS2 player and Whitegate NPCs lock me up for insane amounts of time now (after WotG, never happened before). My Nyzule static sits at the zone waiting for me while I was the first one at the tag npc, not cool!

    As for Campaign, it's awesome and fun and all.. but yea.. NPC power should weaken or something when there are enough people there. I go to Bastok Campaign and engage a mob then Elivira (the rdm) pulls out her relic GUN (lol) and relic weaponskills my mob in the face for half its hp. It's nice when there are only a couple people there, but otherwise it's pretty frustrating.

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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    I guess this means Mass Effect time!

  16. #56
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by blister1
    For fuck seaks fix the Whitegate NPC's. I've literally gotten "locked" the last 10 times I've talked to Rytaal. After every run I go and refresh my tag and get shafted.
    Ps2 limitations

    But seriously this is the most annoying thing I have ever had to deal with since the Dead Zones of last year. I literally freeze about 50% of the time talking to NPCs in whitegate.

  17. #57
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Campaign ops (The offensive, defensive etc ones) Have quotas that get filled. When the quotas are reached, you can no longer select them.

    -Friend of mine + 2 others were going to flag a campaign op, I think pit spider. All 3 were in menu, one selected pit spider, got it. When they other 2 hit enter over pit spider, it told them the quota was filled. When they checked the menu again, it was gone.

    When do the quotas reset? No idea.

  18. #58
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyuneko
    NPCs need to stay strong, they are our only defense if no player goes to that zone, but the problem is that they all gather to one fort just like players do: you can get 5 waves of NPCs in W.Saruta for 1 wave of Yagudo BRDs, 2 waves of NPCs at Fort KN against another wave of Yagudo WHM, while citadel is endlessly being chewed on with no NPC or PC around to defend, which kinda... sucked. Another time, I was alone in Sauromogue holding 6 Yagudo NIN while the NM beat on the fort, the NPC came 45 minutes later, 5 minutes or so after other players arrived, which was kinda... unfun. They just need to fix the NPC spawning condition or something...
    The fix for NPC spawning conditions is very simple.
    1. A campaign battle begins. There are always 3-6 npcs present at the beginning.
    2. For every 10-20 points of dmg done to the fortifications, a full wave of NPCs warp in as reinforcements.

    What does this do? The following:
    * IF there are lots of PCs initially, you (probably) don't need npcs for the battle. This way, you only have a small vanguard of npcs to work around. They don't do much damage and don't impact your xp/notes. No damage is done to the fortifications, so no other waves warp in. You don't have to fight the mobs way far away from the fortifications to avoid the npcs.
    * IF you start with few PCs but people eventually show up, you May need a wave or two of npcs depending on how many mobs show up, and how long it takes for other PCs to arrive. It also gives you some help to hold the attention of the mobs until help shows up.
    * IF you start with no PCs whatsoever, you definitely need npcs, the initial vanguard gets owned, and then as many waves as necessary of defensive npcs are called in.

    Not only does this solve the problems of too many npcs, too few npcs, and ridiculous waits for npcs, but it also is FUCKING REALISTIC. Having a small scout/defense force at each fortification to call for reinforcements just makes sense. Yes it's a fantasy game and all, but when you can be realistic AND help the game be more fun, then by god please do it.

  19. #59
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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    Realistic + FFXI = you haven't been paying much attention these past 4 years.

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    Re: All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 18)

    At the following time, we performed a version update of FINAL FANTASY XI.

    * This update consists of a version upgrade of the client program (both "Windows" and Xbox 360 versions will not be updated). When you press the play button after the time stated below, the version upgrade will begin automatically. Please follow the instructions on the screen.

    [Affected Period]
    Dec. 18, 2007 1:00 (PST)

    [Affected Services]
    FINAL FANTASY XI

    [Important Update Details]
    - An issue where some players were unable to make progress in the Aht Urhgan Mission "Foiled Ambition" has been addressed. (PlayStation(R) 2 only)
    ps2 limitations

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