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  • Ares Cuirass

    117 65.73%
  • Valor Surcoat

    61 34.27%
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  1. #1
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    Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    For PLD/NIN tanking, which do you think is the better option?

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Valor Surcoat = Gjallarhorn/Cover
    Ares Cuirass = Any other time

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    shit is situational.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Hydra Haubert.
    edit: valor surcoat <3

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Well you can really never have too much MP, I don't see what difference a gjallarhorn makes. You could make a Cure IV HP macro and spam endless Cure IVs on yourself that Gjallarhorn couldn't even keep up with. I'm just wondering if there's a way to figure out which would produce more hate over time, 1/tick refresh or 4 enmity?

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    I like to disappear.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Well if you got the whole HP macro going on, I don't see why you are asking this question. More refresh will benefit you far greater than 4 enmity will if you are into the whole HP macro thing.

    But again, you don't really need the macro after you hit CE cap at which time I would wear Valor Surcoat just so you could hit the cap faster after you take damage.

    Another thing you can think about doing is macroing Valor Surcoat into Flash and Cures and have the macro revert to Ares Cuirass after the cast. But then again you'd probably never see your character if you did that, piss some mages off.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Obviously the correct answer is to keep switching between the two blinking in and out in an effort to prevent your mages from landing Cures on you, making the Refresh from Ares' body more worthwhile.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Ares' Cuirass.

    I love it.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    When a mob is initially claimed I wear my haute/turban and I plan on wearing my ares body too, the second we start in on it, around 90% or so I switch to macua and bahamut's mask, I imagine I'll be going from ares to valor body too.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    Obviously the correct answer is to keep switching between the two blinking in and out in an effort to prevent your mages from landing Cures on you, making the Refresh from Ares' body more worthwhile.
    That's what Panazawa what's his face do. During last KB, he was just blink in and out between valor and ares.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill
    I like to disappear.
    I'll just make another note here. If your mages can't handle making macros for you because you're playing the game better than shitty people, get new mages.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    Obviously the correct answer is to keep switching between the two blinking in and out in an effort to prevent your mages from landing Cures on you, making the Refresh from Ares' body more worthwhile.
    This is the right answer.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill
    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill
    I like to disappear.
    I'll just make another note here. If your mages can't handle making macros for you because you're playing the game better than shitty people, get new mages.
    Fuck making a macro t('-'

    Just swap intelligently, and don't do it if you're dying.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    Obviously the correct answer is to keep switching between the two blinking in and out in an effort to prevent your mages from landing Cures on you, making the Refresh from Ares' body more worthwhile.
    This is the right answer.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    shit is situational.
    Tooooo many times where Valor Surcoat turns in MP-meditate with cover, and too many times where you'll be fighting things where it can't.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill
    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill
    I like to disappear.
    I'll just make another note here. If your mages can't handle making macros for you because you're playing the game better than shitty people, get new mages.
    Making macros to swap gear doesn't make you better, it just means that you can make macros to swap gear. Some places demand more macro swaps than others. The corollary of your statement is also true: If you die because you switch gear and your mages can't cure you, then you are playing the game worse.

    Shit is situational, adapt to the situation.

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    If you're in a LS long enough, and your mages don't switch around their cure V panic button, paralyna / etc macros with tank names (in our cases its all of what, 4? regular tanks) and you die to blinking chances are you're trying hard and they're lazy.

    We have a few good whm who always keep names in macro, just edit them right before the pull of every fight, takes 30 seconds and it's made of win.

    Don't you want to be made of win? Don't you?

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    If you're in a LS long enough, and your mages don't switch around their cure V panic button, paralyna / etc macros with tank names (in our cases its all of what, 4? regular tanks) and you die to blinking chances are you're trying hard and they're lazy.

    We have a few good whm who always keep names in macro, just edit them right before the pull of every fight, takes 30 seconds and it's made of win.

    Don't you want to be made of win? Don't you?

    Hence why I love being married to a 75 whm <3

    Feel bad for the other tanks because she is kind of one sides on who she wants to keep alive..

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    Re: Ares Cuirass vs Valor Surcoat

    all our mages have a cure V macro set for one person, and he doesnt play palidin that much, he's our relic gkt sam and has a name a mile long Dragonlionking



    joke in our ls

    /ma "Cure V" Dragonliofuckhe'sdead

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