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  1. #21
    Ridill
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    yeah, i'm trying to figure out a way to remove those signatures.

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    I'm usually not big on online petitions as well, but this one was very eloquently written and it proposed solutions instead of just whining about the problems. Furthermore, I would believe those solutions should be quite possible for Playonline and SE to implement. I give you a lot of credit for taking your time to think this out and write the petition very well.

    Really, SE's policy has handcuffed us all. We don't have too many options to try to offer our ideas on policy changes or recover from such horrible incidents like the recent hackings. Hopefully a just a couple people at SE will read this and try to help us out here.

  3. #23
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    I think that the suggestion form that SE has created shows they want to listen, and this is a good idea. I wouldn't doubt we see a major change in policy soon. I applaud those that have worked hard for change.

  4. #24
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    thanks for the compliments.

    i've deleted the joke signatures, but i missed any, please let me know.

    i'm gonna be busy next couple days (haven't really done any christmas shopping), but if there are any other suggestions on things we could do, let me know too!

  5. #25
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    Quote Originally Posted by Gere
    Quote Originally Posted by Pergo
    but i've seen alot of online petitions, and i've yet to see anything come from them.
    The one to get mother3 released worked (kinda).
    Rockman and Forte was ported to GBA in English thanks to a petition.

    Still, good luck.

  6. #26
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    more joke signatures found, at least on the last page, probably more since you proofread it.

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    signed. anyway to put a JP translation after it or something? I assume a large player base speaks japanese only and not english, so this is sort of alienating a large portion of possible petitioners

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    been a bit busy lately, but yeah a japanese translation would be great if anyone could do it.

    i believe there's a couple popular bbs's we could spread it to as well.

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    Thank you Kisada for putting your time and effort into creating this petition.I'm sure it's very time consuming with having to edit out peoples vandalism of the petition.Keep up the great work I hope it pays off for all of us.

  10. #30
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    Quote Originally Posted by Anadosia
    Thank you Kisada for putting your time and effort into creating this petition.I'm sure it's very time consuming with having to edit out peoples vandalism of the petition.Keep up the great work I hope it pays off for all of us.
    seconded ^^;

  11. #31
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    Quote Originally Posted by kisada
    been a bit busy lately, but yeah a japanese translation would be great if anyone could do it.

    i believe there's a couple popular bbs's we could spread it to as well.
    If Elmer's around, he'd probably be willing to translate it - obviously I can't speak for him, but if he doesn't, he's mean! (Yeah, guilt. Hah.)

    Seriously though, thanks for the hard work Kisada. I hope it pays off.

  12. #32
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    Thanks for link to BBB, i finally managed to make a complain on SE after all these years. Back in 2005 when the special task force started, they decided to mass ban all japanese accounts that shares the same address.

    For asian players outside japan playing on japanese accounts, because the registration of the account on POL requires a japan address, Shops that sold the game issued the same japan address to their customers so that they could register the game. However SE decide to mass ban all these accounts overnight because they assume all acounts that share the same address are RMT. Many asian players got banned overnight without warning. And later they traced the same credit card info to players who also owned NA and EU accounts.

    This policy is retarded.

  13. #33
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    Quote Originally Posted by techun
    Thanks for link to BBB, i finally managed to make a complain on SE after all these years. Back in 2005 when the special task force started, they decided to mass ban all japanese accounts that shares the same address.

    For asian players outside japan playing on japanese accounts, because the registration of the account on POL requires a japan address, Shops that sold the game issued the same japan address to their customers so that they could register the game. However SE decide to mass ban all these accounts overnight because they assume all acounts that share the same address are RMT. Many asian players got banned overnight without warning. And later they traced the same credit card info to players who also owned NA and EU accounts.

    This policy is retarded.
    They didn't ban all of us that used the fake Japanese address that was posted in the registration guide on FFXIOnline.com back in 2002. I kind of wish that guide wasn't taken down because now I don't know how to type the address I used. JonnyRam also never responded to my submission to his old Ramnix site for providing a real address to people that imported and have Japanese accounts. Keeps me afraid since my bank has been suspending my sister's credit card every time she goes out of state and uses it, and they've asked me about certain charges on my card (they though me using my card daily at work for lunch was fraudulent activity). I don't want to be hit with a sudden billing problem and suddly lose my account because I can't get the physical bill to pay.

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    No updates on this thread in a few days, but I wanted to say Thank You for your efforts. Still crossing my fingers to make sure those stolen accounts are returned but it looks promising. Thanks so much for giving us all a place to unite for change.

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    Did you E-mail and Mail the petition to SE yet?

    I just read this post on KI. I hope it is true.
    The OP said that SE's customer service has recently made some changes.
    Anyone that had their accounts hacked can call into the customer service to freeze their account after providing all your informations.

    http://killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=166112

    http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...;num=20;page=1

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    <-#1758 on the petition =)

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    I have some suggestions for grammatical changes if the OP is open for modifications to the petition :ashira:

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    has this been sent to SE yet?

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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    I'm pretty sure that SE has gotten the message.

    Whether fully or in part due to the petition, thx Kisada for doing this.

  20. #40
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    Re: Final draft of petition for changes in POL policy: live

    Manage to have some time to myself. Partial credit to babblefish (20%) since I had to fix and rewrite most of the sentence and to the in-accuracy of the translation.

    gah my eyes hurt but here you go.

    To: Square-Enix, Inc.
    ?????????
    12?11?2007????????????????ffxi.somepage.com??????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????

    ???????????????????
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????
    ???Playonline ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????
    ??????????????????????????????????????????
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????
    ???????????????????????????????????????????


    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????

    ??????Playonline ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????3 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????
    ??????????????????????????????????“??????????” ???“????????????????????”????????????????????? ????????????
    ??????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????snubbed ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????
    ????????????????
    ?????????? ????????: ???????????????????????sublicense ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?(???????????????????????????????) ????????????????????

    ??????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????
    ?????????????? ????????????????????????????Enix ??????????????????? ???????????????????????????????

    ??: ???????????
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????

    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????
    ???? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????2 ????????????????????????: ?????????????
    ?????????? ????????????????????MMORPG ????????
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????

    ????????????????????????????????????????????tenabl e ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????

    ??????????
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????? ?????10?????????Windows??????????????????????????? ??????????
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????
    ??????????????? ?????RMT ???????? ?????????????????????????????????????Playonline ????????????????????anti-RMT ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????
    .

    ?????????????Playonline ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????XI ?????????????????????????????????????FFXI ??????????????????????????????????????????????FFXI ?????we?e ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????
    Playonline ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????they?e ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????

    ???
    ???????????

    Hope this helps. I double checked for the most part.

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